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Alan Alford responds to Martin

Alan Alford

Hi Martin,

Sounds like I've got you worried!

Thank you for confirming that all three names of Khufu - including the
Horus Medjedu name - were inscribed together in an inscription in Sinai,
and reproduced in 'Voyage de l'Arabie Petree' - published in 1832 - 5
years BEFORE Vyse made his discovery.

I mentioned this only because it backs up the point which I previously
made - that Vyse could have copied ALL of the inscriptions from a location
outside the Great Pyramid to the Construction Chambers inside the Pyramid.

The Sinai inscriptions are relevant only as an example of how the names
were often written together.

Your contention that no-one could read the Horus names in 1837 is
irrelevant. It is my contention that Vyse copied what he saw, probably
from the nearby quarries or the tombs of Khufu's kinsfolk, and I would
suggest that he found the Horus-name written <without> the serekh.

Anyway, your note about Wilkinson is a little incomplete. Not only did he
observe that the serekhs 'relate to the kings' but he included Khufu's
serekh directly alongside the cartouche name for Khufu. He labelled them
"1a/1b the name of Shufu or Suphis". This was in his 1837 book, published
in the months BEFORE Vyse's 'discovery'.

As you well know, Wilkinson HAD made the connection in 1837 between the
readings Khufu/Shufu and Suphis/Cheops. And it had long been suspected
that Cheops was the king who had built the Great Pyramid - as related by
Herodotus.

So, IF Vyse saw Wilkinson's book - which you must admit as a probability
(or even a 'possibility' will suffice) - he could hardly have failed to
make the necessary connections from Cheops to the cartouches for
Shufu/Khufu AND to the serekh-name (which we now know to read 'Hor
Medjedu').

As for the Khnum-kuefui cartouche name, Wilkinson also reproduced this in
his 1837 book, directly alongside the names of Shufu, labelling it
'2.Numba-Khufu or Chembres'. So IF Vyse had seen this book, which I will
presume he did, he would have been intrigued by the 'Khufu' connection
between this name 'Numba-Khufu' and Shufu/Khufu/Cheops.

Now we know that Vyse spent months at Giza and had his men copying
inscriptions there. And we know from Birch and Wilkinson that these
cartouche names and the serekh had already been found at Giza (for
example, Wilkinson's plate of the names is captioned 'From the Tombs near
the Pyramids'). So it does not take a huge leap of faith to suppose that
Vyse had first-hand experience of ALL these names.

So, all we need is for Vyse to have found all three names together - in a
quarry or a tomb - to make the logical connection that they were all
related to the same king, Cheops, who was already supposed to have been
the owner of the Pyramid.

So, did Vyse forge the king's names? Let's just remind ourselves of a few
salient facts:

1. There were no proper archaeological controls or verification procedures
in operation to authenticate the marks that were found when the
Construction Chambers were opened by Vyse.

2. By 1837, all chambers inside the Great Pyramid had been thoroughly
explored and no other inscriptions had been found. Only the 'air shafts'
remained unexplored, and they were almost completely inaccessible. So
there was little likelihood of a fraud ever being subsequently exposed by
new, contrary evidence.

3. Vyse, by his own admission, was running out of time and money and was
desperate to make a discovery.

4. The red ochre paint which was used in the ancient inscriptions was
still readily available in 1837.

So did he do it? Did Vyse commit the forgery? On the evidence of what's in
the Great Pyramid alone, we may never know for certain. But there are
several things, Martin, which should make you feel uncomfortable with your
oh-so-confident assertion that the names are authentic:

(i) No graffiti marks were found in the lowest chamber - the only one NOT
opened by Vyse.

(ii) Arguably, the term 'craftsman' found in the crew names does not
belong in the context of a work gang engaged in lifting heavy stones, but
rather to craftsmanship as in making statues, furniture or other
artifacts, as might be found in temples or tombs. This seems to support my
hypothesis that the marks were copied from one location to another, but
I'd love to hear what you think.

(iii) The graffiti includes a lot of very strange stuff which you do know
about, Martin, but which you don't like to talk about. Please allow me to
remind you:

* In Nelson's Chamber, northern side of western wall, the cartouche which
should follow 'the Craftsmens 'Crew' symbols is almost entirely missing.

* In Arbuthnot's Chamber, northern side of western wall, there is a
genuinely malformed cartouche, which has nothing to do with Khufu. How
odd.

* In Arbuthnot's Chamber, southern side of western wall, there is a
confusing jumble of hieroglyphs, seemingly a crew name based on Horus
Medjedu which appears to have been partly obliterated and then repainted.
Why?
  
* In Arbuthnot's Chamber, northern wall, there are no less than SIX
attempts to produce the Khnum-kuefui cartouche, only ONE of which has been
properly completed. Mighty strange.

* In Arbuthnot's Chamber, southern wall, there are 2 fragmentary attempts
at the Horus Medjeru name, plus sundry other marks of uncertain character.
How peculiar.

Even if we leave to one side the whole battery of evidence that the Great
Pyramid dates centuries earlier than Khufu, the above facts must at the
very least cast considerable doubt on the authenticity of the
inscriptions.

All I can hope to do with this evidence is to demonstrate that the
orthodox argument for the authenticity of the inscriptions is by no means
a watertight case. Considerable doubt exists and should be acknowledged.

I would add that few people realise just to what extent the orthodox case
hangs on these Vyse inscriptions. I believe that I have demonstrated this
point amply in my book 'The Phoenix Solution'.

As you can see Martin, your abuse and threats don't worry me in the
slightest. The facts speak for themselves.

As for Hancock's statement, Martin, don't make me laugh! You have no
evidence, just hearsay, and some very vague hearsay at that. I suggest you
try and get some good photos because you're really going to need them. I
tell you what - if you manage to get you and me, both, a double written
invitation from Hawass to go up into the Construction Chambers, equipped
with proper lighting, I'll pay for your return flight to Egypt. How about
that for an 'honest attempt to discover the truth'?

*************************


T Bird

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Non Noh-Suphis 1127 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-16 15:31
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Re: Oldest mines and Red ochre 850 Thunderbird 03-Jun-16 01:24
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Re:Co Regents ? 802 Thunderbird 03-Jun-16 15:35
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The Power 796 loveritas 04-Jun-16 04:40
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Re: 3rd Dynasty Cartouche 1194 Thanos5150 04-Jun-16 21:06
Re: 3rd Dynasty Cartouche 816 Thanos5150 04-Jun-16 21:27
Re: 3rd Dynasty Cartouche 795 Warwick 05-Jun-16 07:26
Re: 3rd Dynasty Cartouche 1349 Thanos5150 05-Jun-16 18:37
Re: 3rd Dynasty Cartouche 798 Warwick 05-Jun-16 18:51
Re: 3rd Dynasty Cartouche 858 Thanos5150 05-Jun-16 20:12
Re: 3rd Dynasty Cartouche 784 Warwick 06-Jun-16 18:25
Re: 3rd Dynasty Cartouche 817 Thanos5150 07-Jun-16 01:35
Cartouche circle symbolizes a rope 733 DScribr 23-Jun-16 19:30
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Re: The Power 769 Martin Stower 21-Jun-16 13:32
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Re: Who Was Khufu? 834 Thanos5150 04-Jun-16 02:42
The Entrance Cartouche Puzzle 854 loveritas 04-Jun-16 04:18
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Re: Expert? Specialist? 580 Audrey 30-Jun-16 02:41
Re: Expert? Specialist? 581 R Avry Wilson 30-Jun-16 03:02
Re: Expert? Specialist? 570 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 03:27
Re: Expert? Specialist? 519 R Avry Wilson 30-Jun-16 04:32
Re: Expert? Specialist? 535 Audrey 30-Jun-16 05:29
Re: Expert? Specialist? 608 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 05:52
Re: Expert? Specialist? 591 eyeofhorus33 30-Jun-16 06:10
Re: Expert? Specialist? 672 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 06:37
Re: Ignore the evidence 651 Thunderbird 30-Jun-16 06:08
Re: Expert? Specialist? 634 Audrey 30-Jun-16 04:09
Re: Expert? Specialist? 668 R Avry Wilson 30-Jun-16 04:34
Re: Expert? Specialist? 660 Audrey 30-Jun-16 05:06
Re: Expert? Specialist? 642 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 15:07
Re: Expert? Specialist? 633 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 06:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 591 Corpuscles 30-Jun-16 23:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 612 Audrey 30-Jun-16 23:37
Re: Expert? Specialist? 558 Martin Stower 30-Jun-16 23:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 637 Audrey 01-Jul-16 00:36
Re: Expert? Specialist? 644 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 00:50
Re: Expert? Specialist? 533 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:09
Re: Expert? Specialist? 661 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:55
Re: Expert? Specialist? 559 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:57
Re: Expert? Specialist? 661 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:59
Re: Expert? Specialist? 675 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 04:18
Re: Expert? Specialist? 633 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 14:55
Please, Steven 660 drrayeye 01-Jul-16 00:44
Re: Please, Steven 642 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:19
Re: Please, Steven 700 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:56
Re: Please, Steven 743 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 04:24
Re: Please, Steven 595 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 15:01
Re: Expert? Specialist? 602 Origyptian 26-Jun-16 18:12
Re: Expert? Specialist? 668 Merrell 26-Jun-16 19:18
Re: Expert? Specialist? 611 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 00:03
Re: Expert? Specialist? 622 Merrell 27-Jun-16 07:00
Re: Expert? Specialist? 637 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 13:19
Re: Expert? Specialist? 548 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 13:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 629 Merrell 27-Jun-16 14:56
Re: Expert? Specialist? 592 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 15:11
Re: Expert? Specialist? 599 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:28
Re: Expert? Specialist? 589 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:42
Re: Expert? Specialist? 704 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 17:37
Re: Expert? Specialist? 639 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 17:45
Re: Expert? Specialist? 675 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 21:13
Re: Expert? Specialist? 709 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 22:32
Re: Expert? Specialist? 616 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 00:21
Re: Expert? Specialist? 721 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:02
Re: Expert? Specialist? 640 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:40
Re: Expert? Specialist? 640 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 532 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:55
Re: Expert? Specialist? 745 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 16:24
Re: Expert? Specialist? 571 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 18:30
Re: Expert? Specialist? 598 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 21:27
Re: Expert? Specialist? 612 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 01:59
Re: Expert? Specialist? 596 eyeofhorus33 27-Jun-16 17:00
Re: Expert? Specialist? 705 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 18:51
Re: Gatekeeping 562 Thunderbird 27-Jun-16 16:38
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 678 Audrey 26-Jun-16 01:54
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 827 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:24
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 629 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:42
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 689 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:18
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 670 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 03:27
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 592 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:31
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 692 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:40
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 602 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:46
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 599 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:52
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 681 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 04:23
No Moderator Conspiracy 617 loveritas 27-Jun-16 05:55
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 647 Morten 25-Jun-16 23:19
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 617 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:37
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 657 Audrey 25-Jun-16 23:51
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 571 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 00:45
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 701 Audrey 26-Jun-16 01:49
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 741 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:12
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 573 DScribr 30-Jun-16 02:48
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 639 Merrell 25-Jun-16 10:47
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 609 Merrell 26-Jun-16 13:30
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 585 Audrey 24-Jun-16 16:43
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 745 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 20:08
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 647 Audrey 24-Jun-16 20:33
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 726 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 20:47
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 763 Merrell 25-Jun-16 10:59
Re: Perring - Lady Arbuthnot chamber 695 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 11:38
Post o' the week! 637 DScribr 22-Jun-16 21:07
Summertime In England 674 loveritas 21-Jun-16 05:52
Re: Who Was Khufu? 720 DUNE 21-Jun-16 15:14
Re: Who Was Khufu? 597 Jon Ellison 21-Jun-16 15:22
Re: Who Was Khufu? 769 DUNE 21-Jun-16 16:05
Re: Minute Examination 678 Thunderbird 21-Jun-16 18:12
Re: Minute Examination 641 Martin Stower 21-Jun-16 18:48
Gilligan Accepts Michaelangelo Challenge 801 loveritas 22-Jun-16 03:34
Re: Gilligan Accepts Michaelangelo Challenge 652 Martin Stower 22-Jun-16 20:20
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 704 DScribr 23-Jun-16 19:14
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 745 Martin Stower 23-Jun-16 21:37
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 662 DScribr 23-Jun-16 23:00
Court Rocked By Stalker Allegation! 694 loveritas 22-Jun-16 23:20
Re: Court Rocked By Stalker Allegation! 748 Martin Stower 22-Jun-16 23:57
Creighton's Legal Team In Hiding 771 loveritas 23-Jun-16 23:54
it all boils down to this 661 Warwick 25-Jun-16 19:21
How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 667 Corpuscles 25-Jun-16 23:33
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 703 Audrey 26-Jun-16 00:19
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 682 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 01:24
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 602 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:17
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 670 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:33
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 690 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:48
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 587 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 02:52
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 644 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:57
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 700 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 02:59
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 530 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:40
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 641 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:46
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 774 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 04:04
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 667 Audrey 26-Jun-16 04:47
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 698 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 13:49
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 629 Warwick 26-Jun-16 17:32
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 654 Corpuscles 26-Jun-16 07:01
Re: Who Was Khufu? 680 atul.seth 28-Jun-16 12:48
Re: Who Was Khufu? 663 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 15:13
Re: Who Was Khufu? 721 Howard West 28-Jun-16 15:37
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 666 Brian Patterson 28-Jun-16 16:16
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 660 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 18:09
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 612 wonderwall 28-Jun-16 20:52
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 669 Brian Patterson 28-Jun-16 21:22
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 767 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 04:46
Lackeys 716 loveritas 29-Jun-16 07:19
Re: Lackeys 683 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 08:06
Re: Lackeys 657 Corpuscles 29-Jun-16 09:41
Re: Lackeys 649 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 09:45
Re: Lackeys 593 Audrey 29-Jun-16 15:52
Re: Lackeys 670 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:05
Oxymoron Alert 559 Warwick 29-Jun-16 16:36
Re: Oxymoron Alert 630 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:58
Re: Oxymoron Alert 575 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 17:06
Re: Oxymoron Alert 618 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:28
Re: Oxymoron Alert 710 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 17:36
Re: Oxymoron Alert 546 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:47
Re: Oxymoron Alert 545 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 18:59
Surely you Jest 607 WonderWho 29-Jun-16 19:59
Re: Surely you Jest 629 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 20:29
Re: Surely you Jest 608 WonderWho 29-Jun-16 20:48
Re: Oxymoron Alert 672 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 17:32
N/T 593 Merrell 01-Jul-16 17:22
Re: Oxymoron Alert 660 Warwick 29-Jun-16 17:15
Re: Oxymoron Alert 686 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 17:24
Say what? 654 Warwick 30-Jun-16 14:27
Re: Say what? 573 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 15:16
Re: Say what? 642 Warwick 01-Jul-16 16:55
Re: Say what? 619 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 17:10
Re: Say what? 644 Warwick 01-Jul-16 17:28
Re: Say what? 695 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 15:26
Re: Say what? 633 Warwick 01-Jul-16 16:51
The Lackey Called John Snape 577 loveritas 29-Jun-16 11:14
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 601 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 11:38
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 702 loveritas 29-Jun-16 11:55
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 575 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 12:01
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 603 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:16
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 704 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:33
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 576 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:47
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 688 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:58
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 555 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:09
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 706 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:28
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 617 eyeofhorus33 29-Jun-16 16:54
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 641 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:01
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 601 eyeofhorus33 29-Jun-16 17:10
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 670 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:30
Re: Lackeys 637 Audrey 29-Jun-16 15:59
Re: Lackeys 609 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:08
Re: Lackeys 668 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:31
Re: Lackeys 551 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:54
Re: Lackeys 555 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:06
Re: Lackeys 635 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 17:37
Re: Lackeys 545 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:43
Re: Lackeys 640 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 18:46
Re: Lackeys 630 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:48
Re: Lackeys 660 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 19:19
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 669 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 12:40
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 650 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 13:35
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 553 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:38
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 552 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 14:42
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 628 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 15:16
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 666 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:50
'Officially' in the gutter. 687 DScribr 29-Jun-16 20:16
Scotts 'New" Book 705 DScribr 29-Jun-16 03:36
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 644 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:27
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 573 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 14:07
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 628 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:44
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 637 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 15:48
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 599 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:57
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 631 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 16:07
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 596 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:14
n/t 621 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:59
The Need For Proof. 615 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:56
Re: The Need For Proof. 665 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 20:00
Hypocrisy 678 DScribr 29-Jun-16 20:10
Re: Hypocrisy 598 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 20:19
Re: Hypocrisy 610 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 20:56
Re: Hypocrisy 569 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 21:01
Re: Hypocrisy 615 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 21:14
Re: Hypocrisy 641 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 21:36
Re: Hypocrisy 588 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 22:21
Re: Hypocrisy 602 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:55
Re: Hypocrisy 548 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:53
Re: Hypocrisy denied, but..... 666 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:50
Re: Hypocrisy 623 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:48
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 589 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:49
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 575 cladking 29-Jun-16 03:48
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 663 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 05:09
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 535 cladking 29-Jun-16 19:12


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