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Origyptian Wrote:
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> DUNE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Damage to the GG walls and the so called Great
> > Step.
> >
> > As previously said i believe the GG was
> designed
> > to facilitate the movement of stones and other
> > ancillary equipment in the construction of the
> > pyramid , therefore the damaged and other
> markings
> > to the walls are consistent with some sort of
> > machinery operating throughout its length,
> breadth
> > and height .
> > You would also get the odd accident, as any
> > building site does, so could the great step be
> the
> > product of one of those accidents.
> > There are three possible scenarios for the
> damage
> > to the great step.
> > 1. it was a genuine accident where they dropped
> a
> > block from above during construction.
> > 2 it was damaged when whoever opened up that
> > passage to the RC, and let a lump of masonry
> fall
> > onto the step.
> > 3 it was purposely hacked out for some other
> > reason.
> >
> > In view of how the forced entrance into the
> RC's
> > lines up directly over the great step i favour
> > that scenario.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Hi DUNE, I am under the impression that those four
> hollow black arrows in the photo are pointing to
> cement repairs made to seal the holes that
> originally held iron bars that served to support a
> scaffold or ladder assembly for ascending to that
> portal to the RCs at the top of the GG.

Hi Ori

Yes thats a good point, i was thinking they had something to do with the guys who originally hacked out the hole, but of course you may be right that they could have imbedded iron bar supports for a fixed ladder in modern times.
>

> Regarding your point #1, I agree it's possible
> that a large block dropped from a distance might
> be able to cause that kind of damage on the Great
> Step. It's an amazing coincidence that it happened
> to hit the center edge of the Great Step. I'm
> wondering how likely it is that the builders
> wouldn't have tried to smooth it out and/or repair
> it with other smaller block patches in the middle
> of that construction process.

Well , it then implies that this damage was done after all the work was completed , in that no one of any consequence cared about making repairs to the step, it then further suggests the people who broke into the RC were your proverbial Tomb Robbers ,
and like you say , why did they start over that side , only for them to swing right to find the chamber,it therefore supports my 2nd point that a large chunk from above was the cause of the damage, as for the specific shape of the steps damage, granite can shatter in all sorts of different ways , so i would not read to much in how it looked, and don't forget , in the 100's of years that its been open to who knows who,and who knows what amount of chips have been hacked off for souvenir hunters , as we can see how the KC sarcophagus has ended up.


It's equally
> puzzling why the builders wouldn't have covered
> that permanent surface with a protective surface
> during construction. After all, it's not like the
> Great Step was "hidden" like the blocks in the
> RCs, where no humans were thought to ever pass
> through. If anything, the traditional scenario has
> the Great Step in a position of prime real estate
> within the funerary paradigm, and so you'd think
> the builders would have taken steps to protect
> that particular surface just as we'd expect the
> threshold at any grand entrance to be protected
> when moving large, potentially damaging objects
> across it.
>
As i say, i think the damage was done after the pyramid was finished.


> Regarding your point #2, how might such a stone
> have been yanked out of that socket leading to the
> RCs? I am not aware of any chisel marks on the
> surrounding blocks up there that would reveal a
> surface on that block that could be levered out of
> that socket just as we do see such chiseling
> around the other portals to various chambers and
> passages such as leading to the SC, the portal in
> the center of the QC Niche, the entrance to the
> Antechamber from the Great Step, and the south
> wall of the Antechamber leading to the KC. How
> could such a large stone at the top of the GG be
> grabbed and pullled out after it had been
> installed into place and sealed there by the force
> of the blocks above that impinge down on it? If
> the block, itself, was chiseled from the vantage
> point of a makeshift scaffolding or ladder, the
> pieces would be too small to cause such punctate
> damage on the Step.

Well their known method of splitting rock is to drive a wedge into the rock , they may have chisel'd out a channel around the edge and then banged in some wedges on one edge and split of a big chunk, better that way than endless chipping away at it, so a chunk of rock about 16" square would impart quite a force by the time it hit that granite from right up there.



When do you suppose that
> entrance to the RCs was created? For that matter,
> why not just remove the block on the south wall
> that leads directly to the RC rather than remove a
> block on the east wall thereby requiring an
> awkward immediate right turn to be chiseled into
> the masonry?
>
Yea , as i said, probably tomb robbers at a later time, maybe they just got confused with their direction, wasn't their first route the same direction as the Antechamber ?, maybe they forgot the KC was off to the right at the end of that passage ?


> Regarding your point #3, I think that is the most
> likely of your 3 scenarios. I don't think the
> traditional notion that it is simply wear and tear
> from early-day tourists makes any sense. Anyone
> who climbed up the GG clearly would have
> recognized the far easier path was to first step
> onto one of the side benches and then step onto
> the Great Step from the side rather than directly
> onto the center of the Step from the GG floor.
> This point was made very clearly by Morton Edgar.
> Rather, I also don't think that pattern of damage
> is due to ropes during construction. It's too
> erratic and assymetric and not of the organized,
> pre-planned style that represents the quality of
> work done by the original buildres. I think it's
> more likely that the gouge in the Great Step was
> was hacked out by pillagers, possibly during the
> process of removing large and heavy valuable
> materials and/or objects they found in the
> Antechamber and KC.


Surely if there was something so big in the Kings chamber that they wanted to remove, and it required them to enlarged the opening, why do we find the entrance into the Kings chamber untouched ?


DPP

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Re: Pyramid Construction 906 DUNE 16-Dec-16 12:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 789 DUNE 16-Dec-16 14:10
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Re: Block Construction 795 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 894 loveritas 11-Dec-16 22:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 856 DScribr 11-Dec-16 23:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 803 loveritas 12-Dec-16 01:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 864 DScribr 12-Dec-16 14:31
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Re: More Sand 798 DUNE 16-Dec-16 15:38
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Re: More Sand 893 DUNE 16-Dec-16 17:15
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Re: More Sand 761 DUNE 16-Dec-16 20:04
Re: More Sand 845 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 17:01
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Chisel Marks Suggest..... 810 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:20
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 827 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:41
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 753 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:49
Re: More Sand 758 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:17
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Popular Posters 965 loveritas 14-Dec-16 10:57
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Re: Popular Posters 788 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:18
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Re: More Sand 842 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:16
Re: More Sand 762 Audrey 14-Dec-16 03:31
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Re: GOT brains??? 919 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:16
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Re: Pyramid Construction 1115 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:29
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Re: Pyramid Construction 796 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:27
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Re: Houdin's most critical error 774 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 21:07
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Re: Where are the Taxonomies? 768 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:33
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 700 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 16:26
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Re: In A Cemetery 777 DScribr 18-Dec-16 22:59
Re: In A Cemetery 719 cladking 19-Dec-16 00:52
Re: In A Cemetery 770 DScribr 19-Dec-16 01:32
Re: In A Cemetery 664 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:52
Re: In A Cemetery 779 DScribr 19-Dec-16 03:54
Re: In A Cemetery 815 Thanos5150 19-Dec-16 04:44
Re: In A Cemetery 707 M. J. Thomas 19-Dec-16 17:53
Re: In A Cemetery 701 cladking 19-Dec-16 17:59
Re: In A Cemetery 715 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 18:13
Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 751 DScribr 20-Dec-16 03:50
Re: Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 719 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:34
Re: In A Cemetery 737 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:23
Re: In A Cemetery 712 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:28
Re: In A Cemetery 695 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:52
Re: In A Cemetery 664 Corpuscles 20-Dec-16 11:58
Re: In A Cemetery 659 DUNE 20-Dec-16 15:06
Re: In A Cemetery 851 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:42
Re: In A Cemetery 738 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:49
Re: In A Cemetery 692 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 16:31
Re: In A Cemetery 633 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 16:49
Re: In A Cemetery 692 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:11
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Re: In A Cemetery 682 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 20:51
Re: In A Cemetery 712 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:56
Re: In A Cemetery 763 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:09
Re: In A Cemetery 676 Warwick 20-Dec-16 21:15
Re: In A Cemetery 682 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:42
Re: In A Cemetery 662 Warwick 21-Dec-16 23:01
Re: In A Cemetery 740 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:28
Re: In A Cemetery 678 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:07
Re: Why was the Egyptologist so depressed? 718 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:58
He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 673 cladking 21-Dec-16 20:27
Re: He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 578 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:35
Re: In A Cemetery 749 Thanos5150 20-Dec-16 21:44
Re: In A Cemetery 617 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:13
Re: In A Cemetery 760 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 00:02
Re: In A Cemetery 756 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 01:24
Re: In A Cemetery 861 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 01:55
Re: In A Cemetery 765 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:52
Enough et als to build a pyramid. 728 cladking 21-Dec-16 03:06
Re: In A Cemetery 744 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 03:15
Re: In A Cemetery 722 Audrey 21-Dec-16 04:50
Re: In A Cemetery 755 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:02
sidebar 817 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:16
Re: In A Cemetery 877 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:01
Re: In A Cemetery 918 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 07:16
Re: In A Cemetery 716 Corpuscles 21-Dec-16 12:00
Re: In A Cemetery 630 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 13:39
Re: In A Cemetery 669 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 13:54
Re: In A Cemetery 876 DUNE 21-Dec-16 15:55
Re: In A Cemetery 827 Thunderbird 21-Dec-16 17:48
Re: In A Cemetery 719 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 22:33
Re: In A Cemetery 859 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 22:02
Re: In A Cemetery 685 Warwick 21-Dec-16 22:11
Re: In A Cemetery 736 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:49
Re: In A Cemetery 787 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 06:02
Re: In A Cemetery 741 cladking 21-Dec-16 14:44
Re: In A Cemetery 506 Steve Clayton 30-Mar-18 20:42
Re: In A Cemetery 647 DScribr 19-Dec-16 23:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 776 Sirius7237 14-Dec-16 23:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 858 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 712 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 03:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 871 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 04:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 809 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 13:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 844 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 15:35
Animal Fat for Lube?!? 800 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:48
Re: Animal Fat for Lube?!? 768 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 17:26
Re: Animal Fat reduces Friction-That's A Fact! 773 DScribr 15-Dec-16 20:13
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 742 Sirius7237 17-Dec-16 22:09
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 756 Steve Clayton 19-Dec-16 02:03
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 911 Sirius7237 19-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 721 Steve Clayton 20-Dec-16 17:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 612 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 708 Steve Clayton 21-Dec-16 18:04
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Re: Pyramid Construction 738 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 746 cladking 12-Dec-16 15:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 770 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:18
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Re: Pyramid Construction 833 cladking 12-Dec-16 02:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 728 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:26
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Re: G3 Exposed 721 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:40
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Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 777 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:38
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 1147 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:00
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Re: Pyramid Construction 709 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 708 DScribr 12-Dec-16 17:28
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Re: Pyramid Construction 759 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 711 cladking 13-Dec-16 20:29
NO 714 Warwick 13-Dec-16 21:54
Re: Pyramid Construction 744 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 747 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 869 cladking 14-Dec-16 18:52
While Egyptology fiddles... 703 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:32
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 804 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 700 cladking 16-Dec-16 20:22
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 750 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 759 cladking 16-Dec-16 23:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 821 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:45
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Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction-Webster's is not...... 783 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:36
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Re: Pyramid Construction 751 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:40
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Re: Pyramid Construction 706 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:39
Re: Pyramid Construction 801 cladking 15-Dec-16 01:48
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NONE 604 DScribr 16-Dec-16 22:59
Re: correction 706 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:53
Re: 21st Century Westerner v 4th Dyn. Ancient Egyptian 780 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 23:28
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Re: correction 826 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 16:49
Re: correction 677 cladking 24-Dec-16 17:24
Re: correction 663 Thanos5150 24-Dec-16 16:52
Re: correction 711 Origyptian 24-Dec-16 18:12
Re: correction 723 Martin Stower 24-Dec-16 23:42
Re: correction 956 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 00:51
Re: correction 704 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 01:03
Re: correction 811 DUNE 27-Dec-16 18:09
Re: correction 800 DUNE 30-Dec-16 21:16
Re: correction 778 Thanos5150 30-Dec-16 23:58
Re: correction 905 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-16 07:38
Re: correction 665 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 14:44
Re: correction 684 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 20:39
Re: correction 677 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 22:02
Re: correction 653 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 21:42
Re: correction 669 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:24
Re: correction 798 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:38
Re: correction 674 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 23:00
Re: correction 867 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 23:32
Re: correction 706 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 00:46
Re: correction 710 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 05:28
Re: correction 657 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 06:02
Re: correction 625 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:31
Re: correction 639 Audrey 17-Dec-16 07:07
Re: correction 737 DUNE 17-Dec-16 11:16
Re: correction 828 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:39
Re: correction 727 DUNE 17-Dec-16 16:48
Re: correction 725 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 17:00
Block Removal 762 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:25
Re: correction 740 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 12:36
Re: correction 669 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 15:08
Re: correction 769 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 13:56
Egypto-illogic. 639 cladking 17-Dec-16 15:32
Re: Egypto-illogic. 653 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 16:41
Ori-illogic. 726 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:12
Re: Egypto-illogic. 675 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:38
Got Shovels? 677 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:30
Reality-what a concept 763 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:09
Re: correction 581 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 18:26
Re: correction 701 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 19:14
Re: correction 674 cladking 17-Dec-16 19:37
Re: correction 646 Audrey 17-Dec-16 20:14
Modern Gods! 615 cladking 17-Dec-16 20:55
Re: correction 695 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 22:27
Birds Of A Feather 698 DScribr 17-Dec-16 22:30
Re: correction 643 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 00:37
Re: correction 697 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:35
Re: correction 636 Thanos5150 18-Dec-16 02:29
Re: correction 630 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:21
Re: correction 732 cladking 18-Dec-16 02:03
Re: correction 517 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:45
Re: correction 708 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:28
Re: correction 734 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:50
Re: correction 685 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:45
"We" have no objective reason to believe..... 763 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 623 cladking 17-Dec-16 14:51
Post o' the week! 672 DScribr 17-Dec-16 16:04
Re: Post o' the week! 662 cladking 17-Dec-16 16:11
Same Old Logic 750 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:00
Re: correction 693 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:33
Re: correction 884 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 05:43
Not cropped, 'enhanced.' 752 DScribr 17-Dec-16 02:10
Re: correction 727 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:45
Re: correction 588 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:40
Re: correction 706 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:28
Re: correction 618 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:37
Re: correction 981 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:08
Re: correction 693 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:47
Ducks in a barrel 703 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:50
Re: Ducks in a barrel 728 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:15
Re: Ducks in a barrel 844 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:15
Re: correction 741 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 01:14
Re: correction 714 Audrey 21-Dec-16 01:54
Good Grief!!! 716 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:32
Re: Good Grief!!! 722 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 23:04
Clueless 782 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 23:24
Re: Clueless 692 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:08
Re: Good Grief!!! 843 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 821 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 754 cladking 15-Dec-16 04:00
The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 781 DScribr 15-Dec-16 04:54
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 742 cladking 15-Dec-16 05:15
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 755 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:22
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 661 cladking 15-Dec-16 17:08
thank you for the opportunity 732 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 767 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:31
It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 740 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:03
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 764 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:32
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 753 cladking 12-Dec-16 22:58
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 808 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 00:09
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 746 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 784 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 819 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 19:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 696 DocKnowles 18-Dec-16 09:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 647 Thanos5150 02-Mar-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 486 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 566 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 17:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 648 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 488 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 01:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 564 Audrey 03-Mar-18 03:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 552 cladking 03-Mar-18 04:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 617 Audrey 03-Mar-18 07:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 520 cladking 03-Mar-18 14:44
Re: Pyramid Construction 485 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 495 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 476 Audrey 05-Mar-18 00:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 467 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 489 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 03:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 575 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 13:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 501 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 503 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 510 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 21:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 579 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 516 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 17:11
Re: Pyramid Construction 501 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 17:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 472 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 493 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 22:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 482 Audrey 03-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 473 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 488 Audrey 04-Mar-18 22:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 585 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:50
Re: Pyramid Construction 499 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 504 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 21:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 550 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 23:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 455 Thanos5150 04-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 509 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 513 DUNE 04-Mar-18 22:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 478 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 02:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 530 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 521 cladking 05-Mar-18 05:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 554 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 02:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 520 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 500 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 569 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 18:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 531 Warwick 06-Mar-18 00:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 494 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 04:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 529 Warwick 06-Mar-18 04:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 551 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 14:33
Riposte 665 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:27
Re: Riposte 571 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 16:37
Re: Riposte 474 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:54
Re: Riposte 561 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:15
Re: Riposte 502 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:18
Re: Riposte 464 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 19:30
coup de grace 516 Warwick 06-Mar-18 20:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 517 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 17:37
Re: Pyramid Construction 469 cladking 04-Mar-18 17:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 532 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 18:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 486 DUNE 04-Mar-18 19:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 492 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 500 cladking 04-Mar-18 21:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 556 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 20:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 527 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 497 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 21:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 539 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 515 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 02:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 552 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 540 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 23:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 531 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 489 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 540 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 527 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-18 19:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 543 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 19:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 489 cladking 05-Mar-18 20:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 497 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:14
Re: Pyramid Construction 642 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 483 cladking 06-Mar-18 19:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 514 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 21:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 460 cladking 06-Mar-18 22:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 502 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 535 Corpuscles 07-Mar-18 00:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 561 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 02:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 495 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 527 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 517 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-18 00:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 515 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 520 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 631 Origyptian 11-Mar-18 14:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 594 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 22:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 508 Jon Ellison 25-Mar-18 22:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 534 Barbelo 25-Mar-18 22:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 538 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 601 Barbelo 26-Mar-18 03:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 573 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 04:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 516 Barbelo 27-Mar-18 10:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 552 Origyptian 27-Mar-18 15:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 544 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 22:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 511 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 546 cladking 28-Mar-18 00:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 495 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 469 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 529 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 535 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 13:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 467 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-18 17:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 472 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Dashur Ancient Harbor 565 Thunderbird 28-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 584 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 555 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 21:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 517 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 00:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 509 Origyptian 29-Mar-18 05:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 536 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 16:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 608 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 14:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 599 Thanos5150 30-Mar-18 16:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 455 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 484 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 17:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 492 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 552 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 538 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:01
Where Are The Palaces? 489 Barbelo 31-Mar-18 00:26
Re: Where Are The Palaces? 498 Origyptian 31-Mar-18 04:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 513 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 04:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 506 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 537 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 641 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 640 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 490 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 15:55
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 513 Thunderbird 05-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 520 Eddie Larry 05-Apr-18 21:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 600 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 22:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 672 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 04:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 499 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 12:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 475 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 494 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 18:21
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 519 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 19:01
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 567 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 19:12
Archaeology vs Archaeology 491 Barbelo 06-Apr-18 20:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 490 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 21:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 573 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-18 23:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 550 Thanos5150 03-Apr-18 17:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 520 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-18 00:39
Constructors’ Physique Assumption 505 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Apr-18 19:08
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 529 Origyptian 04-Apr-18 01:54
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 520 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Apr-18 14:24
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 594 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-18 23:21
Means & Methods Assumptions 513 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-18 15:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 603 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 21:13
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 501 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:45
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 480 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:01
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 573 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 479 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 486 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 19:34
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 505 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 03:48
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 560 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 05:53
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 452 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 481 Thanos5150 07-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 476 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 23:32
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 486 Thanos5150 08-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 451 Steve Clayton 08-Apr-18 02:57
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 521 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:58
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 446 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:07
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 488