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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> My understanding of all things biological being
> considerably on the negative side of zero.
>
> With reference to the elongated skull
> variety/species/flavour/type of individual of the
> type brought to our attention by BF.
> Allegedly in addition to the increase in cranial
> capacity, one suture is absent along with rearward
> displacement of the spine and additional nerve
> apertures being present.
>
> Is there the possibility that these individuals
> had a quite different perception of the world
> around them, and/or the ability to sense in a way
> quite unlike our own?

I guess as long as we include "elongated" in our posts, we can't be accused of deflecting too much, eh? I mention it 6 more times, below...

It never ceases to amaze me how resistant so many people are to the notion that modern mankind might not be the smartest creature to have ever walked the earth. People see all of those ancient ruins with inexplicable design, engineering, and purpose, and they either look the other way or just hold their nose and make something up to hand wave it in the abstract. They conveniently neglect to consider the details that tend to fairly neatly neutralize their contrived narrative. And so they simply contend that such accomplishments simply are examples of the power of ideological "belief", magic, or just raw mass tenacity. But of course, decreeing that many thousands of drone workers were forced to slave away all day for months at a time hauling rocks around on wet sand and wooden sleds over a couple of centuries in an apparently limitless economy during the relatively recent Late Stone Age that offers us zero documentation of such capabilities doesn't make it so.

Likewise, even though we generally concede that enormous mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians, and insects existed over 65 million years ago, God forbid that a few species might actually have been intelligent and able to achieve some pretty amazing feats of engineering. Even today, we see those magnificent underground infrastructure "civilizations" built in Brazil by ants whose evolution hasn't progressed noticeably over millions of years but whose engineering accomplishments would put the Manhattan skyline to shame. And yet it's inconceivable to some that an equally accomplished biped mammal might have walked the earth more than, say, a mere 10k-50k years ago.

And considering how many of those enormous and extremely ancient beasts walked the earth vs. the scant evidence remaining of them today, there still seems to be some expectation that if smaller, more frail and more easily decomposing intelligent biped species walked the earth, surely there must be a plethora of evidence remaining from the distant past, as if we have been assured that we have identified samples of every other species of animalia that ever existed in the distant past.

When it comes to explaining ancient engineering that could be from a very different time 6- or 7-digit years ago, there is a double standard that allows virtually every other species permission to exist back then except for intelligent beings. What most people have a problem grasping is that there is no scientific principle that mandates intelligence to be a modern biological construct. On the contrary, if there's any generally accepted principle of Nature, is that it works in cycles, repeating patterns, waxing and waning, yinning and yanging, over and over and over again as the eons roll by.

The human gene pool is fueled with an extraordinarily wide spectrum of physical and functional attributes. A relatively delicate 80 pound petite Swedish female is able to mate (ie, genetic recombination) with a 300 pound burly power-house African male. Today "humans" can have an overly slanted brow, naturally elongated head, be incredibly attractive or repulsive, whole societies can bear white skin, blue eyes, and straight blonde hair, while other societies bear dark brown skin, brown eyes, and curly/kinky hair. Some societies are short (many adults stand under 5'), while others are quite tall (averaging close to 7'. And so what is a "typical" human in the midst of such a diverse gene pool? Meanwhile, Nature is constantly engaged in some degree of speciation as we all just try to get along (ie, "adapt").

Where is the "evidence" of the culture that built Stonehenge, the Baalbek megaliths, Gobekli, the bizarre stonework high in the Andes, etc.? Just because we don't have physical evidence of their bones, food, documents, and clothing does not mean those cultures never existed in the distant past. We don't even have direct physical evidence that the Dynastics built any of those early pyramids just a few millennia ago.

One current discussion at GHMB asks "If the pyramids aren't tombs, then where were all the pharaohs entombed?". Putting aside for the moment the question of whether the pharaohs were entombed at all (vs. cremated or had a nautical burial, or, frankly, actually existed physically), a far more important question (from my perspective) is "If the pyramids aren't tombs, then what are they?"

In truth, while investigators make assumption after assumption and then teach it as fact despite the lack of proof, we really do not know who or "what" built many of those very ancient structures found all around the world, we don't know what function those structures originally served, and we don't know when, how, or why they were built.

The enigma of the elongated head is an archetype of this basic dilemma. We see it in relatively recent Mesoamerica and also on the inscriptions of ancient Egypt from 4 millennia ago. If the elongation is artificial, due to bindings during early growth, then what is the original legend, myth, or ideology that inspired such a deliberate manipulation? What did the ancients believe or know that provoked them to disfigure their offspring in such a way? And if head elongation occurs naturally, I challenge anyone to cite a law of Nature that prohibits it from recurring throughout the various eons as Nature progressed through its relentless cycling during the 3 billion years that life is thought to have existed on Earth - that's a million years times 3,000, folks - plenty of time for any number of intelligent species to come and go that developed extreme scientific and engineering prowess the evidence of which abounds all around the globe today.

The point is that there were PLENTY of chances that intelligent beings existed with elongated heads, or were far larger than modern humans, or that intelligent beings walked the Earth who might not have originated terrestrially. There is no scientific principle that precludes any of this and plenty of scientific principle that provides for the existence of such uber-ancient beings in the distant past and explains why we have yet to identify any direct physical evidence of them here in the 21st century.

If even one of those elongated skulls are genetically authentic, this suggests that there may have been many more of them during their time, so where are the rest of them and why is the evidence so scant? And if such a gene pool existed only a few millennia ago with such scant evidence of them remaining today, then why on earth would we expect to identify any evidence at all from similar creatures that may have existed 10x or 100x earlier?

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