Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Regardless, however one wants to spin the RCD
> studies, of which over 400 samples were used of
> not just charcoal but short lived materials as
> well, one thing is for certain no matter how they
> are looked at, no matter how many were "tainted"
> or "thrown out" or whatever- there is no way to
> magically turn an average of +/- 200yrs older into
> thousands of years let alone tens of thousands. By
> the same token, as a whole this is not explained
> by "old wood" either. Egyptology is at fault for
> not accepting these dates and revising accordingly
> which at least they can take solace knowing they
> got even as close as they did.


Hi Thanos

Thankyou it was a clever (twisty) attempt at counter argument. It seems to have provided great 'fuel' for further petty squabble. Good work. ;-)
I think Egyptology IS sufficiently aware of the shortcomings of RCD, so as to completely avoid taking such results as better guide than their existing guess based on kings lists, potshards and random scribbles.

At best, all it can indicate that there was very significant human involvement in the roughly assigned periods.

You are very aware that almost all tombs, monuments etc were raided far back in antiquity. (even G7000x!) ;-)
High on G2 we see strange vertical blocks supporting upper layer seemingly repairs! When?
How many robbers would have crawled all over the pyramids especially in intermediate periods or time of conflict? Therefore in addition to nature itself, this provides considerable scope for contamination especially if talking... charcoal and reeds!
Heck, recently we saw pictures of mud brick retaining walls high on G1.

We KNOW with absolute certainty most pyramids were extended, renovated, and repurposed. The RCD is likely to roughly equivocate to the last major renovation project.
This makes Djoser, Meidum, Bent Red G1 G2 G3 and associated structures highly unlikely to be entirely the original work completed in any one kings reign.


Were the original constructions made with lots of mortar? I think not. Petrie was astonished by the magic stuff which seemed to stick casing blocks together... not traditional mortar.

Thanks for trying to set me straight, much appreciated friend!
Cheers