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Martin Stower Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Martin Stower Wrote:
> >
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>
> First of all, reinstating the relevant paragraph
> and link in full:
>
> > > You, unlike some, are displaying the right
> > > attitude: judge the arguments on their merits
> and
> > > not on the credentials of the source. Not
> sure
> > > how far I follow this through, as at some
> point I
> > > will rely on credentialed sources for basic
> > > principles—but, only if they make sense to
> me
> > > and I’m persuaded that they know what
> they’re
> > > talking about. On this I’m inclined to
> agree
> > > with Bakunin:
> > >
> > >
> [url=http://www.ozarkia.net/bill/anarchism/FAQquot
> es/Bakunin2Authority.html]http://www.ozarkia.net/b
> ill/anarchism/FAQquotes/Bakunin2Authority.html[/ur
> l]
> > >
> > > M.
> >
> > Well in this case you have the best of both
> > worlds.
> >
> > An observation brought to light by someone who
> is
> > acknowledged as an expert. (myself)
> > (Due to the fact that I brought forward the
> > observation)
> >
> > The expert observation being underpinned by not
> > one, but two relevant degrees. (myself)
> > (I have two relevant degrees)
> >
> > Actually I would have objected to being
> referred
> > to as merely "an independent researcher"
> > I worked hard for five years for my
> professional
> > qualifications and I require that they be
> > recognised.
>
> So why did you not require that Creighton specify
> “MA Fine Art, Portsmouth, 2003”?
Scott's the author, I trust him, he's a gentleman, he can acknowledge me in any way he sees fit.
>
> > You must think all your birthdays have come at
> > once.
> > What are you worried about? You're going to be
> in
> > safe hands.
> > How good can it get?
>
> How did you get through two degrees without basic
> reading skills?
Raw talent, Intelligence and most of all Good Looks.
>
> Me: “I will rely on credentialed sources for
> basic principles—but, only if they make sense to
> me and I’m persuaded that they know what
> they’re talking about.”
>
> Bakunin: “I listen to them freely and with all
> the respect merited by their intelligence, their
> character, their knowledge, reserving always my
> incontestable right of criticism and censure. I
> do not content myself with consulting a single
> authority in any special branch; I consult
> several; I compare their opinions, and choose that
> which seems to me the soundest. But I recognise
> no infallible authority, even in special
> questions; . . .”
>
> I doubt you know what you’re talking about, I do
> not consider your opinions sound and you are
> certainly not infallible. On the contrary, I
> reject your all-too-evident pretensions as an
> authoritarian con job.
Free Country
Draw your own conclusions.
Who cares what you think? I don't.
>
> “What are you worried about? You’re going to
> be in safe hands” is (however jocose) as
> thorough a miscomprehension as there could be.
Well don't worry about it then. Problem solved.
>
> A fuller extract from Bakunin, which often appears
> (as here) as “What is Authority?”:
>
> [url=http://www.panarchy.org/bakunin/authority.187
> 1.html]http://www.panarchy.org/bakunin/authority.1
> 871.html[/url]
>
> M.
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Martin Stower Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> First of all, reinstating the relevant paragraph
> and link in full:
>
> > > You, unlike some, are displaying the right
> > > attitude: judge the arguments on their merits
> and
> > > not on the credentials of the source. Not
> sure
> > > how far I follow this through, as at some
> point I
> > > will rely on credentialed sources for basic
> > > principles—but, only if they make sense to
> me
> > > and I’m persuaded that they know what
> they’re
> > > talking about. On this I’m inclined to
> agree
> > > with Bakunin:
> > >
> > >
> [url=http://www.ozarkia.net/bill/anarchism/FAQquot
> es/Bakunin2Authority.html]http://www.ozarkia.net/b
> ill/anarchism/FAQquotes/Bakunin2Authority.html[/ur
> l]
> > >
> > > M.
> >
> > Well in this case you have the best of both
> > worlds.
> >
> > An observation brought to light by someone who
> is
> > acknowledged as an expert. (myself)
> > (Due to the fact that I brought forward the
> > observation)
> >
> > The expert observation being underpinned by not
> > one, but two relevant degrees. (myself)
> > (I have two relevant degrees)
> >
> > Actually I would have objected to being
> referred
> > to as merely "an independent researcher"
> > I worked hard for five years for my
> professional
> > qualifications and I require that they be
> > recognised.
>
> So why did you not require that Creighton specify
> “MA Fine Art, Portsmouth, 2003”?
Scott's the author, I trust him, he's a gentleman, he can acknowledge me in any way he sees fit.
>
> > You must think all your birthdays have come at
> > once.
> > What are you worried about? You're going to be
> in
> > safe hands.
> > How good can it get?
>
> How did you get through two degrees without basic
> reading skills?
Raw talent, Intelligence and most of all Good Looks.
>
> Me: “I will rely on credentialed sources for
> basic principles—but, only if they make sense to
> me and I’m persuaded that they know what
> they’re talking about.”
>
> Bakunin: “I listen to them freely and with all
> the respect merited by their intelligence, their
> character, their knowledge, reserving always my
> incontestable right of criticism and censure. I
> do not content myself with consulting a single
> authority in any special branch; I consult
> several; I compare their opinions, and choose that
> which seems to me the soundest. But I recognise
> no infallible authority, even in special
> questions; . . .”
>
> I doubt you know what you’re talking about, I do
> not consider your opinions sound and you are
> certainly not infallible. On the contrary, I
> reject your all-too-evident pretensions as an
> authoritarian con job.
Free Country
Draw your own conclusions.
Who cares what you think? I don't.
>
> “What are you worried about? You’re going to
> be in safe hands” is (however jocose) as
> thorough a miscomprehension as there could be.
Well don't worry about it then. Problem solved.
>
> A fuller extract from Bakunin, which often appears
> (as here) as “What is Authority?”:
>
> [url=http://www.panarchy.org/bakunin/authority.187
> 1.html]http://www.panarchy.org/bakunin/authority.1
> 871.html[/url]
>
> M.
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