Thunderbird Wrote:
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> Radiocarbon Dating
>
> Egyptologists date the 4th dynasty kings Khufu and
> Khafre to the period 2500-2400 BC. However, the
> 1983-84 ‘Pyramids Carbon-dating Project’,
> commissioned and funded by the Edgar Cayce
> Foundation, and directed by the Egyptologists Mark
> Lehner and Robert Wenke, discovered some highly
> anomalous results.
>
> For example, thirteen samples of mortar from the
> Great Pyramid produced dates in the range
> 3101-2853 BC, and an average date of 2977 BC.
> Similarly, seven samples of mortar from the Second
> Pyramid produced an average date of 2988 BC.
> Equally intriguing, a sample of wood from
> ‘Khufu’s Boat’, buried alongside the Great
> Pyramid, produced a remarkable date of 3400 BC.
>
> Such was the confusion caused by the 1983-84
> ‘Pyramids Carbon-dating Project’ that a
> second, more thorough study was carried out in
> 1995. The results of this study were published
> (belatedly) in 2001 in the journal
> ‘Radiocarbon’, volume 43, number 3, pp.
> 1297-1320. 
> [www.eridu.co.uk]
>
>
> Could it be just this obvious the Giza Plateau and
> Temples with the Sphinx are
> Pre Dynastic in age?
>
> The Mastaba build continues thru early Dynastic
> and zenith in Stone Mastaba during
> 4th Dynasty.
>
> Snefru's Seila-pyramid and others....
>
> Is he really building the 3 huge pyramids ascribed
> to him
> Or is he building smaller pyramids....mastabas and
> other buildings as he adopts the
> 3 large pyramids which are extant in his day.
>
> The above radio carbon dates indicate they are
> repairing extant Pyramids in Dynasty 1!!
>
> That Snefru Cartouche or his work gangs graffiti
> appear on casing stones of the big
> Pyramids...is suggestive he is repairing them.
>
> Just a the Valley Temple gets granite repair to
> severe erosion limestone core blocks during the
> 4th Dynasty.

Did you not think that this merits a thread of its own?

Why are you citing Alford and not the original papers?

What I’m getting from this is that the “lost” civilisation was really, really bad at building pyramids (or anything else). I mean, really **** at it. So **** that it was left to the bumpkins of the Old Kingdom to extensively “repair” its buildings, repairs so extensive as to account for all of the radiocarbon dates. How convenient.

What seems oddly not to occur to the fringe (which is engaged in rationalisation, not thought) is that such a programme would require solutions to most (if not all) of the problems entailed in building the pyramids and temples in the first place. Our “lost” civilisation proponents credit the Old Kingdom masons ad hoc with precisely those abilities which they otherwise deny them.

This stuff about granite repairs to limestone core blocks is arrant nonsense. Clue is in the name: core blocks. As Lehner noted, without the casing, it isn’t finished architecture. What happened to the original casing? Mice?

You’re also going to need to explain how they installed the granite lintel underneath a massive limestone one (western doorway of Khafre Valley Temple: credit to Lawton and Ogilvie-Herald for noticing).

M.