Mysteries :  The Official GrahamHancock.com forums
For serious discussion of the controversies, approaches and enigmas surrounding the origins and development of the human species and of human civilization. (NB: for more ‘out there’ posts we point you in the direction of the ‘Paranormal & Supernatural’ Message Board). 
Welcome! Log InRegister
Over the years many have proposed various methods to explain how the Great Pyramid was built, yet as a rule such proponents ignore the fact all the pyramids of Egypt, if not the world, also require the same explanation. As amazing as the details of G1 may be, it still follows the same general construction principles as the rest therefore whatever method is devised to explain G1 must apply to all. Which of course they never do.

What we can see without exception in Egypt from exposed pyramids, whether the finished product was smooth sided or not, the principle structures are stepped built around a central "tower shaped" multi-stage (stepped) core.








To look back at the queen's pyramids at Giza we can see they were finished as true pyramids with casing stones still seen at the base:

LARGE PHOTO

In which we can see the very stages of completion right before our eyes:


They are not built in horizontal courses, but rather around a staged core structure built first in which vertical rows, "accretion layers", are added vertically in horizontal rows layer by layer around the core like so:

Applied to G1:

[*** (added) see reply titled "accretion layers"-If not clear, picture for display purposes only and not to be taken literally]

Visible accretion layer, Djoser's Saqqara pyramid:


What we see is that before, during, and after the construction of the great pyramids, G1 included, that with every exposed pyramid we see the same basic stepped tower core construction method which there is no reason to expect the great pyramids, including G1, to be any different. What this means is that the core facing blocks are not stacked in horizontal courses deck by deck until you get to the top, but rather vertically in rows around a multi-stage inner tower core with the final outer core laid horizontally.

Further to consider about G1 and G2, as was Abu Roash, is that they were built by incorporating a preexisting natural outcrop core. For perspective, we can see this exposed at Abu Roash:

The interior was also of course cut from this outcrop, not "built":


Estimates suggest that 40% of the original volume of the Abu Roash structure was a natural outcrop. By comparison G1 is conservatively estimated, based on it's visible parts, to have been at least 40ft high comprising 23% of its total volume.https://halshs.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-00319586/document The natural core of G2 is estimated to occupy 11.5% of its total volume. According to this source:
Quote

These results are deduced from direct observation and should be regarded as minimum values. For the great pyramids [G1/G2], we propose a model postulating larger volumes and heights of approximately 20m [65ft].

The point is that when considering construction methods and sequences for G1 (and G2) what needs to be taken into account is that at least 23% of the volume was already there which is a number based on the total volume of the pyramid. If we accept the natural outcrop to have been 65ft high this would actually be a much higher percentage of the volume up to that height, probably at least 50%(?).

It is also interesting to note, which may have been what the authors of the source linked above had in mind, is that not only does the Queen's chamber and passage sit right at 65ft (20m) i.e. at the top of the proposed height of the outcrop:

LARGER

But also the beginning of the Grand Gallery which has further been proposed by some, which I believe has merit, to function as a ramp system for transport of the large stones of the King's and Relieving Chambers:


Top of well shaft as seen from bottom of GG:


To consider all that has been said:
1) The majority of the base of G1, its greatest volume to this height, was already there in the form of the natural outcrop. This outcrop would have already been roughly the shape of a truncated pyramid and shaped further, of note being the 65ft high deck in which all the upper chambers and GG are built directly on top of. Considering the greatest volume of a pyramid is located at its base, the preexisting outcrop would have reduced the amount of labor and stone required considerably. Probably the reason this site was chosen in the first place.

2) The outcrop would have acted as a preexisting staged core which just like all the other pyramids the outer core layers would have been added later in vertically layers and not horizontally course by course (deck by deck). This further dispels the notion proposed by some, if needed, that the casing stones were laid first and the core built behind them.

3) The 65ft course would have been the construction deck for completing the upper chamber system in which after the completion of the QC, the area above it was built up and the Grand Gallery was constructed as a ramp and pulley system to move the stones of the KC, and RC. Previously I proposed a rough model of the order of construction like this with each color representing different phases:

(I would modify it somewhat at this point to factor in the outcrop among other things, but you get the idea.)

The blocks of the 35th course are notably larger in size than the other courses (with the exception of the base) which is located directly above the apex of the QC roof:

It stands to reason this had something to do with the creation of the foundation level set on top of the outcrop to ensure stability for the upper chambers and ramp system of the GG.

4) I know this drawing really really sucks so use your imagination and don't take it literally, but I propose a reverse inclined ramp which utilizes a series of shaduf cranes positioned on steps on each end:


Blocks are brought to one end on a sled and lifted by a shaduf step by step until it reaches the deck of the ramp. It is then slid slightly downhill along oiled skids using gravity as mechanical advantage until it reaches the other end. From there it is lifted again using a series of shadufs positioned on steps which terminates on the 65ft deck which at that point the lifting is handed off to the GG. This system is used for as long as possible utilizing the raising of the deck in increments as staging areas for each rising course. The upper chambers are completed and the GG roof is added which at this point another multi-staged staged tower is built around these finished structures and the rest of the pyramid is completed using the accretion layer (vertical row) process.

The use of a shaduf stepped system greatly reduces the length and size of the ramp and using an inverted incline uses the help of gravity along its greatest length of travel further reducing labor and time. The use of counter weights on the shadufs, namely the people pulling the ropes to lift it, greatly reduces the effort to lift the blocks and also further moves the blocks in distance obviously both vertically and horizontally.

In conclusion, some of you will read this and ignore what is said and only focus on the minutia that does not conform to your pet theories and pedantically argue accordingly. Do yourself and the rest of us a favor and save it. The point is that when thinking of theories of how G1 was constructed, how all of the pyramids were built must be considered, not only as it applies to them all, meaning whatever system is used must also apply to the rest, but also how what we see in these other pyramids applies to G1. Regardless of how amazing G1 is, it did not fall out of the sky and belongs to a greater whole that must equally be accounted for.



Edited 25 time(s). Last edit at 03-Mar-20 16:02 by Thanos5150.

Options: ReplyQuote


Subject Views Written By Posted
Pyramid Construction 8002 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 06:05
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 1172 M. J. Thomas 11-Dec-16 11:10
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 1064 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 990 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 959 Jon Ellison 11-Dec-16 12:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 967 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 929 DScribr 11-Dec-16 14:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 899 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 18:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 878 Lee McGiffen 16-Dec-16 10:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 955 DUNE 16-Dec-16 12:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 797 DUNE 16-Dec-16 14:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 926 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 810 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 920 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 847 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 850 sfbey 11-Dec-16 17:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 837 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 700 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 945 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 776 Warwick 11-Dec-16 20:56
Block Construction 821 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:23
Re: Block Construction 851 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:35
Re: Block Construction 867 randompHactor 11-Dec-16 21:53
Re: Block Construction 827 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 901 loveritas 11-Dec-16 22:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 863 DScribr 11-Dec-16 23:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 811 loveritas 12-Dec-16 01:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 915 DScribr 12-Dec-16 14:31
More Sand 842 loveritas 12-Dec-16 22:11
Re: More Sand 809 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:19
Re: More Sand 833 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 00:15
Re: More Sand 827 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:25
Re: More Sand 837 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:03
Re: More Sand 830 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 01:19
Where is the Sand 843 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:00
Re: Where is the Sand 846 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:15
Re: Where is the Sand 853 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:34
Re: More Sand 888 Audrey 13-Dec-16 03:50
Re: More Sand 818 cladking 13-Dec-16 04:43
Re: More Sand 882 Audrey 13-Dec-16 04:55
Re: More Sand 919 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 11:40
Re: More Sand 929 Audrey 14-Dec-16 02:43
Re: More Sand 926 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 10:39
Re: More Sand 859 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:19
Re: More Sand 859 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 03:03
Re: More Sand 824 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 03:19
Re: More Sand 895 Audrey 15-Dec-16 05:40
Re: More Sand 848 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 09:50
Re: More Sand 761 DUNE 15-Dec-16 11:35
Re: More Sand 835 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 12:38
Re: More Sand 831 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:10
Re: More Sand 822 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 14:52
Re: More Sand 785 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 14:33
Re: More Sand 762 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 15:17
Re: More Sand 801 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:35
Re: More Sand 776 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 15:45
Re: More Sand 851 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 16:02
Re: More Sand 869 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 16:25
Re: More Sand 797 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:00
Re: More Sand 694 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:20
Re: More Sand 819 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:38
Re: More Sand 789 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:48
Re: More Sand 824 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:27
Re: More Sand 781 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 14:41
Re: More Sand 805 DUNE 16-Dec-16 15:38
Re: More Sand 772 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 17:02
Re: More Sand 900 DUNE 16-Dec-16 17:15
Re: More Sand 887 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:12
Re: More Sand 768 DUNE 16-Dec-16 20:04
Re: More Sand 852 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 17:01
Re: More Sand 760 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:33
Chisel Marks Suggest..... 816 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:20
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 837 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:41
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 759 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:49
Re: More Sand 765 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:17
Re: More Sand 782 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 11:43
Popular Posters 993 loveritas 14-Dec-16 10:57
Re: Popular Posters 968 M. J. Thomas 14-Dec-16 13:52
Re: Popular Posters 796 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:18
Presumption Correction 993 loveritas 13-Dec-16 06:35
Re: Presumption Correction 889 Audrey 13-Dec-16 06:38
Re: More Sand 874 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 07:17
Re: More Sand 815 cladking 13-Dec-16 14:46
Re: More Sand 856 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 18:07
Re: More Sand 760 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 19:07
Re: More Sand 886 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:19
Re: More Sand 834 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 02:34
Re: More Sand 876 cladking 14-Dec-16 03:41
Re: More Sand 808 Thanos5150 15-Dec-16 17:39
Re: More Sand 849 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:16
Re: More Sand 769 Audrey 14-Dec-16 03:31
GOT Sand??? 827 DScribr 14-Dec-16 04:06
Re: GOT Sand??? 876 Audrey 14-Dec-16 04:36
Re: GOT brains??? 981 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:16
Re: GOT Sand??? 935 cladking 14-Dec-16 04:51
Who Ya' Gonna Call? 848 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:51
Re: More Sand 819 loveritas 13-Dec-16 01:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 761 Steve Clayton 11-Dec-16 23:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 737 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 00:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 847 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 792 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 813 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 1127 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 855 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 753 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 19:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 815 M. J. Thomas 12-Dec-16 11:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 827 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 17:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 836 M. J. Thomas 13-Dec-16 01:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 802 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 1287 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 18:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 783 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 18:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 850 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 878 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 802 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 779 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 804 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 17:31
Houdin's most critical error 891 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:17
Re: Houdin's most critical error 812 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 18:52
Re: Houdin's most critical error 876 Warwick 14-Dec-16 19:14
Re: Houdin's most critical error 781 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 21:07
the $64,000.00 Question 848 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:35
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 744 DScribr 16-Dec-16 21:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 782 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 842 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:23
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 766 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 793 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 23:07
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 765 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 11:24
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 834 DUNE 18-Dec-16 12:14
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 758 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 17:05
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 837 DUNE 18-Dec-16 17:51
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 718 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 686 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 19:41
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 728 DUNE 19-Dec-16 21:29
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 651 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 22:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 827 DUNE 19-Dec-16 23:21
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 692 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:56
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 850 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 14:53
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 710 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:17
Where are the Taxonomies? 762 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: Where are the Taxonomies? 776 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:33
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 708 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 759 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 796 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:58
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 776 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:44
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 633 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 17:33
In A Cemetery 775 DScribr 18-Dec-16 20:06
Re: In A Cemetery 760 cladking 18-Dec-16 20:11
Re: In A Cemetery 786 DScribr 18-Dec-16 22:59
Re: In A Cemetery 726 cladking 19-Dec-16 00:52
Re: In A Cemetery 778 DScribr 19-Dec-16 01:32
Re: In A Cemetery 671 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:52
Re: In A Cemetery 787 DScribr 19-Dec-16 03:54
Re: In A Cemetery 821 Thanos5150 19-Dec-16 04:44
Re: In A Cemetery 714 M. J. Thomas 19-Dec-16 17:53
Re: In A Cemetery 708 cladking 19-Dec-16 17:59
Re: In A Cemetery 721 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 18:13
Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 760 DScribr 20-Dec-16 03:50
Re: Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 725 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:34
Re: In A Cemetery 743 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:23
Re: In A Cemetery 719 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:28
Re: In A Cemetery 702 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:52
Re: In A Cemetery 671 Corpuscles 20-Dec-16 11:58
Re: In A Cemetery 666 DUNE 20-Dec-16 15:06
Re: In A Cemetery 886 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:42
Re: In A Cemetery 754 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:49
Re: In A Cemetery 699 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 16:31
Re: In A Cemetery 640 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 16:49
Re: In A Cemetery 698 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:11
Re: In A Cemetery 701 cladking 20-Dec-16 19:46
Re: In A Cemetery 689 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 20:51
Re: In A Cemetery 719 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:56
Re: In A Cemetery 771 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:09
Re: In A Cemetery 684 Warwick 20-Dec-16 21:15
Re: In A Cemetery 690 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:42
Re: In A Cemetery 669 Warwick 21-Dec-16 23:01
Re: In A Cemetery 748 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:28
Re: In A Cemetery 694 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:07
Re: Why was the Egyptologist so depressed? 725 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:58
He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 680 cladking 21-Dec-16 20:27
Re: He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 585 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:35
Re: In A Cemetery 756 Thanos5150 20-Dec-16 21:44
Re: In A Cemetery 625 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:13
Re: In A Cemetery 767 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 00:02
Re: In A Cemetery 763 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 01:24
Re: In A Cemetery 899 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 01:55
Re: In A Cemetery 771 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:52
Enough et als to build a pyramid. 735 cladking 21-Dec-16 03:06
Re: In A Cemetery 751 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 03:15
Re: In A Cemetery 729 Audrey 21-Dec-16 04:50
Re: In A Cemetery 763 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:02
sidebar 861 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:16
Re: In A Cemetery 922 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:01
Re: In A Cemetery 937 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 07:16
Re: In A Cemetery 724 Corpuscles 21-Dec-16 12:00
Re: In A Cemetery 637 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 13:39
Re: In A Cemetery 677 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 13:54
Re: In A Cemetery 922 DUNE 21-Dec-16 15:55
Re: In A Cemetery 845 Thunderbird 21-Dec-16 17:48
Re: In A Cemetery 725 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 22:33
Re: In A Cemetery 866 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 22:02
Re: In A Cemetery 692 Warwick 21-Dec-16 22:11
Re: In A Cemetery 743 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:49
Re: In A Cemetery 795 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 06:02
Re: In A Cemetery 748 cladking 21-Dec-16 14:44
Re: In A Cemetery 512 Steve Clayton 30-Mar-18 20:42
Re: In A Cemetery 655 DScribr 19-Dec-16 23:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 782 Sirius7237 14-Dec-16 23:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 866 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 720 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 03:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 920 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 04:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 816 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 13:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 851 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 15:35
Animal Fat for Lube?!? 806 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:48
Re: Animal Fat for Lube?!? 775 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 17:26
Re: Animal Fat reduces Friction-That's A Fact! 779 DScribr 15-Dec-16 20:13
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 750 Sirius7237 17-Dec-16 22:09
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 765 Steve Clayton 19-Dec-16 02:03
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 918 Sirius7237 19-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 728 Steve Clayton 20-Dec-16 17:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 619 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 715 Steve Clayton 21-Dec-16 18:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 796 cladking 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 745 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 753 cladking 12-Dec-16 15:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 776 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 897 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 862 cladking 12-Dec-16 02:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 737 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:26
Re: Accretion Layers 752 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 02:14
Re: G3 Exposed 987 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 03:53
Re: G3 Exposed 910 loveritas 12-Dec-16 04:44
Re: G3 Exposed 729 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:15
Re: G3 Exposed 1062 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:39
Re: G3 Exposed 817 loveritas 12-Dec-16 06:17
Re: G3 Exposed 746 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:40
Re: G3 Exposed 727 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:40
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 1075 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 04:02
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 848 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:12
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 807 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:21
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 784 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:38
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 1182 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 817 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 716 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 717 DScribr 12-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 802 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 763 cladking 12-Dec-16 18:32
Re: Pyramid Construction 738 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 768 cladking 12-Dec-16 19:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 752 Warwick 12-Dec-16 19:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 699 cladking 12-Dec-16 20:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 767 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 718 cladking 13-Dec-16 20:29
NO 721 Warwick 13-Dec-16 21:54
Re: Pyramid Construction 752 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 753 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 912 cladking 14-Dec-16 18:52
While Egyptology fiddles... 710 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:32
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 827 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 707 cladking 16-Dec-16 20:22
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 758 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 765 cladking 16-Dec-16 23:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 830 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 776 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 658 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 751 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:13
Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 796 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:06
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 739 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:27
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction-Webster's is not...... 790 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 686 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 758 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 699 Warwick 14-Dec-16 20:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 720 cladking 14-Dec-16 20:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 713 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:39
Re: Pyramid Construction 807 cladking 15-Dec-16 01:48
correction 663 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:30
Re: correction 763 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:49
Re: correction 709 Warwick 16-Dec-16 20:05
Re: correction 683 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 20:27
Re: correction 686 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:10
Re: correction 690 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:50
NONE 613 DScribr 16-Dec-16 22:59
Re: correction 714 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:53
Re: 21st Century Westerner v 4th Dyn. Ancient Egyptian 810 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 23:28
Re: correction 722 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 16:20
Re: correction 705 DocKnowles 22-Dec-16 20:22
Re: correction 720 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 21:00
Re: correction 740 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 06:43
Re: correction 683 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 07:43
Re: correction 680 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 10:44
Re: correction 660 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 12:06
Re: correction 677 cladking 23-Dec-16 14:26
Re: correction 697 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 15:41
Re: correction 740 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:13
Re: correction 625 Origyptian 23-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 604 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:31
Re: correction 717 Thanos5150 23-Dec-16 17:39
Re: correction 706 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 08:13
Re: correction 682 cladking 24-Dec-16 15:18
Re: correction 834 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 16:49
Re: correction 683 cladking 24-Dec-16 17:24
Re: correction 671 Thanos5150 24-Dec-16 16:52
Re: correction 718 Origyptian 24-Dec-16 18:12
Re: correction 731 Martin Stower 24-Dec-16 23:42
Re: correction 968 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 00:51
Re: correction 711 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 01:03
Re: correction 817 DUNE 27-Dec-16 18:09
Re: correction 807 DUNE 30-Dec-16 21:16
Re: correction 784 Thanos5150 30-Dec-16 23:58
Re: correction 913 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-16 07:38
Re: correction 672 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 14:44
Re: correction 690 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 20:39
Re: correction 684 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 22:02
Re: correction 660 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 21:42
Re: correction 676 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:24
Re: correction 805 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:38
Re: correction 682 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 23:00
Re: correction 876 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 23:32
Re: correction 712 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 00:46
Re: correction 717 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 05:28
Re: correction 665 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 06:02
Re: correction 631 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:31
Re: correction 647 Audrey 17-Dec-16 07:07
Re: correction 744 DUNE 17-Dec-16 11:16
Re: correction 877 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:39
Re: correction 734 DUNE 17-Dec-16 16:48
Re: correction 734 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 17:00
Block Removal 770 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:25
Re: correction 746 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 12:36
Re: correction 676 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 15:08
Re: correction 778 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 13:56
Egypto-illogic. 646 cladking 17-Dec-16 15:32
Re: Egypto-illogic. 660 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 16:41
Ori-illogic. 736 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:12
Re: Egypto-illogic. 681 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:38
Got Shovels? 684 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:30
Reality-what a concept 771 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:09
Re: correction 588 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 18:26
Re: correction 708 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 19:14
Re: correction 701 cladking 17-Dec-16 19:37
Re: correction 654 Audrey 17-Dec-16 20:14
Modern Gods! 622 cladking 17-Dec-16 20:55
Re: correction 702 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 22:27
Birds Of A Feather 705 DScribr 17-Dec-16 22:30
Re: correction 650 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 00:37
Re: correction 704 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:35
Re: correction 646 Thanos5150 18-Dec-16 02:29
Re: correction 636 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:21
Re: correction 739 cladking 18-Dec-16 02:03
Re: correction 525 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:45
Re: correction 715 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:28
Re: correction 741 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:50
Re: correction 691 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:45
"We" have no objective reason to believe..... 771 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 632 cladking 17-Dec-16 14:51
Post o' the week! 679 DScribr 17-Dec-16 16:04
Re: Post o' the week! 668 cladking 17-Dec-16 16:11
Same Old Logic 759 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:00
Re: correction 699 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:33
Re: correction 914 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 05:43
Not cropped, 'enhanced.' 760 DScribr 17-Dec-16 02:10
Re: correction 733 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:45
Re: correction 597 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:40
Re: correction 714 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:28
Re: correction 626 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:37
Re: correction 1024 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:08
Re: correction 700 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:47
Ducks in a barrel 710 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:50
Re: Ducks in a barrel 735 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:15
Re: Ducks in a barrel 852 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:15
Re: correction 749 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 01:14
Re: correction 721 Audrey 21-Dec-16 01:54
Good Grief!!! 723 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:32
Re: Good Grief!!! 731 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 23:04
Clueless 789 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 23:24
Re: Clueless 699 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:08
Re: Good Grief!!! 850 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 828 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 761 cladking 15-Dec-16 04:00
The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 788 DScribr 15-Dec-16 04:54
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 748 cladking 15-Dec-16 05:15
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 763 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:22
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 675 cladking 15-Dec-16 17:08
thank you for the opportunity 747 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 776 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:31
It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 747 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:03
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 771 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:32
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 760 cladking 12-Dec-16 22:58
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 815 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 00:09
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 753 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 791 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 826 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 19:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 703 DocKnowles 18-Dec-16 09:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 655 Thanos5150 02-Mar-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 492 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 575 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 17:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 672 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 495 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 01:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 572 Audrey 03-Mar-18 03:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 561 cladking 03-Mar-18 04:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 625 Audrey 03-Mar-18 07:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 527 cladking 03-Mar-18 14:44
Re: Pyramid Construction 492 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 503 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 483 Audrey 05-Mar-18 00:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 474 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 496 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 03:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 582 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 13:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 508 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 511 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 516 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 21:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 586 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 524 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 17:11
Re: Pyramid Construction 510 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 17:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 478 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 500 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 22:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 492 Audrey 03-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 480 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 496 Audrey 04-Mar-18 22:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 624 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:50
Re: Pyramid Construction 507 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 511 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 21:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 557 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 23:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 462 Thanos5150 04-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 517 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 547 DUNE 04-Mar-18 22:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 486 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 02:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 537 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 528 cladking 05-Mar-18 05:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 582 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 02:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 527 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 506 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 575 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 18:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 539 Warwick 06-Mar-18 00:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 501 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 04:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 537 Warwick 06-Mar-18 04:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 559 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 14:33
Riposte 678 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:27
Re: Riposte 577 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 16:37
Re: Riposte 482 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:54
Re: Riposte 572 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:15
Re: Riposte 508 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:18
Re: Riposte 470 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 19:30
coup de grace 524 Warwick 06-Mar-18 20:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 524 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 17:37
Re: Pyramid Construction 476 cladking 04-Mar-18 17:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 539 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 18:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 494 DUNE 04-Mar-18 19:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 498 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 507 cladking 04-Mar-18 21:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 563 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 20:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 534 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 536 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 21:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 546 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 522 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 02:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 559 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 548 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 23:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 539 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 496 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 548 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 534 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-18 19:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 550 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 19:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 498 cladking 05-Mar-18 20:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 504 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:14
Re: Pyramid Construction 673 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 493 cladking 06-Mar-18 19:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 523 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 21:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 467 cladking 06-Mar-18 22:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 509 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 542 Corpuscles 07-Mar-18 00:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 567 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 02:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 503 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 534 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 523 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-18 00:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 523 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 527 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 638 Origyptian 11-Mar-18 14:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 602 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 22:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 515 Jon Ellison 25-Mar-18 22:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 541 Barbelo 25-Mar-18 22:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 545 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 609 Barbelo 26-Mar-18 03:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 580 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 04:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 523 Barbelo 27-Mar-18 10:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 560 Origyptian 27-Mar-18 15:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 551 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 22:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 518 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 553 cladking 28-Mar-18 00:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 501 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 476 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 537 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 542 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 13:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 474 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-18 17:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 479 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Dashur Ancient Harbor 572 Thunderbird 28-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 592 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 562 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 21:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 525 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 00:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 515 Origyptian 29-Mar-18 05:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 542 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 16:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 615 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 14:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 606 Thanos5150 30-Mar-18 16:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 462 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 491 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 17:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 499 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 560 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 545 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:01
Where Are The Palaces? 496 Barbelo 31-Mar-18 00:26
Re: Where Are The Palaces? 504 Origyptian 31-Mar-18 04:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 520 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 04:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 513 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 545 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 674 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 647 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 499 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 15:55
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 520 Thunderbird 05-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 527 Eddie Larry 05-Apr-18 21:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 640 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 22:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 689 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 04:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 506 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 12:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 512 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 501 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 18:21
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 526 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 19:01
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 574 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 19:12
Archaeology vs Archaeology 498 Barbelo 06-Apr-18 20:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 498 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 21:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 581 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-18 23:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 557 Thanos5150 03-Apr-18 17:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 527 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-18 00:39
Constructors’ Physique Assumption 511 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Apr-18 19:08
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 535 Origyptian 04-Apr-18 01:54
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 526 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Apr-18 14:24
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 601 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-18 23:21
Means & Methods Assumptions 523 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-18 15:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 630 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 21:13
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 508 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:45
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 486 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:01
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 592 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 485 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 494 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 19:34
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 512 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 03:48
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 567 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 05:53
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 459 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 488 Thanos5150 07-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 482 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 23:32
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 504 Thanos5150 08-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 458 Steve Clayton 08-Apr-18 02:57
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 529 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:58