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Corpuscles Wrote:
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> R Avry Wilson Wrote:
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>
> > Ok ... so back to the mortar/samples taken for
> > dating? Jon, are you listening?
> >
> > Ask: If this is mortar, what was the mortar
> made
> > of? Clearly, a mortar composition would be
> of
> > local materials and water. Mudbrick 'tech' is
> very
> > well documented, so we can easily search the
> > environment to see what they would have used.
> Well
> > not charcoal. Charcoal comes from burnt wood.
> > They'd have to burn a forest to get the
> charcoal
> > to make the mortar. So they used something
> else...
> > hmmm.... like nearby straw and mud. Well what's
> in
> > this mud? Surface 'mud' material would contain
> > decomposed plant material from centuries past
> only
> > a few feet deep.
> >
> > And there we have the dates being a few hundred
> > years earlier in the samples.
> >
> > Poof.
> >
> > So, bye bye Jon.
>
> Hi Avry
>
> What was the mortar made from exactly?
What's the point of your question? We can make a pretty good guess based on materials in the surrounding area. Would you like to contact the institutes with the samples and have them conduct spectrometry tests? Be my guest. :)
> What plant material was the charcoal exactly?
Would you like the specific genus? What does asking this question resolve? Knowing a specific plant doesn't change C14. All living things decay.
> Where exactly were the samples taken & how many?
[journals.uair.arizona.edu]
> If there were no trees, and no electricity or
> natural gas/oil pipeline what did they use to cook
> with, and to smelt copper?
>
> There are no trees now!
Never said there were no trees.
However 6000BC Sahara is
> thought to have been lush forest what happened to
> all that forest?
Think about the date you just cited and the time that Giza was built. Was it plush with forest in 2500BCE?
>
> 'You da man!' when it comes to reading citations,
> have you come across translated writings noting
> repair work undertaken by supposed OK kings?
I am not the one suggesting OK repairs. :)
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> R Avry Wilson Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Ok ... so back to the mortar/samples taken for
> > dating? Jon, are you listening?
> >
> > Ask: If this is mortar, what was the mortar
> made
> > of? Clearly, a mortar composition would be
> of
> > local materials and water. Mudbrick 'tech' is
> very
> > well documented, so we can easily search the
> > environment to see what they would have used.
> Well
> > not charcoal. Charcoal comes from burnt wood.
> > They'd have to burn a forest to get the
> charcoal
> > to make the mortar. So they used something
> else...
> > hmmm.... like nearby straw and mud. Well what's
> in
> > this mud? Surface 'mud' material would contain
> > decomposed plant material from centuries past
> only
> > a few feet deep.
> >
> > And there we have the dates being a few hundred
> > years earlier in the samples.
> >
> > Poof.
> >
> > So, bye bye Jon.
>
> Hi Avry
>
> What was the mortar made from exactly?
What's the point of your question? We can make a pretty good guess based on materials in the surrounding area. Would you like to contact the institutes with the samples and have them conduct spectrometry tests? Be my guest. :)
> What plant material was the charcoal exactly?
Would you like the specific genus? What does asking this question resolve? Knowing a specific plant doesn't change C14. All living things decay.
> Where exactly were the samples taken & how many?
[journals.uair.arizona.edu]
> If there were no trees, and no electricity or
> natural gas/oil pipeline what did they use to cook
> with, and to smelt copper?
>
> There are no trees now!
Never said there were no trees.
However 6000BC Sahara is
> thought to have been lush forest what happened to
> all that forest?
Think about the date you just cited and the time that Giza was built. Was it plush with forest in 2500BCE?
>
> 'You da man!' when it comes to reading citations,
> have you come across translated writings noting
> repair work undertaken by supposed OK kings?
I am not the one suggesting OK repairs. :)
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