> Origyptian Wrote:
> > As I said in an earlier post, I disagree with
> > premise of the OP.
> This is what you say every time the question is
> asked which is why the OP assumes for sake of
> argument you are correct. The AE did none of these
> things so therefore what is the evidence to
> support the belief these artifacts were made by
> someone else prior to 4,000BC? So far no one has
> yet to come up with a single example not to
> mention seem incapable of even comprehending the
Those of us working on an alternative
> history of humanity need to hold ourselves to
> standards of evidence AT LEAST AS HIGH as is
> demanded of mainstream scholars if we are ever to
> get history rewritten. Graham Hancock.
> Is there no one capable of answering the call?
The positive physical evidence is the very monument construction that you are OP'ing about: The pyramids, "temples", "boxes", tunnels, etc., that I believe the evidence suggests were likely already ancient in Dynastic times.
Many millions of tons of masonry, impossible to achieve with the technology thought to be available to the known cultures of that time, erected along a huge span of the Nile, and it all already is there at the beginning of the Dynastic era. No such construction comes close to the quality of that early construction during the remaining millennia up to the 21st century. There is simply no evidence that any known post-Ice Age culture, be it the Mesopotamians, Hyksos, Egyptians, Sumerians, Romans, Greeks, etc. had anything close to the wherewithal to do that kind of work. There is a huge collective volume of artifacts and documentation from those known cultures and none of it speaks of the ability to do that work, the appreciation of what's involved in doing that work, or even a simple acknowledgement that the work was actually done. In such a case, the absence of evidence of a specific capability among an abundance of evidence of other known capabilities may indeed be construed as evidence of absence of that specific capability.
There are tool marks and workmanship that defy the capabilities of any known culture. The enormous granite megaliths, the extreme precision of large scale construction, the challenge of transporting such construction components; it's an enormously complex undertaking in project management to create all those monolithic structures immediately before the Dynastic era; it is still among the most aggressive construction project in the history of the planet. The nature of the construction requires engineering concepts, math, chemistry, physics, logistics, and language that didn't exist in any known culture based on the enormous body of evidence we have from those cultures, and which must have taken centuries to develop and many more centuries for any evidence of such knowledge to be completely obliterated from any culture in that part of the world as the Dynastic era began.
That such a sophisticated culture had the time to develop all that capability in language, math, chemistry, physics, geology, engineering, logistics, agriculture, animal domestication, education, law enforcement, healthcare, civil infrastructure, etc. already in the 5th millennium BC which was then summarily and completely forgotten to the point of not leaving the subsequent cultlure a single shred of evidence of what they accomplished, or even an indication that any ancient civilization actually noticed that those structures existed, provides a very strong rationale that those things were manufacture far earlier than we were led to believe, their knowledge, memories, and accomplishments long gone in some distant era.
The point isn't whether we have a reason to believe the original structures were built so long ago, the point is that there isn't a reason to believe it could not have been done that long ago.
None of this is new; we've discussed these same issues many times here.
I don't know what more you are trying extract from the group.
How can any of us ever know, when all we can do is think?