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Thanks, yes there are some seeming problems which can't be dismissed and could mean it is wrong. But it is only a very new/young (tentative/casual) theory and hasn't had thorough enough investigation yet. There are alot of seeming evidences which also can't be dismissed and could mean it is right. I may not have the time and health to do anymore on it myself as i have to stop spending so much time on computer & net/web, and i have other things i need & want to do (and also it is not worth it, as i have made such hard work efforts on other discoveries only to me/them ignored/hidden/slandered/stolen).
One has to throughly consider/check all possibilities on both sides before ruling-out or ruling-in.
Not all of Jacob's son's were prominent. Possibly the 2x2 sons of the 2 concubines were less prominent? Some could have pseudonyms. One webpage on 4th dynasty does actually show about 12 sons of Khufu! Other source/s show 2 or 4 spouses!
I mainly only listed the stronger ones, i left out some weaker ones.
This is a list of all the sons (or sons-in-law) of Khufu i've found :
[Hemiunu/Hemon?]; Kawab; Djedef-hor; Djedef-re; Khufukaef/Khufukhaf/Kaefkhufu; Khafre; Baufre?; Minkhaf; Horbaef; Babaef; Nefermaat?; Khnumbaf; [Wepemnefert?]; [KaemAh/Kamaha?];.
The sons & daughter of Jacob/Yakov are:
Reu-ben, S(h)im(e)on, Levi, Judah, Gad, Asher, Dan, Naphtali, Zebulun, Issachar, Dinah, Joseph/[Asaph]/(Zaphenath-)Paneah, Benoni/Ben-jamin, + Manasseh, Ephraim.
I need to know more about the meanings of the Egyptian names. (Anyone can help? I am not fluent only know some.)
Regardless of whether my new 4th dynasty theory is right or wrong, there is no doubt that it is right not wrong that Joseph was in the 3rd(-4th) dynasty (which we have tons of stark matches/evidences for).
(Whatever i am wrong/dumb about doesn't mean i am all/always wrong/dumb about everything or that orthodox are all/always right about everything.)
Here is out tentative so-far on the 5 main 4th dynasty "kings/pharaohs" and 3 famous Giza pyramids:
1 Jacob ~ Khufu/Cheops? ~ Great Pyramid? ~ Philitis?
S(h)im(e)on (slayer of Hamor) ~ Hemon/Hemiunu?
Judah ~ Djedef-hor? or Djedef-ptah??
1.5 Joseph ~ Djedef-re? ~ Sphinx (links with all 3 pyramids)?
1.5 Zaphenath ~ Sekhemhet? [~ Saophis-Comastes??] (Djedef-ptah?)
2a Manasseh ~ Minkhaf?
2b Ephraim ~ Khafre/Chephren? ~ 2nd Pyramid?
[ Shemida ~ Sekhemkare? ]
3 Machir son of Manasseh ~ Menkaure/Mycerinus? ~ 3rd Pyramid?
Maacah ~ Khamere-nebty?
4b Zelophehad ~ Shepseskaf?
4b Shuppim - wa/et - Huppim ~ Shepseskaf??
4b Sheresh ~ Shepseskaf?
4a Gilead ~ Khuenre?
Rakem ~ Sekemre?
[ Shemida ~ Sekemre? ]
[ Shechem ~ Sekemre? ]
(More than one possible candidates for the repeated Shepseskaf, and Sekemre.)
Plus just add on Moses:
Jochabed ~ Hetepi?
Princess ~ Sit-hathor-yunet?
Moses ~ blue kneeling figure on pectoral of Sit-hathor-yunet?
Moses ~ "he is not my son..." (said Senusret 3)? Amenemhet 4?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06-Jun-16 07:48 by Rofhessa.
One has to throughly consider/check all possibilities on both sides before ruling-out or ruling-in.
Not all of Jacob's son's were prominent. Possibly the 2x2 sons of the 2 concubines were less prominent? Some could have pseudonyms. One webpage on 4th dynasty does actually show about 12 sons of Khufu! Other source/s show 2 or 4 spouses!
I mainly only listed the stronger ones, i left out some weaker ones.
This is a list of all the sons (or sons-in-law) of Khufu i've found :
[Hemiunu/Hemon?]; Kawab; Djedef-hor; Djedef-re; Khufukaef/Khufukhaf/Kaefkhufu; Khafre; Baufre?; Minkhaf; Horbaef; Babaef; Nefermaat?; Khnumbaf; [Wepemnefert?]; [KaemAh/Kamaha?];.
The sons & daughter of Jacob/Yakov are:
Reu-ben, S(h)im(e)on, Levi, Judah, Gad, Asher, Dan, Naphtali, Zebulun, Issachar, Dinah, Joseph/[Asaph]/(Zaphenath-)Paneah, Benoni/Ben-jamin, + Manasseh, Ephraim.
I need to know more about the meanings of the Egyptian names. (Anyone can help? I am not fluent only know some.)
Regardless of whether my new 4th dynasty theory is right or wrong, there is no doubt that it is right not wrong that Joseph was in the 3rd(-4th) dynasty (which we have tons of stark matches/evidences for).
(Whatever i am wrong/dumb about doesn't mean i am all/always wrong/dumb about everything or that orthodox are all/always right about everything.)
Here is out tentative so-far on the 5 main 4th dynasty "kings/pharaohs" and 3 famous Giza pyramids:
1 Jacob ~ Khufu/Cheops? ~ Great Pyramid? ~ Philitis?
S(h)im(e)on (slayer of Hamor) ~ Hemon/Hemiunu?
Judah ~ Djedef-hor? or Djedef-ptah??
1.5 Joseph ~ Djedef-re? ~ Sphinx (links with all 3 pyramids)?
1.5 Zaphenath ~ Sekhemhet? [~ Saophis-Comastes??] (Djedef-ptah?)
2a Manasseh ~ Minkhaf?
2b Ephraim ~ Khafre/Chephren? ~ 2nd Pyramid?
[ Shemida ~ Sekhemkare? ]
3 Machir son of Manasseh ~ Menkaure/Mycerinus? ~ 3rd Pyramid?
Maacah ~ Khamere-nebty?
4b Zelophehad ~ Shepseskaf?
4b Shuppim - wa/et - Huppim ~ Shepseskaf??
4b Sheresh ~ Shepseskaf?
4a Gilead ~ Khuenre?
Rakem ~ Sekemre?
[ Shemida ~ Sekemre? ]
[ Shechem ~ Sekemre? ]
(More than one possible candidates for the repeated Shepseskaf, and Sekemre.)
Plus just add on Moses:
Jochabed ~ Hetepi?
Princess ~ Sit-hathor-yunet?
Moses ~ blue kneeling figure on pectoral of Sit-hathor-yunet?
Moses ~ "he is not my son..." (said Senusret 3)? Amenemhet 4?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06-Jun-16 07:48 by Rofhessa.
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