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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
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> > > Thanos5150 Wrote:
>
> > > ...none of these storage galleries
> > > were made for complete boats...
>
> > There's no evidence that precludes the possibility
> > that those galleries may have been used to house
> > disassembled boats.
>
> Since when is "no evidence that precludes a
> possibility" of something evidence of that
> something? Is this one of your "higher standards
> of proof"?

Tallet clearly states:

    "...but we found hundreds of pieces of wood, fragments of oars, and sections of ropes that proves big boats were originally stored in those caves."

And in support of that I simply stated that there's no evidence that contradicts that possibility. I was contrasing "disassembled" with your use of "complete" just to be sure you knew I wasn't suggesting that assembled boats were placed inside those galleries.



> Previously, however, you questioned why they would
> not bury the Giza boats in one piece trying to
> cast doubt on the provenance of the boats and/or
> pits, yet now because they may have stored
> disassembled boats in maritime storage galleries
> to this somehow support your other doubt mongering
> question of "why bury the boats in a pit covered
> by blocks instead of an underground chamber"?

I was only suggesting that since Tallet has proposed that boats were placed in those galleries, and that that he dated those galleries to the time of construction of G1, that it would not be unreasonable to proposed that the boat pits around G1 might just as well have been similarly constructed galleries rather than open trenches with 40 monoliths, each weighing 15 tons, comprising the lid. I was simply addressing an issue of logical inconsistency in that argument and not what actually happened. And I realize you are trying to draw a distinction between a "grave" and "storage", but King Tut wasn't "stored" in KV62. Graves certainly can be caves and need not be relegated to open trenches covered with 600 tons of hewn megaliths.

But having said that, I personally think neither is actually the case: I highly doubt the Tallet's proposed provenance of the el-Jarf galleries and I highly doubt G1's southern pits were originally designed as "graves" for royal boats.



> These are boat graves, not storage galleries.

Says you and many traditionalists. I acknowledge it's possible those pits may have been used as boat "graves" at some point in time after those pits were hewn, but I see no compelling logic to the notion that they were originally designed to be boat graves. And nothing about the evidence there seems to preclude adaption, especially the keystones and slanted end ramp which, if anything, would direct runoff water into the pit rather than away from it...



...not to mention that many of the 35 known boat pits are tapered at the ends and not rectangular, several have concave floors while others' are flat, and some have multiple tiered "shelves" around the perimeter rather than a single ledge to support roof beams, and then there's that very wide "boat pit" east of G1 that couldn't possibly span beams of limestone without cracking unless suspended by pillars (for which there is no evidence).



> > The galleries
> > were already breached and essentially picked clean
> > by the time Tallet arrived. Tallet claimed those
> > galleries likely served as a kind of
> > long/short-term storage bins, but that's pure speculation.
>
> No it is not "pure speculation". There are other
> examples of maritime storage galleries very
> similar to these found at harbors elsewhere along
> the Red Sea later which there is direct evidence
> of this being their purpose and everything about
> Wadi al-Jarf says it is no different.

OK, I should have said there's no proof they were originally designed for storage. There's no proof they were hewn in the 3rd millennium BC. And I highly doubt those painted glyphs survived 4500 years on those limestone blocks out there in the open when the glyphs found in the 1st boat pit are already "almost illegible" after exposed to the atmosphere for only 25 years despite being coated with polyvinyl-acetate preservatative and with boards protecting them from the weather.

I'd love to hear how the provenance of the original caves was determined other than by association with those painted glyphs and stray fragments of papyrus which have all been openly accessible by anyone indefinitely. As far as I can tell, the erosion in those caves suggest a far older age.

Their use as a storage system cannot be ruled out as adaption. The evidence supports adaption and nothing significantly contradicts adaption.



> So in just one post you have used what you
> perceive as the lack of evidence as positive
> support of something that you want to be true and
> the same "lack of evidence" to support a negative
> of something you do not want to be true.

Again, you misinterpreted my post. It's one thing to contend there is evidence of something, and an another thing to say there also isn't any evidence to contradict that contention. For example, it's one thing to say the presence of al Mamoun's tunnel is evidence that he excavated his way into G1. However, that the main entrance was reported to have been accessed earlier by Romans and is located at a higher level than Mamoun's tunnel seems to contradict the "he dug into G1" contention.



> Which does not end however as in the very next
> sentence you argue the exact opposite of what you
> just said against Tallet:
>
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And after all, those galleries are located
> relatively close to the harbor where one would
> expect to find boats in
> storage along with other things nautical.
>
> You seem to be having quite an argument with yourself.

I'm not arguing with myself. I'm simply pointing out what I consider to be inconsistencies in the orthodox argument.

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Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 4630 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 03:30
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 830 eyeofhorus33 04-Sep-16 06:28
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 761 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 19:18
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 811 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 08:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 812 DUNE 04-Sep-16 10:12
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 776 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 10:24
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 793 DUNE 04-Sep-16 10:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 704 DUNE 04-Sep-16 11:22
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 793 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 18:16
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 705 DUNE 04-Sep-16 18:23
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 726 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 18:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 733 cladking 04-Sep-16 21:02
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 621 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 21:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 750 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 06:09
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 665 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 16:24
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 751 Jon Ellison 05-Sep-16 17:14
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 633 cladking 05-Sep-16 22:10
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 764 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 11:26
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 790 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 17:03
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 578 Steve Clayton 04-Sep-16 18:25
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 750 Steve Clayton 04-Sep-16 18:55
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 684 cladking 04-Sep-16 20:21
Boats R Us 615 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:16
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 700 jamesglory 08-Sep-16 06:06
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 615 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 18:09
Re: Khufu's Boats used in their Pits 647 DScribr 09-Sep-16 18:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 713 jamesglory 16-Sep-16 05:45
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 708 jamesglory 26-Sep-16 13:22
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 599 cladking 26-Sep-16 14:17
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 567 Thanos5150 27-Sep-16 00:17
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 761 jamesglory 27-Sep-16 06:43
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 729 Thanos5150 27-Sep-16 17:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 594 DUNE 15-Oct-16 10:58
Khufu I/Block 20 511 Dr. Troglodyte 15-Oct-16 18:13
Re: Khufu I/Block 20 622 Thanos5150 15-Oct-16 21:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 622 Origyptian 18-Oct-16 00:02
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 604 DUNE 18-Oct-16 07:56
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 647 Thanos5150 18-Oct-16 16:50
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 531 DUNE 18-Oct-16 17:00
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 687 Thanos5150 18-Oct-16 17:36
Re: Khufu's Boats-to be built by others..... 701 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:07
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 754 cladking 04-Sep-16 20:26
Re: Water erosion 822 Thunderbird 05-Sep-16 14:36
Re: Water erosion 631 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 16:18
Re: Water erosion 756 Steve Clayton 05-Sep-16 16:50
Re: Water erosion 574 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 17:46
Re: Water erosion 708 Steve Clayton 05-Sep-16 22:12
Re: Water erosion 622 Steve Clayton 05-Sep-16 16:58
Re: Water erosion 606 eyeofhorus33 05-Sep-16 17:29
Re: Water erosion 669 Merrell 05-Sep-16 17:46
Re:Control the conversation.....tantrum. ... 698 Thunderbird 05-Sep-16 20:14
Re: Re:Control the conversation.....tantrum. ... 698 Martin Stower 05-Sep-16 20:55
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 674 Thunderbird 06-Sep-16 04:57
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 691 Martin Stower 06-Sep-16 21:06
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 603 cladking 06-Sep-16 21:51
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 714 Jon Ellison 06-Sep-16 21:56
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 689 Martin Stower 06-Sep-16 23:21
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 620 cladking 07-Sep-16 00:11
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 508 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:23
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 633 cladking 07-Sep-16 19:07
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 630 DScribr 08-Sep-16 01:17
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 670 cladking 08-Sep-16 13:39
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 621 Origyptian 08-Sep-16 23:56
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 558 cladking 09-Sep-16 00:52
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 576 Martin Stower 06-Sep-16 23:13
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 785 cladking 07-Sep-16 00:17
Stream of Consciousness 680 eyeofhorus33 06-Sep-16 19:33
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 653 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 12:55
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 614 cladking 06-Sep-16 14:03
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 619 Steve Clayton 06-Sep-16 17:28
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 590 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 18:08
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 594 Steve Clayton 07-Sep-16 12:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 616 cladking 07-Sep-16 14:19
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 639 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 18:23
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 630 Jon Ellison 06-Sep-16 18:34
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 641 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 19:16
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 628 Jon Ellison 06-Sep-16 23:38
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 883 Thanos5150 06-Sep-16 23:41
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 623 Steve Clayton 07-Sep-16 14:17
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 593 cladking 07-Sep-16 14:42
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 646 Steve Clayton 07-Sep-16 15:46
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 661 cladking 07-Sep-16 16:24
Galleries :: Graves 688 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Sep-16 23:33
Re: Galleries :: Graves 668 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 00:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 845 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 03:32
Re: Galleries :: Graves 637 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 13:21
Re: Galleries :: Graves 580 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 16:52
Re: Galleries :: Graves 766 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 19:00
Re: Galleries :: Graves 637 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 21:54
Re: Galleries :: Graves 613 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 23:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 644 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 23:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 617 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 05:50
Re: Galleries :: Graves 683 Thanos5150 10-Sep-16 06:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 651 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 17:29
Re: Galleries :: Graves 779 Thanos5150 10-Sep-16 21:06
Re: Galleries :: Graves 644 cladking 10-Sep-16 21:30
Re: Galleries :: Graves 736 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 15:06
Re: Galleries :: Graves 680 Thunderbird 12-Sep-16 15:36
Re: Galleries :: Graves 589 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 01:41
Re: Galleries :: Graves 650 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 02:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 668 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 04:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 780 Morten 13-Sep-16 09:05
Thanks for the link 611 DScribr 13-Sep-16 15:04
Re: Galleries :: Graves 676 DScribr 13-Sep-16 15:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 583 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 17:03
Boat Graves-one answer. 653 DScribr 13-Sep-16 17:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 558 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 02:57
Re: Galleries :: Graves 625 cladking 09-Sep-16 03:25
Close enough 655 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:02
Re: Close enough 541 cladking 09-Sep-16 21:03
Re: Close enough 653 DScribr 10-Sep-16 00:33
Re: Close enough 653 cladking 10-Sep-16 01:09
Re: Galleries :: Graves 611 Dr. Troglodyte 09-Sep-16 15:43
Re: Galleries :: Graves 592 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 18:02
It wasn't 654 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:06
Re: It wasn't 695 Origyptian 08-Sep-16 23:45
At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 621 DScribr 09-Sep-16 01:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 634 Martin Stower 09-Sep-16 12:55
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists!!! 610 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 596 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 13:06
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 647 Martin Stower 09-Sep-16 14:16
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 604 cladking 09-Sep-16 14:35
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 705 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 19:22
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 659 Jon Ellison 09-Sep-16 20:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 678 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 21:41
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 669 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 22:17
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 644 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 16:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 643 Thanos5150 10-Sep-16 21:39
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 709 DScribr 11-Sep-16 02:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 584 Thanos5150 12-Sep-16 03:27
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 851 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 01:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 617 Thanos5150 12-Sep-16 03:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 664 cladking 12-Sep-16 03:32
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 655 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 17:48
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 631 Martin Stower 12-Sep-16 20:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 616 cladking 12-Sep-16 20:49
Re: Shred of evidence : ) 646 Thunderbird 12-Sep-16 21:19
Re: Shred of evidence : ) 623 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 00:00
Sphinx 635 DScribr 13-Sep-16 00:43
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 661 Thanos5150 12-Sep-16 21:04
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 604 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 00:21
Mainstream evidence still exists.... 537 DScribr 13-Sep-16 00:46
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 591 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 04:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 601 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 04:31
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 575 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 13:27
Ergo, Adaption! 491 DScribr 13-Sep-16 15:33
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 551 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 15:52
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 614 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 16:47
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 549 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 16:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 612 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 16:58
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 539 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 18:15
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 612 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 19:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 566 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 19:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 614 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 00:38
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 554 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 02:24
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 517 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 16:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 584 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 16:32
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 609 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 19:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 593 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 20:19
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 565 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 22:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 599 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 22:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 593 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 02:12
Overruled!!! 495 DScribr 14-Sep-16 03:12
Re: Overruled!!! 627 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 03:02
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 551 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 12:19
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 572 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 17:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 603 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 22:17
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 571 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 22:22
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 585 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 22:39
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 636 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 22:51
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 629 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 00:55
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 585 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 22:30
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 497 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 22:37
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 619 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 22:32
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 544 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 23:51
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 616 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 00:56
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 525 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 01:33
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 606 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 02:34
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 576 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 12:00
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 616 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 03:30
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 584 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 15:16
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 577 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 18:39
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 585 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 22:36
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 590 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 23:17
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 608 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 23:34
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 509 Origyptian 16-Sep-16 20:37
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 676 Martin Stower 16-Sep-16 23:52
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 614 DScribr 17-Sep-16 00:45
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 684 Jon Ellison 17-Sep-16 07:45
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 587 Martin Stower 17-Sep-16 15:56
A polite and academic style of writing. 554 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:35
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 594 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 15:25
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 621 Martin Stower 17-Sep-16 16:16
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 565 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 17:59
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 603 Martin Stower 17-Sep-16 20:57
MS and DScribr are really the same person!!!.......Film @ 11. 611 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:46
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 604 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 22:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 542 Martin Stower 18-Sep-16 00:27
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 595 Thanos5150 18-Sep-16 00:52
Misleading still exists... 583 DScribr 18-Sep-16 01:26
Re: Misleading still exists... 558 randompHactor 18-Sep-16 02:45
Re: Misleading still exists... 582 Barbelo 18-Sep-16 11:32
Re: Misleading still exists... 609 DScribr 18-Sep-16 13:55
Re: Misleading still exists... 565 randompHactor 18-Sep-16 15:16
Re: Misleading still exists... 462 DScribr 18-Sep-16 19:30
Re: Misleading still exists... 575 Origyptian 18-Sep-16 20:46
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 561 Origyptian 19-Sep-16 18:45
Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 530 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:40
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 605 Origyptian 18-Sep-16 20:53
Re: STILL Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 729 DScribr 19-Sep-16 00:41
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 623 Origyptian 19-Sep-16 17:50
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 465 cladking 19-Sep-16 18:06
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 498 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:06
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 666 cladking 20-Sep-16 14:29
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 590 Jon Ellison 20-Sep-16 16:46
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 652 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:34
They were sealed during the late 4th D. 635 DScribr 20-Sep-16 17:23
Re: They were sealed during the late 4th D. 522 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:44
Re: They were sealed during the late 4th D. 678 Jon Ellison 24-Sep-16 20:03
Re: They were sealed during the late 4th D. 580 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 03:52
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 578 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:29
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 584 Thanos5150 17-Sep-16 18:01
Mainstream evidence exists... 617 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:49
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 585 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 21:56
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 576 Thanos5150 17-Sep-16 23:53
Summary perspective of el-Jarf 585 Origyptian 19-Sep-16 20:30
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 607 Martin Stower 19-Sep-16 22:55
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 598 Thanos5150 19-Sep-16 23:40
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 610 Corpuscles 20-Sep-16 00:43
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 598 Thanos5150 20-Sep-16 02:05
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 584 Corpuscles 20-Sep-16 23:50
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 593 cladking 21-Sep-16 00:38
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 564 Origyptian 20-Sep-16 05:09
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 643 Martin Stower 20-Sep-16 10:10
'The Truth' 587 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:20
Re: 'The Truth' 504 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:31
Re: 'The Truth' 620 Martin Stower 24-Sep-16 00:41
Re: 'The Truth' 615 Origyptian 24-Sep-16 17:11
Re: 'The Truth' 650 Martin Stower 24-Sep-16 19:21
Re: 'The Truth' 622 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 04:13
Re: 'The Truth' 630 Martin Stower 25-Sep-16 13:30
Re: 'The Truth' 574 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 15:45
Re: 'The Truth' 581 Martin Stower 25-Sep-16 18:15
Re: 'The Truth' 546 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 18:35
Re: 'The Truth' 556 Martin Stower 25-Sep-16 19:09
Tallet Misrepresented by Ori.......... 570 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:18
Perspective vs Fact 560 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:12
Re: Perspective vs Fact 569 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:28
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 624 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 23:20
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 586 DScribr 16-Sep-16 00:40
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 564 Origyptian 16-Sep-16 01:53
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 578 Martin Stower 16-Sep-16 14:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists...whether read-or not! 586 DScribr 16-Sep-16 15:17
Galleries Correction 569 DScribr 16-Sep-16 15:15
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 503 Martin Stower 16-Sep-16 14:24
Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 549 DScribr 14-Sep-16 03:25
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 598 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 15:15
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 605 DScribr 14-Sep-16 16:04
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 577 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 21:44
Fringe-in-denial.... .... 605 DScribr 15-Sep-16 17:34
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 500 cladking 15-Sep-16 18:35
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 484 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 19:40
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 562 cladking 15-Sep-16 19:56
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 550 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 20:53
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 569 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 22:10
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 628 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 03:06
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 544 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 09:17
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 535 DScribr 15-Sep-16 17:37
Life Unfair! 590 DScribr 15-Sep-16 17:36
Wadi el Jarf evidence exists 543 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:14
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists...or does it?!? 677 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:09
Re: It wasn't 618 Martin Stower 09-Sep-16 12:37
Got Pics? 547 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:17
Re: It wasn't 958 M. J. Thomas 09-Sep-16 13:09
Re: It wasn't 593 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 13:26
Re: It wasn't 588 eyeofhorus33 09-Sep-16 15:54
Re: It wasn't 526 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 15:56
Re: Saqqara 631 Thunderbird 09-Sep-16 17:01
Re: Saqqara 631 cladking 09-Sep-16 17:18
Re: Djedefre. ...your Fired ! 583 Thunderbird 10-Sep-16 03:38
Re: It wasn't 545 Steve Clayton 10-Sep-16 01:08
Re: It wasn't 651 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 17:02
Re: It wasn't 736 Martin Stower 10-Sep-16 20:49
Re: It wasn't 663 Martin Stower 10-Sep-16 21:33
Re: It wasn't 580 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 00:53
Re: It wasn't 558 Martin Stower 12-Sep-16 20:43
Re: It wasn't 616 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 02:37
Re: It wasn't 583 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 14:57
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 596 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 16:20
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 587 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 16:42
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 596 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 17:18
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 535 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 18:00
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 491 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 17:30
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 549 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 18:11
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 591 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 22:12
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 571 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 23:08
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 560 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 23:26
Lifting IS Required. 631 DScribr 14-Sep-16 12:35
Re: Lifting IS Required. 494 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 16:16
Re: Lifting IS Required. 625 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 16:43
Re: Lifting IS Required. 540 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 16:51
Re: Lifting IS Required. 624 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 18:16
Re: Lifting IS Required. 568 M. J. Thomas 14-Sep-16 18:35
Re: Lifting IS Required. 560 randompHactor 14-Sep-16 19:28
Re: Lifting IS Required. 570 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 20:01
Re: Lifting IS Required. 613 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 19:03
Re: Lifting IS Required. 729 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 20:02
Re: Lifting IS Required. 572 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 20:13
Re: Lifting IS Required. 655 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 21:58
Re: Lifting IS Required. 536 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 23:18
Re: Lifting IS Required. 510 Steve Clayton 15-Sep-16 01:05
Re: Lifting IS Required. 752 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 20:38
Re: Lifting IS Required. 666 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 22:39
Re: Lifting IS Required. 409 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 23:18
Re: Lifting IS Required. 546 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 23:32
Re: Lifting IS Required. 556 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 23:55
Re: Lifting IS Required. 600 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 09:09
Re: Lifting IS Required. 580 Steve Clayton 14-Sep-16 19:42
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 537 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 17:02
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 514 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 17:38
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 523 Steve Clayton 16-Sep-16 12:38
The Pharaoh's House 572 DScribr 16-Sep-16 15:14
Water 448 D-Archer 21-Sep-16 11:28
Re: Water 544 cladking 21-Sep-16 13:37
Saw pit? 591 Apap 22-Sep-16 00:13
Great idea. 465 cladking 22-Sep-16 02:00
Re: Great idea. 584 Apap 22-Sep-16 18:22
Re: Great idea. 610 cladking 22-Sep-16 19:13
Re: Saw pit? 651 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:52


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