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Martin Stower Wrote:
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> Oh, well, clearly, the entire civilisation of
> ancient Egypt
and the entire profession of
> Egyptology
should issue a grovelling apology
> to you for ancient papyri being “tattered” and
> ancient inscriptions being preserved by chance and
> climate, contra your a priori allegation
> that “they have no business being that legible
> after all that time”.

The problem here is simple and it's not really Egyptology's fault and it certainly isn't Origyptian's fault.

The problem is that there is a virtual vacuum of evidence and every single time some little shred of evidence or a simple fact becomes known that Egyptologists want to use it to support the entire unevidenced paradigm. We found out that Merrer hauled stones to Giza in the 27th year of Khufu's reign and suddenly this scrap of data is construed as proof that the great pyramids are tombs dragged up ramps by superstitious and changeless bumpkins in 2450 BC. It is no such thing as Origyptian et al are continually trying to point out. It is just one more fact that better supports some hypotheses than others. If they really built it by hauling stones across the river (AS WAS ALREADY APPARENT) then it reduces the possibility that aliens built it. But this hardly proves the pyramid was a tomb or that Khufu reigned only 27 years. It is not evidence the tura went on last and it's not evidence that they were superstitious or used primitive means to lift stones. It supports the orthdox timeline but it doesn't prove it because they could have been merely repairing these structures.

The real problem is two-fold; Egyptologists can't argue outside their basic assumptions and they refuse to gather evidence that would show positively how these were built. Of course they are failing to gather much more evidence than merely this but I personally believe that other paths are a dead end. They won't "measure", "test", and "examine" the physical properties of the great pyramids in order to determine their nature. Since they won't perform this science we can't make the basic determinations we need to support or deny Egyptological assumptions. Indeed, they won't even release or consider data any longer unless it supports those assumptions.

We are locked into the status quo where new data can only support current beliefs.

How can Origyptian be blamed? You can say he won't accept the obvious and I see your point but once you remove all the assumptions almost nothing at all is truly obvious. The data are all open to interpretation.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12-Sep-16 20:49 by cladking.

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Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 4799 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 03:30
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 866 eyeofhorus33 04-Sep-16 06:28
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 796 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 19:18
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 842 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 08:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 845 DUNE 04-Sep-16 10:12
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 807 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 10:24
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 825 DUNE 04-Sep-16 10:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 734 DUNE 04-Sep-16 11:22
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 823 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 18:16
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 739 DUNE 04-Sep-16 18:23
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 759 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 18:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 766 cladking 04-Sep-16 21:02
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 654 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 21:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 781 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 06:09
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 703 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 16:24
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 783 Jon Ellison 05-Sep-16 17:14
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 671 cladking 05-Sep-16 22:10
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 798 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 11:26
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 824 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 17:03
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 612 Steve Clayton 04-Sep-16 18:25
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 786 Steve Clayton 04-Sep-16 18:55
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 716 cladking 04-Sep-16 20:21
Boats R Us 654 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:16
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 738 jamesglory 08-Sep-16 06:06
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 646 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 18:09
Re: Khufu's Boats used in their Pits 679 DScribr 09-Sep-16 18:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 751 jamesglory 16-Sep-16 05:45
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 747 jamesglory 26-Sep-16 13:22
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 633 cladking 26-Sep-16 14:17
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 605 Thanos5150 27-Sep-16 00:17
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 800 jamesglory 27-Sep-16 06:43
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 765 Thanos5150 27-Sep-16 17:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 626 DUNE 15-Oct-16 10:58
Khufu I/Block 20 546 Dr. Troglodyte 15-Oct-16 18:13
Re: Khufu I/Block 20 653 Thanos5150 15-Oct-16 21:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 655 Origyptian 18-Oct-16 00:02
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 634 DUNE 18-Oct-16 07:56
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 683 Thanos5150 18-Oct-16 16:50
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 562 DUNE 18-Oct-16 17:00
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 722 Thanos5150 18-Oct-16 17:36
Re: Khufu's Boats-to be built by others..... 733 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:07
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 793 cladking 04-Sep-16 20:26
Re: Water erosion 865 Thunderbird 05-Sep-16 14:36
Re: Water erosion 667 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 16:18
Re: Water erosion 792 Steve Clayton 05-Sep-16 16:50
Re: Water erosion 615 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 17:46
Re: Water erosion 745 Steve Clayton 05-Sep-16 22:12
Re: Water erosion 652 Steve Clayton 05-Sep-16 16:58
Re: Water erosion 640 eyeofhorus33 05-Sep-16 17:29
Re: Water erosion 702 Merrell 05-Sep-16 17:46
Re:Control the conversation.....tantrum. ... 732 Thunderbird 05-Sep-16 20:14
Re: Re:Control the conversation.....tantrum. ... 732 Martin Stower 05-Sep-16 20:55
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 708 Thunderbird 06-Sep-16 04:57
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 723 Martin Stower 06-Sep-16 21:06
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 635 cladking 06-Sep-16 21:51
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 748 Jon Ellison 06-Sep-16 21:56
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 724 Martin Stower 06-Sep-16 23:21
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 651 cladking 07-Sep-16 00:11
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 539 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:23
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 665 cladking 07-Sep-16 19:07
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 661 DScribr 08-Sep-16 01:17
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 721 cladking 08-Sep-16 13:39
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 653 Origyptian 08-Sep-16 23:56
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 590 cladking 09-Sep-16 00:52
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 608 Martin Stower 06-Sep-16 23:13
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 845 cladking 07-Sep-16 00:17
Stream of Consciousness 710 eyeofhorus33 06-Sep-16 19:33
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 690 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 12:55
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 647 cladking 06-Sep-16 14:03
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 649 Steve Clayton 06-Sep-16 17:28
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 624 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 18:08
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 629 Steve Clayton 07-Sep-16 12:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 647 cladking 07-Sep-16 14:19
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 672 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 18:23
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 663 Jon Ellison 06-Sep-16 18:34
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 709 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 19:16
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 661 Jon Ellison 06-Sep-16 23:38
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 920 Thanos5150 06-Sep-16 23:41
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 655 Steve Clayton 07-Sep-16 14:17
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 627 cladking 07-Sep-16 14:42
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 679 Steve Clayton 07-Sep-16 15:46
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 693 cladking 07-Sep-16 16:24
Galleries :: Graves 760 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Sep-16 23:33
Re: Galleries :: Graves 703 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 00:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 877 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 03:32
Re: Galleries :: Graves 669 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 13:21
Re: Galleries :: Graves 611 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 16:52
Re: Galleries :: Graves 799 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 19:00
Re: Galleries :: Graves 671 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 21:54
Re: Galleries :: Graves 645 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 23:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 676 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 23:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 650 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 05:50
Re: Galleries :: Graves 714 Thanos5150 10-Sep-16 06:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 683 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 17:29
Re: Galleries :: Graves 817 Thanos5150 10-Sep-16 21:06
Re: Galleries :: Graves 679 cladking 10-Sep-16 21:30
Re: Galleries :: Graves 770 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 15:06
Re: Galleries :: Graves 714 Thunderbird 12-Sep-16 15:36
Re: Galleries :: Graves 629 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 01:41
Re: Galleries :: Graves 681 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 02:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 700 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 04:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 813 Morten 13-Sep-16 09:05
Thanks for the link 644 DScribr 13-Sep-16 15:04
Re: Galleries :: Graves 711 DScribr 13-Sep-16 15:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 612 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 17:03
Boat Graves-one answer. 687 DScribr 13-Sep-16 17:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 590 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 02:57
Re: Galleries :: Graves 656 cladking 09-Sep-16 03:25
Close enough 690 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:02
Re: Close enough 574 cladking 09-Sep-16 21:03
Re: Close enough 684 DScribr 10-Sep-16 00:33
Re: Close enough 690 cladking 10-Sep-16 01:09
Re: Galleries :: Graves 641 Dr. Troglodyte 09-Sep-16 15:43
Re: Galleries :: Graves 624 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 18:02
It wasn't 686 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:06
Re: It wasn't 729 Origyptian 08-Sep-16 23:45
At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 656 DScribr 09-Sep-16 01:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 665 Martin Stower 09-Sep-16 12:55
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists!!! 671 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 630 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 13:06
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 778 Martin Stower 09-Sep-16 14:16
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 634 cladking 09-Sep-16 14:35
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 820 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 19:22
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 751 Jon Ellison 09-Sep-16 20:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 712 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 21:41
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 704 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 22:17
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 679 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 16:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 677 Thanos5150 10-Sep-16 21:39
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 744 DScribr 11-Sep-16 02:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 617 Thanos5150 12-Sep-16 03:27
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 1011 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 01:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 653 Thanos5150 12-Sep-16 03:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 750 cladking 12-Sep-16 03:32
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 696 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 17:48
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 662 Martin Stower 12-Sep-16 20:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 648 cladking 12-Sep-16 20:49
Re: Shred of evidence : ) 677 Thunderbird 12-Sep-16 21:19
Re: Shred of evidence : ) 653 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 00:00
Sphinx 669 DScribr 13-Sep-16 00:43
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 695 Thanos5150 12-Sep-16 21:04
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 635 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 00:21
Mainstream evidence still exists.... 566 DScribr 13-Sep-16 00:46
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 623 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 04:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 630 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 04:31
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 606 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 13:27
Ergo, Adaption! 527 DScribr 13-Sep-16 15:33
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 581 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 15:52
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 677 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 16:47
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 580 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 16:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 817 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 16:58
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 571 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 18:15
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 644 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 19:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 600 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 19:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 704 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 00:38
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 586 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 02:24
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 549 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 16:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 613 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 16:32
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 640 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 19:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 621 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 20:19
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 595 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 22:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 628 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 22:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 628 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 02:12
Overruled!!! 528 DScribr 14-Sep-16 03:12
Re: Overruled!!! 679 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 03:02
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 582 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 12:19
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 605 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 17:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 639 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 22:17
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 603 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 22:22
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 616 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 22:39
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 669 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 22:51
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 666 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 00:55
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 618 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 22:30
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 529 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 22:37
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 651 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 22:32
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 575 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 23:51
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 649 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 00:56
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 561 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 01:33
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 640 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 02:34
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 609 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 12:00
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 701 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 03:30
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 616 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 15:16
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 698 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 18:39
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 618 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 22:36
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 619 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 23:17
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 639 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 23:34
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 539 Origyptian 16-Sep-16 20:37
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 712 Martin Stower 16-Sep-16 23:52
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 645 DScribr 17-Sep-16 00:45
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 713 Jon Ellison 17-Sep-16 07:45
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 653 Martin Stower 17-Sep-16 15:56
A polite and academic style of writing. 587 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:35
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 624 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 15:25
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 651 Martin Stower 17-Sep-16 16:16
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 595 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 17:59
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 633 Martin Stower 17-Sep-16 20:57
MS and DScribr are really the same person!!!.......Film @ 11. 644 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:46
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 638 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 22:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 574 Martin Stower 18-Sep-16 00:27
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 643 Thanos5150 18-Sep-16 00:52
Misleading still exists... 616 DScribr 18-Sep-16 01:26
Re: Misleading still exists... 596 randompHactor 18-Sep-16 02:45
Re: Misleading still exists... 618 Barbelo 18-Sep-16 11:32
Re: Misleading still exists... 641 DScribr 18-Sep-16 13:55
Re: Misleading still exists... 597 randompHactor 18-Sep-16 15:16
Re: Misleading still exists... 498 DScribr 18-Sep-16 19:30
Re: Misleading still exists... 605 Origyptian 18-Sep-16 20:46
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 596 Origyptian 19-Sep-16 18:45
Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 562 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:40
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 636 Origyptian 18-Sep-16 20:53
Re: STILL Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 760 DScribr 19-Sep-16 00:41
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 661 Origyptian 19-Sep-16 17:50
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 495 cladking 19-Sep-16 18:06
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 528 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:06
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 776 cladking 20-Sep-16 14:29
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 627 Jon Ellison 20-Sep-16 16:46
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 686 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:34
They were sealed during the late 4th D. 668 DScribr 20-Sep-16 17:23
Re: They were sealed during the late 4th D. 555 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:44
Re: They were sealed during the late 4th D. 709 Jon Ellison 24-Sep-16 20:03
Re: They were sealed during the late 4th D. 613 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 03:52
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 609 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:29
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 660 Thanos5150 17-Sep-16 18:01
Mainstream evidence exists... 647 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:49
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 626 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 21:56
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 612 Thanos5150 17-Sep-16 23:53
Summary perspective of el-Jarf 654 Origyptian 19-Sep-16 20:30
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 651 Martin Stower 19-Sep-16 22:55
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 629 Thanos5150 19-Sep-16 23:40
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 640 Corpuscles 20-Sep-16 00:43
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 627 Thanos5150 20-Sep-16 02:05
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 615 Corpuscles 20-Sep-16 23:50
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 627 cladking 21-Sep-16 00:38
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 601 Origyptian 20-Sep-16 05:09
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 677 Martin Stower 20-Sep-16 10:10
'The Truth' 619 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:20
Re: 'The Truth' 535 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:31
Re: 'The Truth' 651 Martin Stower 24-Sep-16 00:41
Re: 'The Truth' 650 Origyptian 24-Sep-16 17:11
Re: 'The Truth' 681 Martin Stower 24-Sep-16 19:21
Re: 'The Truth' 650 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 04:13
Re: 'The Truth' 754 Martin Stower 25-Sep-16 13:30
Re: 'The Truth' 603 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 15:45
Re: 'The Truth' 622 Martin Stower 25-Sep-16 18:15
Re: 'The Truth' 576 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 18:35
Re: 'The Truth' 587 Martin Stower 25-Sep-16 19:09
Tallet Misrepresented by Ori.......... 600 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:18
Perspective vs Fact 590 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:12
Re: Perspective vs Fact 599 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:28
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 688 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 23:20
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 622 DScribr 16-Sep-16 00:40
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 596 Origyptian 16-Sep-16 01:53
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 607 Martin Stower 16-Sep-16 14:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists...whether read-or not! 621 DScribr 16-Sep-16 15:17
Galleries Correction 605 DScribr 16-Sep-16 15:15
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 536 Martin Stower 16-Sep-16 14:24
Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 646 DScribr 14-Sep-16 03:25
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 633 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 15:15
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 638 DScribr 14-Sep-16 16:04
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 613 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 21:44
Fringe-in-denial.... .... 635 DScribr 15-Sep-16 17:34
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 532 cladking 15-Sep-16 18:35
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 516 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 19:40
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 595 cladking 15-Sep-16 19:56
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 583 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 20:53
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 601 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 22:10
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 661 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 03:06
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 576 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 09:17
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 565 DScribr 15-Sep-16 17:37
Life Unfair! 621 DScribr 15-Sep-16 17:36
Wadi el Jarf evidence exists 574 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:14
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists...or does it?!? 746 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:09
Re: It wasn't 649 Martin Stower 09-Sep-16 12:37
Got Pics? 577 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:17
Re: It wasn't 1081 M. J. Thomas 09-Sep-16 13:09
Re: It wasn't 625 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 13:26
Re: It wasn't 621 eyeofhorus33 09-Sep-16 15:54
Re: It wasn't 627 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 15:56
Re: Saqqara 662 Thunderbird 09-Sep-16 17:01
Re: Saqqara 659 cladking 09-Sep-16 17:18
Re: Djedefre. ...your Fired ! 614 Thunderbird 10-Sep-16 03:38
Re: It wasn't 573 Steve Clayton 10-Sep-16 01:08
Re: It wasn't 683 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 17:02
Re: It wasn't 770 Martin Stower 10-Sep-16 20:49
Re: It wasn't 702 Martin Stower 10-Sep-16 21:33
Re: It wasn't 613 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 00:53
Re: It wasn't 590 Martin Stower 12-Sep-16 20:43
Re: It wasn't 645 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 02:37
Re: It wasn't 659 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 14:57
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 625 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 16:20
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 619 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 16:42
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 625 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 17:18
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 567 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 18:00
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 520 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 17:30
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 583 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 18:11
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 624 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 22:12
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 603 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 23:08
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 607 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 23:26
Lifting IS Required. 663 DScribr 14-Sep-16 12:35
Re: Lifting IS Required. 528 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 16:16
Re: Lifting IS Required. 657 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 16:43
Re: Lifting IS Required. 572 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 16:51
Re: Lifting IS Required. 655 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 18:16
Re: Lifting IS Required. 635 M. J. Thomas 14-Sep-16 18:35
Re: Lifting IS Required. 590 randompHactor 14-Sep-16 19:28
Re: Lifting IS Required. 602 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 20:01
Re: Lifting IS Required. 645 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 19:03
Re: Lifting IS Required. 942 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 20:02
Re: Lifting IS Required. 629 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 20:13
Re: Lifting IS Required. 688 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 21:58
Re: Lifting IS Required. 567 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 23:18
Re: Lifting IS Required. 546 Steve Clayton 15-Sep-16 01:05
Re: Lifting IS Required. 789 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 20:38
Re: Lifting IS Required. 698 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 22:39
Re: Lifting IS Required. 441 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 23:18
Re: Lifting IS Required. 577 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 23:32
Re: Lifting IS Required. 587 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 23:55
Re: Lifting IS Required. 630 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 09:09
Re: Lifting IS Required. 612 Steve Clayton 14-Sep-16 19:42
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 566 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 17:02
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 543 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 17:38
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 554 Steve Clayton 16-Sep-16 12:38
The Pharaoh's House 604 DScribr 16-Sep-16 15:14
Water 480 D-Archer 21-Sep-16 11:28
Re: Water 575 cladking 21-Sep-16 13:37
Saw pit? 624 Apap 22-Sep-16 00:13
Great idea. 497 cladking 22-Sep-16 02:00
Re: Great idea. 615 Apap 22-Sep-16 18:22
Re: Great idea. 641 cladking 22-Sep-16 19:13
Re: Saw pit? 680 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:52


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