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Martin Stower Wrote:
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> I said nothing about what you believe.
> I talked about what you say, what you insinuate...

First of all, that's a clear contradiction. To infer that someone "insinuated" something is to attempt to visit their intentions beyond the actual merit of the words posted. You indeed are trying to claim you know what I believe. You do not.

Furthermore, when you say,

    "Let’s have some clarity on who you think forged the ˤprw names at Wadi al-Jarf (as forgery is plainly what you’re suggesting: 'the paint marks have no business being that legible after all that time” etc.)' "
it's reasonable to interpret your use of "clarity", "who you think forged", "what you're suggesting", etc. to indicate that you are attempting to divine what I believe. But of course, attempting to presuppose the intentions of others instead of simply taking the posted words on their own merit is a very risky business. And so, as it turns out, you are incorrect at every turn. You are not clarifying what I said, you have totally misinterpreted it into indicating a "forgery" which I have not "suggested". You simply are twisting my words into trying to make them say something derogatory when I've said no such thing. I've only repeated the observations reported by Tallet as I understood them and rendered my own interpreation of the evidence he reported. I simply disagree with his conclusions and you twist it into some kind of devious "forgery".

In fact, if anything posted in this discussion can be construed as an insult to Tallet, we only need to witness what others here have claimed was observed and reported by Tallet, such as claiming he observed "unbreached" galleries, or that what he observed constituted proof of provenance of those galleries, or that he presented proof that el-Jarf had anything to do with the original construction of G1, when Tallet, in fact, reported no such definitive evidence. If Tallet actually did observe such definitive evidence but failed to report it (it's nowhere in his published papers), then yes, he would indeed be negligent as an investigator. I can only assume he did not observe such definitive evidence or else he would have reported it. And so anyone making such claims that he did make such obserrvations despite his lack of reporting them are the ones who are insulting Tallet.

Sure, I'm frustrated that Tallet is not more precise in his reporting. How many are "several dozens of storage jars", and how was that assessed amidst the field of shard rubble that remains as the only evidence of such jars? How big are "two large anchors"? Are they large enough to secure a boat hauling multi-ton cargo? How does lifting items off the ground by suspending them on wooden boards protect anything from moisture in an allegedly sealed chamber containing moisture? Just look at what happened to the wood in the "boat pits" when subjected to such moisture. One would think wood might have a bit more value in a desert than simply providing shelving for items being placed in "short-term storage" within a moist cave as part of a bustling harbor facility. What are the shapes, dimensions, and precise locations of those circular recesses in the floor and those single-course limestone walls within the floor grooves that are hewn into the bedrock? How does he describe an actual operation that uses such galleries 5km from the harbor as a short-term storage facility for the harbor despite the lack of an efficient transportation system? Why does a short-term storage system need such a "complex closure system" to permenantly seal it? Why hew such storage into solid bedrock so far away from the harbor when it would be so much easier and more functional to build them above ground with limestone blocks closer to the harbor? I assume the vague reporting style is customary and acceptable in the soft sciences and humanities, so I realize we need to accept that, but we still need to take care with how the conclusions are drawn from such vagueries.

Meanwhile, I'm not accusing Tallet of misrepresenting his observations, nor have I made any false or derogatory claims about him. Nor have I "insinuated" any such thing. I have not accused him of observing anything of critical importance that he deliberately chose not to report, such as a sealed gallery. Rather, I've given Tallet full credit for his observations. I've only disagreed with his conclusions which I'm not only entitled to do, but which I'm sure, as a resposible, professional investigator, Tallet fully expects and likely embraces in the spirit of scholarly discourse.

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Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 25-Sep-16 16:17 by Origyptian.

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Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 4724 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 03:30
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 851 eyeofhorus33 04-Sep-16 06:28
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 782 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 19:18
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 831 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 08:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 833 DUNE 04-Sep-16 10:12
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 796 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 10:24
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 814 DUNE 04-Sep-16 10:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 724 DUNE 04-Sep-16 11:22
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 813 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 18:16
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 726 DUNE 04-Sep-16 18:23
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 746 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 18:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 754 cladking 04-Sep-16 21:02
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 642 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 21:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 769 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 06:09
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 687 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 16:24
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 771 Jon Ellison 05-Sep-16 17:14
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 653 cladking 05-Sep-16 22:10
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 784 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 11:26
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 812 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 17:03
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 600 Steve Clayton 04-Sep-16 18:25
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 772 Steve Clayton 04-Sep-16 18:55
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 705 cladking 04-Sep-16 20:21
Boats R Us 637 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:16
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 725 jamesglory 08-Sep-16 06:06
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 634 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 18:09
Re: Khufu's Boats used in their Pits 667 DScribr 09-Sep-16 18:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 738 jamesglory 16-Sep-16 05:45
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 733 jamesglory 26-Sep-16 13:22
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 622 cladking 26-Sep-16 14:17
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 592 Thanos5150 27-Sep-16 00:17
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 787 jamesglory 27-Sep-16 06:43
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 750 Thanos5150 27-Sep-16 17:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 615 DUNE 15-Oct-16 10:58
Khufu I/Block 20 534 Dr. Troglodyte 15-Oct-16 18:13
Re: Khufu I/Block 20 643 Thanos5150 15-Oct-16 21:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 642 Origyptian 18-Oct-16 00:02
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 623 DUNE 18-Oct-16 07:56
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 668 Thanos5150 18-Oct-16 16:50
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 551 DUNE 18-Oct-16 17:00
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 710 Thanos5150 18-Oct-16 17:36
Re: Khufu's Boats-to be built by others..... 723 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:07
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 776 cladking 04-Sep-16 20:26
Re: Water erosion 844 Thunderbird 05-Sep-16 14:36
Re: Water erosion 652 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 16:18
Re: Water erosion 778 Steve Clayton 05-Sep-16 16:50
Re: Water erosion 596 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 17:46
Re: Water erosion 728 Steve Clayton 05-Sep-16 22:12
Re: Water erosion 642 Steve Clayton 05-Sep-16 16:58
Re: Water erosion 627 eyeofhorus33 05-Sep-16 17:29
Re: Water erosion 690 Merrell 05-Sep-16 17:46
Re:Control the conversation.....tantrum. ... 718 Thunderbird 05-Sep-16 20:14
Re: Re:Control the conversation.....tantrum. ... 721 Martin Stower 05-Sep-16 20:55
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 696 Thunderbird 06-Sep-16 04:57
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 712 Martin Stower 06-Sep-16 21:06
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 624 cladking 06-Sep-16 21:51
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 733 Jon Ellison 06-Sep-16 21:56
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 710 Martin Stower 06-Sep-16 23:21
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 639 cladking 07-Sep-16 00:11
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 528 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:23
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 653 cladking 07-Sep-16 19:07
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 650 DScribr 08-Sep-16 01:17
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 711 cladking 08-Sep-16 13:39
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 643 Origyptian 08-Sep-16 23:56
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 579 cladking 09-Sep-16 00:52
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 597 Martin Stower 06-Sep-16 23:13
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 820 cladking 07-Sep-16 00:17
Stream of Consciousness 699 eyeofhorus33 06-Sep-16 19:33
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 675 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 12:55
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 635 cladking 06-Sep-16 14:03
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 638 Steve Clayton 06-Sep-16 17:28
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 612 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 18:08
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 614 Steve Clayton 07-Sep-16 12:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 636 cladking 07-Sep-16 14:19
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 660 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 18:23
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 652 Jon Ellison 06-Sep-16 18:34
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 677 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 19:16
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 648 Jon Ellison 06-Sep-16 23:38
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 908 Thanos5150 06-Sep-16 23:41
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 644 Steve Clayton 07-Sep-16 14:17
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 615 cladking 07-Sep-16 14:42
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 668 Steve Clayton 07-Sep-16 15:46
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 680 cladking 07-Sep-16 16:24
Galleries :: Graves 749 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Sep-16 23:33
Re: Galleries :: Graves 692 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 00:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 864 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 03:32
Re: Galleries :: Graves 658 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 13:21
Re: Galleries :: Graves 601 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 16:52
Re: Galleries :: Graves 789 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 19:00
Re: Galleries :: Graves 659 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 21:54
Re: Galleries :: Graves 633 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 23:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 664 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 23:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 639 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 05:50
Re: Galleries :: Graves 704 Thanos5150 10-Sep-16 06:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 671 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 17:29
Re: Galleries :: Graves 804 Thanos5150 10-Sep-16 21:06
Re: Galleries :: Graves 663 cladking 10-Sep-16 21:30
Re: Galleries :: Graves 756 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 15:06
Re: Galleries :: Graves 701 Thunderbird 12-Sep-16 15:36
Re: Galleries :: Graves 611 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 01:41
Re: Galleries :: Graves 670 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 02:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 689 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 04:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 803 Morten 13-Sep-16 09:05
Thanks for the link 633 DScribr 13-Sep-16 15:04
Re: Galleries :: Graves 695 DScribr 13-Sep-16 15:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 601 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 17:03
Boat Graves-one answer. 677 DScribr 13-Sep-16 17:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 579 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 02:57
Re: Galleries :: Graves 644 cladking 09-Sep-16 03:25
Close enough 677 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:02
Re: Close enough 561 cladking 09-Sep-16 21:03
Re: Close enough 674 DScribr 10-Sep-16 00:33
Re: Close enough 675 cladking 10-Sep-16 01:09
Re: Galleries :: Graves 630 Dr. Troglodyte 09-Sep-16 15:43
Re: Galleries :: Graves 614 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 18:02
It wasn't 675 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:06
Re: It wasn't 718 Origyptian 08-Sep-16 23:45
At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 643 DScribr 09-Sep-16 01:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 654 Martin Stower 09-Sep-16 12:55
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists!!! 659 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 619 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 13:06
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 719 Martin Stower 09-Sep-16 14:16
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 624 cladking 09-Sep-16 14:35
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 773 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 19:22
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 707 Jon Ellison 09-Sep-16 20:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 701 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 21:41
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 691 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 22:17
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 666 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 16:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 666 Thanos5150 10-Sep-16 21:39
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 731 DScribr 11-Sep-16 02:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 604 Thanos5150 12-Sep-16 03:27
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 940 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 01:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 640 Thanos5150 12-Sep-16 03:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 710 cladking 12-Sep-16 03:32
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 681 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 17:48
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 650 Martin Stower 12-Sep-16 20:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 637 cladking 12-Sep-16 20:49
Re: Shred of evidence : ) 664 Thunderbird 12-Sep-16 21:19
Re: Shred of evidence : ) 643 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 00:00
Sphinx 660 DScribr 13-Sep-16 00:43
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 682 Thanos5150 12-Sep-16 21:04
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 622 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 00:21
Mainstream evidence still exists.... 555 DScribr 13-Sep-16 00:46
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 612 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 04:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 619 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 04:31
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 595 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 13:27
Ergo, Adaption! 511 DScribr 13-Sep-16 15:33
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 570 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 15:52
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 665 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 16:47
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 570 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 16:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 751 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 16:58
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 559 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 18:15
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 634 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 19:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 586 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 19:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 693 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 00:38
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 575 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 02:24
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 537 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 16:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 603 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 16:32
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 629 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 19:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 612 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 20:19
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 584 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 22:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 618 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 22:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 613 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 02:12
Overruled!!! 516 DScribr 14-Sep-16 03:12
Re: Overruled!!! 647 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 03:02
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 572 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 12:19
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 593 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 17:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 626 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 22:17
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 592 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 22:22
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 606 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 22:39
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 656 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 22:51
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 648 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 00:55
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 605 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 22:30
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 518 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 22:37
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 640 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 22:32
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 565 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 23:51
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 638 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 00:56
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 547 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 01:33
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 627 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 02:34
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 598 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 12:00
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 640 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 03:30
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 605 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 15:16
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 648 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 18:39
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 606 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 22:36
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 609 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 23:17
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 628 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 23:34
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 528 Origyptian 16-Sep-16 20:37
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 699 Martin Stower 16-Sep-16 23:52
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 633 DScribr 17-Sep-16 00:45
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 703 Jon Ellison 17-Sep-16 07:45
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 625 Martin Stower 17-Sep-16 15:56
A polite and academic style of writing. 574 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:35
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 614 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 15:25
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 640 Martin Stower 17-Sep-16 16:16
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 585 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 17:59
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 623 Martin Stower 17-Sep-16 20:57
MS and DScribr are really the same person!!!.......Film @ 11. 630 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:46
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 625 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 22:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 564 Martin Stower 18-Sep-16 00:27
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 618 Thanos5150 18-Sep-16 00:52
Misleading still exists... 606 DScribr 18-Sep-16 01:26
Re: Misleading still exists... 583 randompHactor 18-Sep-16 02:45
Re: Misleading still exists... 607 Barbelo 18-Sep-16 11:32
Re: Misleading still exists... 630 DScribr 18-Sep-16 13:55
Re: Misleading still exists... 586 randompHactor 18-Sep-16 15:16
Re: Misleading still exists... 483 DScribr 18-Sep-16 19:30
Re: Misleading still exists... 596 Origyptian 18-Sep-16 20:46
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 580 Origyptian 19-Sep-16 18:45
Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 550 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:40
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 625 Origyptian 18-Sep-16 20:53
Re: STILL Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 750 DScribr 19-Sep-16 00:41
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 651 Origyptian 19-Sep-16 17:50
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 484 cladking 19-Sep-16 18:06
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 518 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:06
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 735 cladking 20-Sep-16 14:29
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 610 Jon Ellison 20-Sep-16 16:46
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 674 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:34
They were sealed during the late 4th D. 657 DScribr 20-Sep-16 17:23
Re: They were sealed during the late 4th D. 542 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:44
Re: They were sealed during the late 4th D. 698 Jon Ellison 24-Sep-16 20:03
Re: They were sealed during the late 4th D. 599 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 03:52
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 597 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:29
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 644 Thanos5150 17-Sep-16 18:01
Mainstream evidence exists... 636 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:49
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 604 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 21:56
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 596 Thanos5150 17-Sep-16 23:53
Summary perspective of el-Jarf 643 Origyptian 19-Sep-16 20:30
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 629 Martin Stower 19-Sep-16 22:55
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 618 Thanos5150 19-Sep-16 23:40
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 631 Corpuscles 20-Sep-16 00:43
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 617 Thanos5150 20-Sep-16 02:05
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 604 Corpuscles 20-Sep-16 23:50
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 614 cladking 21-Sep-16 00:38
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 584 Origyptian 20-Sep-16 05:09
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 667 Martin Stower 20-Sep-16 10:10
'The Truth' 608 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:20
Re: 'The Truth' 524 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:31
Re: 'The Truth' 640 Martin Stower 24-Sep-16 00:41
Re: 'The Truth' 637 Origyptian 24-Sep-16 17:11
Re: 'The Truth' 672 Martin Stower 24-Sep-16 19:21
Re: 'The Truth' 640 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 04:13
Re: 'The Truth' 687 Martin Stower 25-Sep-16 13:30
Re: 'The Truth' 594 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 15:45
Re: 'The Truth' 613 Martin Stower 25-Sep-16 18:15
Re: 'The Truth' 566 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 18:35
Re: 'The Truth' 578 Martin Stower 25-Sep-16 19:09
Tallet Misrepresented by Ori.......... 591 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:18
Perspective vs Fact 581 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:12
Re: Perspective vs Fact 590 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:28
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 678 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 23:20
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 610 DScribr 16-Sep-16 00:40
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 584 Origyptian 16-Sep-16 01:53
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 597 Martin Stower 16-Sep-16 14:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists...whether read-or not! 606 DScribr 16-Sep-16 15:17
Galleries Correction 594 DScribr 16-Sep-16 15:15
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 524 Martin Stower 16-Sep-16 14:24
Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 613 DScribr 14-Sep-16 03:25
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 620 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 15:15
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 626 DScribr 14-Sep-16 16:04
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 600 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 21:44
Fringe-in-denial.... .... 624 DScribr 15-Sep-16 17:34
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 520 cladking 15-Sep-16 18:35
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 506 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 19:40
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 582 cladking 15-Sep-16 19:56
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 571 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 20:53
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 591 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 22:10
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 649 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 03:06
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 564 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 09:17
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 555 DScribr 15-Sep-16 17:37
Life Unfair! 611 DScribr 15-Sep-16 17:36
Wadi el Jarf evidence exists 562 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:14
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists...or does it?!? 697 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:09
Re: It wasn't 637 Martin Stower 09-Sep-16 12:37
Got Pics? 567 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:17
Re: It wasn't 1067 M. J. Thomas 09-Sep-16 13:09
Re: It wasn't 615 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 13:26
Re: It wasn't 609 eyeofhorus33 09-Sep-16 15:54
Re: It wasn't 578 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 15:56
Re: Saqqara 652 Thunderbird 09-Sep-16 17:01
Re: Saqqara 650 cladking 09-Sep-16 17:18
Re: Djedefre. ...your Fired ! 601 Thunderbird 10-Sep-16 03:38
Re: It wasn't 564 Steve Clayton 10-Sep-16 01:08
Re: It wasn't 672 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 17:02
Re: It wasn't 760 Martin Stower 10-Sep-16 20:49
Re: It wasn't 686 Martin Stower 10-Sep-16 21:33
Re: It wasn't 603 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 00:53
Re: It wasn't 580 Martin Stower 12-Sep-16 20:43
Re: It wasn't 635 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 02:37
Re: It wasn't 648 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 14:57
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 615 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 16:20
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 606 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 16:42
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 615 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 17:18
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 557 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 18:00
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 511 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 17:30
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 571 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 18:11
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 610 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 22:12
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 591 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 23:08
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 594 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 23:26
Lifting IS Required. 650 DScribr 14-Sep-16 12:35
Re: Lifting IS Required. 514 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 16:16
Re: Lifting IS Required. 646 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 16:43
Re: Lifting IS Required. 559 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 16:51
Re: Lifting IS Required. 645 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 18:16
Re: Lifting IS Required. 598 M. J. Thomas 14-Sep-16 18:35
Re: Lifting IS Required. 579 randompHactor 14-Sep-16 19:28
Re: Lifting IS Required. 590 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 20:01
Re: Lifting IS Required. 633 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 19:03
Re: Lifting IS Required. 813 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 20:02
Re: Lifting IS Required. 592 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 20:13
Re: Lifting IS Required. 674 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 21:58
Re: Lifting IS Required. 557 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 23:18
Re: Lifting IS Required. 529 Steve Clayton 15-Sep-16 01:05
Re: Lifting IS Required. 776 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 20:38
Re: Lifting IS Required. 686 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 22:39
Re: Lifting IS Required. 428 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 23:18
Re: Lifting IS Required. 567 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 23:32
Re: Lifting IS Required. 576 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 23:55
Re: Lifting IS Required. 618 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 09:09
Re: Lifting IS Required. 601 Steve Clayton 14-Sep-16 19:42
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 555 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 17:02
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 533 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 17:38
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 542 Steve Clayton 16-Sep-16 12:38
The Pharaoh's House 593 DScribr 16-Sep-16 15:14
Water 471 D-Archer 21-Sep-16 11:28
Re: Water 564 cladking 21-Sep-16 13:37
Saw pit? 612 Apap 22-Sep-16 00:13
Great idea. 488 cladking 22-Sep-16 02:00
Re: Great idea. 603 Apap 22-Sep-16 18:22
Re: Great idea. 631 cladking 22-Sep-16 19:13
Re: Saw pit? 670 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:52


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