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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Very well, let's say that just ONE stone, made of
> granite, weighing 80 tons was quarried,
> transported 600 miles from Aswan, shaped, lifted
> 160' (to the KC) and positioned with great
> precision (virtually undetectable joint with
> adjacent stones. How on earth was that done by the
> OK?

Good question. If history had no mysteries I would not have spent the last 25yrs of my life traveling all over the world and researching these sites let alone waste my time here.

> Now, let's consider that your citation claims:
> "For the King's chamber granite blocks weighting
> 40 to 50 tons were used". Specifically, Aswan
> granite. How on earth was that done by the
> OK?

Ditto.

> Now more realistically the traditional
> narrative would have us believe that many dozens
> of granite blocks comprising the Antechamber,
> King's Chamber, and Relieving Chambers, most of
> which are 50-80 tons, shipped from Aswan 600 miles
> to the south, and positioned with great precision
> up there at 160+ feet without access to iron, the
> wheel, the pulley, or turnbuckle. How on earth was
> that done by those same Late Stone
> Agers?

If iron (or bronze), the wheel, and pulley, which I would add the crane as well, were required then it stands to reason this is what the builders had. Not to mention large saws, drills, and lathes. There is no doubt lost technology is on display in Egypt which for me what at least was required would be on par with the Romans.

> I seem to have missed that you meant that the
> dynastics built the southern pits deliberately in
> a different shape than all the other tapered pits,
> and they initially had a different function in
> mind for those 2 rectangular pits, but then for
> whatever reason decided to repurpose those pits as
> boat pits instead. If that makes more sense to
> you, so be it.

I think it would make sense to anyone.

> Respectfully, I think that's a very farfetched
> contrivance to account for those pits.

I stand corrected.

> What other
> possible function might such unique rectangular
> pits have served the OK in that position so close
> to G1 in such prime real estate, every square inch
> of which was surely planned by the royal
> authorities of the time?

Why is always the question of the negative the only "proof" offered of the alternative? The fact is we do not know what, if any, original purpose it may have served in the OK is not "proof" it did not have a purpose which at a later time was converted to another during the same period. And who is to say that was not the plan all along? We don't know.

I think the problem is actually that the southern pits are not "prime real estate". Even though they have Djedefre's name all over the blocks I am not convinced these boats were for Khufu either which may explain the "non-conformity" of the boat pits and also why it's Djedefre's name not Khufu's.


G1's temple and causeway are in the east. The two eastern boat pits, which are actually shaped like boats, sit exactly where one (me anyways) would expect a pharaoh to place his funerary boats- not only symmetrically flanking his temple and the entrance to his supposed "tomb", but also the direction of the rising sun, RA, which the pharaoh would have been resurrected by each day to journey on his solar barque to the heavens. This is the prime real estate, not the southern side.

The fact these boats are found to the south, with no relation to anything as far as I am aware, makes me further believe they were not originally intended as boat pits, but also that the boats found there were not meant for Khufu at all.

What is also interesting to me, though there are early Dynastic boat burials at Saqqara, to my knowledge there are none associated with Djoser's step pyramid or the 3rd Dynasty. If correct, a glaring omission of tradition I would say. Boat burials are suggested to have been found at least until the end of the 2nd Dynasty with some at Abydos attributed to Khasekhemwy, but there is no direct evidence for this and is just as likely they predate him. No boat burials are found directly related to the Bent, Red, or Meidum pyramids either. There is one at Abu Roash (though I do not believe this is a pyramid and is older than the 4th Dynasty), which again we find Djedefre (the first pharaoh to incorporate RE/RA into his name). Despite this apparent gap in tradition, from Giza into the 6th Dynasty there are several boat burials associated with pyramids. I would have to research this further,but it would appear a bit of a "boat burial revival" occurred for some reason during the time of Djedefre. Hmm.

> And what could have
> possibly happened midstream that caused such a
> major decision to relegate those same
> non-conforming pits to suddenly serve as royal
> boat pits?

Maybe it didn't. Personally, I do not believe the great pyramids were built by one pharaoh for one pharaoh nor that construction was started and completed within each pharaoh's reign. Assuming the southern pits were built during the beginnings of construction, by the time it was completed, perhaps a century or two later, not to mention however long after Khufu's death during during Djedefre's reign, these pits may have merely served as a place of opportunity for Djedefre to bury boats.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 13-Sep-16 04:36 by Thanos5150.

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Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 4732 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 03:30
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 852 eyeofhorus33 04-Sep-16 06:28
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 785 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 19:18
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 832 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 08:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 835 DUNE 04-Sep-16 10:12
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 798 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 10:24
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 817 DUNE 04-Sep-16 10:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 726 DUNE 04-Sep-16 11:22
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 814 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 18:16
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 728 DUNE 04-Sep-16 18:23
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 748 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 18:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 756 cladking 04-Sep-16 21:02
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 644 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 21:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 770 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 06:09
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 689 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 16:24
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 774 Jon Ellison 05-Sep-16 17:14
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 655 cladking 05-Sep-16 22:10
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 786 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 11:26
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 814 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 17:03
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 602 Steve Clayton 04-Sep-16 18:25
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 774 Steve Clayton 04-Sep-16 18:55
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 706 cladking 04-Sep-16 20:21
Boats R Us 639 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:16
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 726 jamesglory 08-Sep-16 06:06
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 635 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 18:09
Re: Khufu's Boats used in their Pits 669 DScribr 09-Sep-16 18:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 739 jamesglory 16-Sep-16 05:45
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 734 jamesglory 26-Sep-16 13:22
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 623 cladking 26-Sep-16 14:17
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 592 Thanos5150 27-Sep-16 00:17
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 788 jamesglory 27-Sep-16 06:43
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 752 Thanos5150 27-Sep-16 17:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 615 DUNE 15-Oct-16 10:58
Khufu I/Block 20 535 Dr. Troglodyte 15-Oct-16 18:13
Re: Khufu I/Block 20 645 Thanos5150 15-Oct-16 21:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 644 Origyptian 18-Oct-16 00:02
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 624 DUNE 18-Oct-16 07:56
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 669 Thanos5150 18-Oct-16 16:50
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 551 DUNE 18-Oct-16 17:00
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 711 Thanos5150 18-Oct-16 17:36
Re: Khufu's Boats-to be built by others..... 724 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:07
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 777 cladking 04-Sep-16 20:26
Re: Water erosion 845 Thunderbird 05-Sep-16 14:36
Re: Water erosion 654 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 16:18
Re: Water erosion 781 Steve Clayton 05-Sep-16 16:50
Re: Water erosion 597 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 17:46
Re: Water erosion 728 Steve Clayton 05-Sep-16 22:12
Re: Water erosion 644 Steve Clayton 05-Sep-16 16:58
Re: Water erosion 628 eyeofhorus33 05-Sep-16 17:29
Re: Water erosion 691 Merrell 05-Sep-16 17:46
Re:Control the conversation.....tantrum. ... 719 Thunderbird 05-Sep-16 20:14
Re: Re:Control the conversation.....tantrum. ... 722 Martin Stower 05-Sep-16 20:55
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 698 Thunderbird 06-Sep-16 04:57
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 713 Martin Stower 06-Sep-16 21:06
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 625 cladking 06-Sep-16 21:51
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 735 Jon Ellison 06-Sep-16 21:56
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 712 Martin Stower 06-Sep-16 23:21
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 640 cladking 07-Sep-16 00:11
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 529 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:23
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 655 cladking 07-Sep-16 19:07
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 651 DScribr 08-Sep-16 01:17
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 712 cladking 08-Sep-16 13:39
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 644 Origyptian 08-Sep-16 23:56
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 581 cladking 09-Sep-16 00:52
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 599 Martin Stower 06-Sep-16 23:13
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 833 cladking 07-Sep-16 00:17
Stream of Consciousness 701 eyeofhorus33 06-Sep-16 19:33
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 677 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 12:55
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 637 cladking 06-Sep-16 14:03
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 639 Steve Clayton 06-Sep-16 17:28
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 613 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 18:08
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 617 Steve Clayton 07-Sep-16 12:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 637 cladking 07-Sep-16 14:19
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 660 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 18:23
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 653 Jon Ellison 06-Sep-16 18:34
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 682 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 19:16
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 650 Jon Ellison 06-Sep-16 23:38
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 909 Thanos5150 06-Sep-16 23:41
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 646 Steve Clayton 07-Sep-16 14:17
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 618 cladking 07-Sep-16 14:42
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 669 Steve Clayton 07-Sep-16 15:46
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 681 cladking 07-Sep-16 16:24
Galleries :: Graves 749 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Sep-16 23:33
Re: Galleries :: Graves 692 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 00:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 868 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 03:32
Re: Galleries :: Graves 660 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 13:21
Re: Galleries :: Graves 602 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 16:52
Re: Galleries :: Graves 789 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 19:00
Re: Galleries :: Graves 660 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 21:54
Re: Galleries :: Graves 635 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 23:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 666 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 23:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 641 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 05:50
Re: Galleries :: Graves 706 Thanos5150 10-Sep-16 06:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 675 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 17:29
Re: Galleries :: Graves 807 Thanos5150 10-Sep-16 21:06
Re: Galleries :: Graves 666 cladking 10-Sep-16 21:30
Re: Galleries :: Graves 759 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 15:06
Re: Galleries :: Graves 702 Thunderbird 12-Sep-16 15:36
Re: Galleries :: Graves 613 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 01:41
Re: Galleries :: Graves 672 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 02:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 690 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 04:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 803 Morten 13-Sep-16 09:05
Thanks for the link 634 DScribr 13-Sep-16 15:04
Re: Galleries :: Graves 699 DScribr 13-Sep-16 15:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 602 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 17:03
Boat Graves-one answer. 678 DScribr 13-Sep-16 17:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 581 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 02:57
Re: Galleries :: Graves 646 cladking 09-Sep-16 03:25
Close enough 679 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:02
Re: Close enough 562 cladking 09-Sep-16 21:03
Re: Close enough 676 DScribr 10-Sep-16 00:33
Re: Close enough 677 cladking 10-Sep-16 01:09
Re: Galleries :: Graves 632 Dr. Troglodyte 09-Sep-16 15:43
Re: Galleries :: Graves 615 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 18:02
It wasn't 676 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:06
Re: It wasn't 720 Origyptian 08-Sep-16 23:45
At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 645 DScribr 09-Sep-16 01:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 656 Martin Stower 09-Sep-16 12:55
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists!!! 661 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 621 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 13:06
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 719 Martin Stower 09-Sep-16 14:16
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 625 cladking 09-Sep-16 14:35
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 779 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 19:22
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 716 Jon Ellison 09-Sep-16 20:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 701 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 21:41
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 693 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 22:17
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 669 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 16:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 667 Thanos5150 10-Sep-16 21:39
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 732 DScribr 11-Sep-16 02:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 607 Thanos5150 12-Sep-16 03:27
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 952 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 01:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 641 Thanos5150 12-Sep-16 03:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 716 cladking 12-Sep-16 03:32
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 683 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 17:48
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 652 Martin Stower 12-Sep-16 20:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 638 cladking 12-Sep-16 20:49
Re: Shred of evidence : ) 665 Thunderbird 12-Sep-16 21:19
Re: Shred of evidence : ) 645 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 00:00
Sphinx 661 DScribr 13-Sep-16 00:43
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 682 Thanos5150 12-Sep-16 21:04
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 624 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 00:21
Mainstream evidence still exists.... 558 DScribr 13-Sep-16 00:46
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 613 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 04:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 620 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 04:31
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 596 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 13:27
Ergo, Adaption! 512 DScribr 13-Sep-16 15:33
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 571 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 15:52
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 668 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 16:47
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 571 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 16:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 768 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 16:58
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 561 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 18:15
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 636 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 19:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 588 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 19:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 693 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 00:38
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 576 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 02:24
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 537 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 16:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 604 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 16:32
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 630 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 19:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 614 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 20:19
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 585 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 22:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 620 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 22:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 614 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 02:12
Overruled!!! 516 DScribr 14-Sep-16 03:12
Re: Overruled!!! 647 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 03:02
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 573 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 12:19
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 593 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 17:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 626 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 22:17
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 593 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 22:22
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 607 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 22:39
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 656 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 22:51
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 649 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 00:55
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 607 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 22:30
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 519 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 22:37
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 640 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 22:32
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 565 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 23:51
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 639 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 00:56
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 548 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 01:33
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 628 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 02:34
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 598 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 12:00
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 644 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 03:30
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 605 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 15:16
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 655 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 18:39
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 608 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 22:36
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 610 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 23:17
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 630 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 23:34
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 529 Origyptian 16-Sep-16 20:37
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 700 Martin Stower 16-Sep-16 23:52
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 634 DScribr 17-Sep-16 00:45
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 704 Jon Ellison 17-Sep-16 07:45
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 637 Martin Stower 17-Sep-16 15:56
A polite and academic style of writing. 574 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:35
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 616 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 15:25
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 642 Martin Stower 17-Sep-16 16:16
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 587 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 17:59
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 624 Martin Stower 17-Sep-16 20:57
MS and DScribr are really the same person!!!.......Film @ 11. 631 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:46
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 625 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 22:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 566 Martin Stower 18-Sep-16 00:27
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 622 Thanos5150 18-Sep-16 00:52
Misleading still exists... 606 DScribr 18-Sep-16 01:26
Re: Misleading still exists... 584 randompHactor 18-Sep-16 02:45
Re: Misleading still exists... 608 Barbelo 18-Sep-16 11:32
Re: Misleading still exists... 630 DScribr 18-Sep-16 13:55
Re: Misleading still exists... 586 randompHactor 18-Sep-16 15:16
Re: Misleading still exists... 484 DScribr 18-Sep-16 19:30
Re: Misleading still exists... 597 Origyptian 18-Sep-16 20:46
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 580 Origyptian 19-Sep-16 18:45
Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 550 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:40
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 626 Origyptian 18-Sep-16 20:53
Re: STILL Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 751 DScribr 19-Sep-16 00:41
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 653 Origyptian 19-Sep-16 17:50
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 484 cladking 19-Sep-16 18:06
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 519 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:06
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 735 cladking 20-Sep-16 14:29
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 611 Jon Ellison 20-Sep-16 16:46
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 674 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:34
They were sealed during the late 4th D. 658 DScribr 20-Sep-16 17:23
Re: They were sealed during the late 4th D. 543 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:44
Re: They were sealed during the late 4th D. 698 Jon Ellison 24-Sep-16 20:03
Re: They were sealed during the late 4th D. 600 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 03:52
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 599 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:29
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 648 Thanos5150 17-Sep-16 18:01
Mainstream evidence exists... 637 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:49
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 605 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 21:56
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 598 Thanos5150 17-Sep-16 23:53
Summary perspective of el-Jarf 643 Origyptian 19-Sep-16 20:30
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 632 Martin Stower 19-Sep-16 22:55
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 619 Thanos5150 19-Sep-16 23:40
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 632 Corpuscles 20-Sep-16 00:43
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 617 Thanos5150 20-Sep-16 02:05
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 605 Corpuscles 20-Sep-16 23:50
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 614 cladking 21-Sep-16 00:38
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 585 Origyptian 20-Sep-16 05:09
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 669 Martin Stower 20-Sep-16 10:10
'The Truth' 609 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:20
Re: 'The Truth' 527 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:31
Re: 'The Truth' 642 Martin Stower 24-Sep-16 00:41
Re: 'The Truth' 637 Origyptian 24-Sep-16 17:11
Re: 'The Truth' 673 Martin Stower 24-Sep-16 19:21
Re: 'The Truth' 642 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 04:13
Re: 'The Truth' 700 Martin Stower 25-Sep-16 13:30
Re: 'The Truth' 596 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 15:45
Re: 'The Truth' 614 Martin Stower 25-Sep-16 18:15
Re: 'The Truth' 567 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 18:35
Re: 'The Truth' 579 Martin Stower 25-Sep-16 19:09
Tallet Misrepresented by Ori.......... 592 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:18
Perspective vs Fact 581 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:12
Re: Perspective vs Fact 590 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:28
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 679 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 23:20
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 610 DScribr 16-Sep-16 00:40
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 585 Origyptian 16-Sep-16 01:53
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 599 Martin Stower 16-Sep-16 14:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists...whether read-or not! 607 DScribr 16-Sep-16 15:17
Galleries Correction 594 DScribr 16-Sep-16 15:15
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 525 Martin Stower 16-Sep-16 14:24
Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 623 DScribr 14-Sep-16 03:25
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 622 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 15:15
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 627 DScribr 14-Sep-16 16:04
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 600 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 21:44
Fringe-in-denial.... .... 626 DScribr 15-Sep-16 17:34
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 521 cladking 15-Sep-16 18:35
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 506 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 19:40
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 583 cladking 15-Sep-16 19:56
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 572 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 20:53
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 592 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 22:10
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 649 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 03:06
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 564 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 09:17
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 556 DScribr 15-Sep-16 17:37
Life Unfair! 611 DScribr 15-Sep-16 17:36
Wadi el Jarf evidence exists 563 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:14
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists...or does it?!? 700 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:09
Re: It wasn't 639 Martin Stower 09-Sep-16 12:37
Got Pics? 568 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:17
Re: It wasn't 1070 M. J. Thomas 09-Sep-16 13:09
Re: It wasn't 616 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 13:26
Re: It wasn't 611 eyeofhorus33 09-Sep-16 15:54
Re: It wasn't 580 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 15:56
Re: Saqqara 653 Thunderbird 09-Sep-16 17:01
Re: Saqqara 652 cladking 09-Sep-16 17:18
Re: Djedefre. ...your Fired ! 603 Thunderbird 10-Sep-16 03:38
Re: It wasn't 565 Steve Clayton 10-Sep-16 01:08
Re: It wasn't 674 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 17:02
Re: It wasn't 762 Martin Stower 10-Sep-16 20:49
Re: It wasn't 687 Martin Stower 10-Sep-16 21:33
Re: It wasn't 605 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 00:53
Re: It wasn't 581 Martin Stower 12-Sep-16 20:43
Re: It wasn't 638 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 02:37
Re: It wasn't 649 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 14:57
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 616 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 16:20
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 608 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 16:42
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 617 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 17:18
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 558 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 18:00
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 513 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 17:30
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 573 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 18:11
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 612 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 22:12
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 593 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 23:08
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 594 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 23:26
Lifting IS Required. 651 DScribr 14-Sep-16 12:35
Re: Lifting IS Required. 515 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 16:16
Re: Lifting IS Required. 647 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 16:43
Re: Lifting IS Required. 559 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 16:51
Re: Lifting IS Required. 645 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 18:16
Re: Lifting IS Required. 598 M. J. Thomas 14-Sep-16 18:35
Re: Lifting IS Required. 579 randompHactor 14-Sep-16 19:28
Re: Lifting IS Required. 591 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 20:01
Re: Lifting IS Required. 635 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 19:03
Re: Lifting IS Required. 830 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 20:02
Re: Lifting IS Required. 593 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 20:13
Re: Lifting IS Required. 675 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 21:58
Re: Lifting IS Required. 559 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 23:18
Re: Lifting IS Required. 531 Steve Clayton 15-Sep-16 01:05
Re: Lifting IS Required. 779 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 20:38
Re: Lifting IS Required. 687 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 22:39
Re: Lifting IS Required. 429 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 23:18
Re: Lifting IS Required. 568 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 23:32
Re: Lifting IS Required. 577 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 23:55
Re: Lifting IS Required. 620 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 09:09
Re: Lifting IS Required. 602 Steve Clayton 14-Sep-16 19:42
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 556 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 17:02
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 534 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 17:38
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 542 Steve Clayton 16-Sep-16 12:38
The Pharaoh's House 594 DScribr 16-Sep-16 15:14
Water 472 D-Archer 21-Sep-16 11:28
Re: Water 567 cladking 21-Sep-16 13:37
Saw pit? 613 Apap 22-Sep-16 00:13
Great idea. 488 cladking 22-Sep-16 02:00
Re: Great idea. 605 Apap 22-Sep-16 18:22
Re: Great idea. 632 cladking 22-Sep-16 19:13
Re: Saw pit? 673 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:52


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