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Martin Stower Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> -----
> > It does for a single sample. Don't confuse a
> > single sample with the statistical analyses of
> the
> > whole project.
>
> No, it doesn’t. Detecting outliers checks data
> quality:
>
> [url=http://www.itl.nist.gov/div898/handbook/eda/s
> ection3/eda35h.htm]http://www.itl.nist.gov/div898/
> handbook/eda/section3/eda35h.htm[/url]

Read part 2 of the first section..
Another scenario wherein only two samples were taken one of which was our outlier.
Or another where 1000 samples were taken.
Or another in which there was absolutly no pre conception of the age of the subject.

>
> > The summit is still there .. Or it was last time
> I
> > looked. Furthermore if I were an OK pharaoh I'd
> > consider it somewhat of an eyesore.
>
> You are not an Old Kingdom Egyptian and we are not
> in the Old Kingdom. We are not seeing the pyramid
> as it was in the Old Kingdom. Does this simple
> fact escape you? We are seeing the pyramid as it
> is more than a millennium after the casing was
> attacked.

We see a summit casing in disrepair. We have no idea how long it has been in that condition.

>
> And for your information, the summit is not still
> there:

OK the upper section.. I'm not playing word games.

>
> [center][img]http://www.cheops-pyramide.ch/foto/py
> ramide/chefren-spitze.jpg[/img][/center]
>
> What I find remarkable is how crisply defined some
> of the blocks remain, at the edges in particular.
> This does not look like erosion by wind or rain.
> What do you think did it? Termites?

It is in considerable disrepair. One could argue in need of repair. One method would be to pour plaster slop into the cracks. which would obviously seep into the core. Which after total casing removal could be sampled by slop sampling RC dating teams. which would account for the higher dates being older, and the presence of large areas of what appears to be casting.
>
> > That's the issue .. When was it new??
>
> Given your failure to distinguish between (a) how
> the pyramid of Khafre looks today and (b) how it
> looked 4,000 years ago, I doubt you have anything
> useful to say on the question. You are not
> considering it in any realistic framework.

I don't have any 4000 year old photo's with which to compare.
I'm considering a possible scenario.
The realistic framework is .
Based on the absence of 4000 year old photos.
The p'mid is much older.
The p'mid was in disrepair 4000 years ago. Say 50% of disrepair we see today.
The pyramid was repaired 4000 years ago ..(or more).
The pyramid was repaired top down.
Which accounts for the sample date trending and the appearance of casting.


>
> > Fact is that if the casing were in a semi
> ruinous
> > state (similar to the summit of G2 today) and
> > repair slop were poured into the cracks, it
> would
> > find its way onto the first core layer. Which
> is
> > the outer layer today. Which is then sampled
> and
> > RC dated.
>
> If, if, if, if, if, if, if.
>
> Need I remind you again that this is fantasy?

Forget the IF.. I'll say will.
The application of plaster repair slop on something similar to G2 summit (upper extant casing).
Will result in repair slop finding it's way down into the outer core.
Not exactly watertight is it ?

>
> If this was their procedure, why do we see no sign
> of it on G2? You know, the one you’re holding
> up as an example of the need for it? Or at the
> Bent Pyramid, your example of actual repairs?

Because it is beneath the extant casing.
Outer core.
Or another possibility..
G2 did not require repair at that time.
Or another.
Different repair strategy.

>
> For your information, when the exterior stones of
> a medieval cathedral are badly eroded, they
> don’t “repair” them, they replace them.
> Same for pyramids. Faced with your (entirely)
> conjectural super-ancient pyramid with badly
> eroded casing stones, a sane mason would replace
> them—not try to “repair” them or pour
> “slop” over them.

He probably did repair replace small sections as we see on the Bent. The pouring of slop (cement/concrete today) is a method of binding loose disarranged masonry. It's even used to repair steel ships.
A cathedral repair carried out today is done by skilled masons who's priority is in maintaining the ancient construction integrity and practices of the building for the purposes of preservation of ancient technique as well as the structure itself.
If history and heritage were not a priority, poured concrete would provide at least a short term repair.
As was done, (inappropriately by todays standards), in the past, Stonehenge, Sphinx, Colosseum to name but few.


>
> Care to specify the composition of this magic
> “slop”?

Whatever the composition of the samples is.


>
> > During construction the casing was placed
> first,
> > followed by the core.
>
> You know this for a fact? Care to provide some
> evidence for it?

Look at the Bent and ask an engineer.
The task of placing a casing on an already constructed uneven core, even course by course would be lunacy or next to impossible.
The core consists of non constant courses and blocks of greatly varying dimensions.
Every casing block retrospectively fitted to the G1 core would have to be precision custom made.
However if the casing courses were laid first and then back filled this custom stone cutting would be totally unnecessary.
It's very obvious on the Bent.
Case first and then back filled.
Remove the case .. Result.. What we see today.. An uneven core.


>
> > It's throwing repair slop around with abandon,
> > plastering over the cracks. Some of it is going
> to
> > sink in deep.
>
> . . . and somehow [i]all[/i] of the charcoal
> samples were from this [i]some[/i] of it. A hint
> here maybe on the composition of the “slop”:
> it has to have those bits of charcoal in it to
> fulfil its explanatory function.

OK then what was the function of the slop other than to bind blocks and fill cracks/voids??



>
> > Remove the casing.. (which eventually happened)
> > and you have in places what appear to be
> pre-cast
> > blocks.
> > (Hence the pre cast block debate) Which I
> assume
> > you do not adhere to and neither do I..
>
> All we need now is the composition of “slop”
> and evidence that the blocks are made of it.

I Personally doubt that the blocks were pre cast.
What sometimes appears as pre casting is in fact the result of void filling repair slop being poured in and the subsequent removal of the outer casing exposing the hardened and formed repair slop.


>
> > I doubt it .. the OK didn't have pressure
> > injection. No, just throwing it into cracks,
> > joints and crevices will do fine.
> > If fact you have a hell of a job keeping it
> out.
> > Where else would they have taken plaster slop
> > samples from other than plaster slop.?
>
> You’re sure you’re not confusing the pyramid
> with a Swiss cheese?

No it's Egyptian not Swiss. Check it out on any good map.
Swiss things tend to be in Switzerland.

>
> > It flies .. It flies Well.. Aerobatic.
>
> A flying Swiss cheese and a sloppy theory.


Yes.. lots of "Sloppy" poured in as a repair procedure. Subsequently exposed as the casing was removed, even more subsequently sampled and tested. Mistaken by some today as evidence of pre-casting, which is understandable because in a way it is. Just a different intention, similar result.

I'm glad you agree with the "Sloppy Theory".
All good evidence of an ancient repair campaign or a number of ancient repair campaigns.
Great minds think alike.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 15-Jun-16 06:03 by Jon Ellison.

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Re: THE MORTAR 349 Origyptian 16-Jun-16 21:49
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 475 Warwick 16-Jun-16 19:33
Re: Be kind......Recycle ! 515 Thunderbird 14-Jun-16 19:17
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 557 Thanos5150 15-Jun-16 17:57
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 462 Jon Ellison 15-Jun-16 18:00
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 459 Martin Stower 15-Jun-16 18:09
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 476 Thanos5150 15-Jun-16 18:44
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 441 Martin Stower 15-Jun-16 18:50
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 429 Thanos5150 15-Jun-16 20:00
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 447 R Avry Wilson 15-Jun-16 20:39
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 492 Thanos5150 15-Jun-16 21:14
Same link, different thread... 497 DScribr 13-Jun-16 17:56
Re: Please start a new Creighton Khufu thread 492 Rofhessa 13-Jun-16 05:11
so who is it? 506 Warwick 13-Jun-16 16:36
Re: so who is it? 481 DScribr 13-Jun-16 18:00
Anachronism 448 Warwick 14-Jun-16 15:14
Re: Please start a new Creighton Khufu thread 554 Harte 13-Jun-16 22:21
Re: Please start a new Creighton Khufu thread 558 Audrey 13-Jun-16 22:33
Re: Please start a new Creighton Khufu thread 449 Harte 16-Jun-16 21:47
Philip's Cartouche 608 R Avry Wilson 17-Jun-16 20:30
Re: Philip's Cartouche 490 Martin Stower 17-Jun-16 20:53
Re: Philip's Cartouche 399 Origyptian 17-Jun-16 21:02
Re: Philip's Cartouche 333 R Avry Wilson 17-Jun-16 21:42
Re: Philip's Cartouche 322 Origyptian 17-Jun-16 21:59
Re: Philip's Cartouche 388 R Avry Wilson 17-Jun-16 22:12
Re: Philip's Cartouche 453 Origyptian 17-Jun-16 22:28
Re: Philip's Cartouche 428 Corpuscles 18-Jun-16 22:57
Re: Philip's Cartouche 326 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 03:21
Re: Philip's Cartouche 549 Corpuscles 19-Jun-16 07:56
Re: Philip's Cartouche 431 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 09:29
Re: Philip's Cartouche 395 Origyptian 19-Jun-16 15:45
Re: Philip's Cartouche 372 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 17:08
Re: Philip's Cartouche 318 Audrey 18-Jun-16 01:32
Re: Philip's Cartouche 405 Martin Stower 18-Jun-16 19:57
Re: Philip's Cartouche 363 Audrey 18-Jun-16 20:19
Re: Philip's Cartouche 379 eyeofhorus33 18-Jun-16 20:51
Re: Philip's Cartouche 335 Audrey 18-Jun-16 23:19
Re: Philip's Cartouche 270 Thanos5150 19-Jun-16 00:31
Re: Philip's Cartouche 379 Origyptian 19-Jun-16 15:37
Re: Philip's Cartouche 445 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 00:35
Re: Philip's Cartouche 367 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 03:27
Re: Philip's Cartouche 416 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 06:42
Re: Philip's Cartouche 404 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 09:21
Re: Philip's Cartouche 320 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 10:03
Re: Philip's Cartouche 392 Origyptian 19-Jun-16 15:31
Re: Philip's Cartouche 412 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 16:11
Re: Philip's Cartouche 387 Origyptian 19-Jun-16 16:59
Re: Philip's Cartouche 482 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 17:23
Re: Philip's Cartouche 415 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 17:36
Re: Philip's Cartouche 330 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 14:10
Re: Philip's Cartouche 307 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 15:39
Re: Philip's Cartouche 304 Audrey 19-Jun-16 18:38
Re: Philip's Cartouche 395 Origyptian 19-Jun-16 18:50
Re: Philip's Cartouche 468 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 19:15
Re: Philip's Cartouche 401 Origyptian 19-Jun-16 19:32
Re: Philip's Cartouche 423 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 18:53
Re: Philip's Cartouche 377 Audrey 19-Jun-16 20:05
Clueless of Cartouche 378 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 21:19
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 369 Audrey 19-Jun-16 22:34
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 388 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 22:51
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 314 Audrey 19-Jun-16 23:16
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 433 Jon Ellison 19-Jun-16 23:25
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 356 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 23:45
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 418 Audrey 19-Jun-16 23:56
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 393 Jon Ellison 20-Jun-16 00:08
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 369 Martin Stower 20-Jun-16 00:58
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 363 Martin Stower 20-Jun-16 00:37
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 408 Audrey 20-Jun-16 00:51
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 348 Jon Ellison 20-Jun-16 00:55
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 361 R Avry Wilson 20-Jun-16 01:29
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 480 Audrey 20-Jun-16 01:53
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 387 R Avry Wilson 20-Jun-16 07:15
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 413 eyeofhorus33 20-Jun-16 17:03
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 414 Jon Ellison 20-Jun-16 21:03
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 362 Audrey 20-Jun-16 23:59
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 503 Jon Ellison 21-Jun-16 00:33
Re: Clueless of Cartouche, etc. 372 DScribr 20-Jun-16 01:24
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 324 eyeofhorus33 20-Jun-16 05:31
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 423 Jon Ellison 20-Jun-16 07:22
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 394 Martin Stower 20-Jun-16 15:58
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 413 Jon Ellison 20-Jun-16 17:04
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 315 Martin Stower 20-Jun-16 20:37
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 355 Jon Ellison 20-Jun-16 20:50
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 396 Martin Stower 21-Jun-16 00:05
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 319 Martin Stower 20-Jun-16 00:25
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 364 Audrey 20-Jun-16 00:49
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 343 Martin Stower 20-Jun-16 01:26
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 458 Merrell 20-Jun-16 08:42
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 301 Jon Ellison 20-Jun-16 09:46
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 346 Origyptian 20-Jun-16 15:36
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 383 Merrell 20-Jun-16 16:14
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 386 Origyptian 20-Jun-16 19:35
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 497 Thanos5150 20-Jun-16 20:19
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 307 Origyptian 20-Jun-16 21:14
Re: Plateau erosion / Khentkhawes /Campbell's Tomb 486 Thunderbird 20-Jun-16 21:31
Re: Plateau erosion / Khentkhawes /Campbell's Tomb 611 Audrey 21-Jun-16 06:10
Re: Plateau erosion / Khentkhawes /Campbell's Tomb 371 Thunderbird 21-Jun-16 16:35
Re: Plateau erosion / Khentkhawes /Campbell's Tomb 428 Audrey 22-Jun-16 00:55
Re: Plateau erosion / Sher/Wall of the Crow 591 Thunderbird 22-Jun-16 06:15
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 509 Thanos5150 21-Jun-16 02:07
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 337 Audrey 21-Jun-16 05:32
Re: Dance of the Pole Stars 427 Thunderbird 21-Jun-16 05:56
Re: Clueless of Egyptology 397 DScribr 20-Jun-16 01:27
Re: Philip's Cartouche 380 Origyptian 19-Jun-16 15:18
Re: Philip's Cartouche 311 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 17:30
Re: Philip's Cartouche 509 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 00:12
Re: Philip's Cartouche 345 Audrey 19-Jun-16 00:17
Re: Philip's Cartouche 407 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 00:47
Re: Philip's Cartouche 373 Audrey 19-Jun-16 01:29
Re: Philip's Cartouche 364 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 01:46
Re: Philip's Cartouche 372 Audrey 19-Jun-16 03:01
Re: Philip's Cartouche 541 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 14:08
Re: Philip's Cartouche 348 cladking 19-Jun-16 14:45
Re: Philip's Cartouche 435 Corpuscles 19-Jun-16 01:38
Khufu's Cartouche 330 DScribr 19-Jun-16 00:24
Re: Philip's Cartouche 398 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 03:23
Re: Philip's Cartouche 409 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 15:18
Re: Philip's Cartouche 360 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 16:56
Re: Philip's Cartouche 406 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 17:30
Re: Philip's Cartouche 390 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 18:00
Good Grief... 427 Warwick 21-Jun-16 15:53
Re: Philip's Cartouche 388 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 02:57
Re: Philip's Cartouche 432 Audrey 19-Jun-16 03:32
Re: Philip's Cartouche 365 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 03:47
Re: Philip's Cartouche 406 Audrey 19-Jun-16 04:01
Re: Philip's Cartouche 329 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 04:26
Re: Philip's Cartouche 385 Audrey 19-Jun-16 04:33
Re: Philip's Cartouche 463 Thanos5150 19-Jun-16 04:46
Re: Philip's Cartouche 387 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 09:35
Re: Philip's Cartouche 409 Thanos5150 19-Jun-16 16:05
Re: Philip's Cartouche 327 R Avry Wilson 20-Jun-16 23:44
Re: Philip's Cartouche 489 Thanos5150 21-Jun-16 05:56
Re: Philip's Cartouche 388 R Avry Wilson 21-Jun-16 16:51
Re: Philip's Cartouche 403 Origyptian 19-Jun-16 15:50
Re: Philip's Cartouche 288 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 16:42
Re: Philip's Cartouche 388 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 15:07
Re: Philip's Cartouche 445 Merrell 19-Jun-16 10:50
Re: Philip's Cartouche 457 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 13:57
Re: Philip's Cartouche 367 Origyptian 17-Jun-16 21:21
Re: Philip's Cartouche 332 R Avry Wilson 17-Jun-16 21:50
Re: Philip's Cartouche 419 Origyptian 17-Jun-16 22:27
Re: Philip's Cartouche 326 eyeofhorus33 18-Jun-16 20:54
Re: Philip's Cartouche 443 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 02:23
Focus on the axiom 500 Merrell 19-Jun-16 20:24


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