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Hello Thanos.
Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Again, for your convenience:
>
> "Regarding Khnum-Khuf and Khufu being one and the
> same, Fix says:
>
> It is repeated as fact today Khnum Khuf was the
> original name of Khufu, but I am wondering where
> and why exactly this opinion changed."
>
> To continue....The idea of Khufu co-regents was a
> popular one well into at least the early 1900's so
> they had quite some time to figure this out after
> Osburn. If this is no longer a viable option then
> surely there must be a quotable reason for this.
> It was not uncommon for there to be co-regents
> even in archaic Dynastic times, including women,
> and Manetho does list a "Suphis I" and "Suphis II"
> in Khufu's spot.
To follow up with this thought, it has always struck me odd that the Khufu Wadi al-Jarf papyrus has both Khnum Khuf and Khufu cartouches not to mention Khufu's serekh:
Khnum Khuf also appears on the blocks:
So, on one piece the author Merer includes the Khnum Khuf cartouche and his serekh but no Khufu cartouche. Yet on the other it has only the Khufu cartouche. This is Merer's journal, an accounting ledger of sorts, which there seems little point he would use all 3 names for one king when writing for potentially only his own consumption and/or the bean counters back home. Are we really sure these all refer to the same person?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06-Jun-16 03:02 by Thanos5150.
Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Again, for your convenience:
>
> "Regarding Khnum-Khuf and Khufu being one and the
> same, Fix says:
>
>Quote
Contemporary Egyptologists have swung
> around to the opinion that Khufu and Khnum-Khuf
> are two different names for one king, but this has
> merely shelved the problem without really
> resolving it. There has been no new evidence [as
> of c. 1978] since the time of Petrie, Maspero and
> Muller to support this opinion.
> It is repeated as fact today Khnum Khuf was the
> original name of Khufu, but I am wondering where
> and why exactly this opinion changed."
>
> To continue....The idea of Khufu co-regents was a
> popular one well into at least the early 1900's so
> they had quite some time to figure this out after
> Osburn. If this is no longer a viable option then
> surely there must be a quotable reason for this.
> It was not uncommon for there to be co-regents
> even in archaic Dynastic times, including women,
> and Manetho does list a "Suphis I" and "Suphis II"
> in Khufu's spot.
To follow up with this thought, it has always struck me odd that the Khufu Wadi al-Jarf papyrus has both Khnum Khuf and Khufu cartouches not to mention Khufu's serekh:


Khnum Khuf also appears on the blocks:

So, on one piece the author Merer includes the Khnum Khuf cartouche and his serekh but no Khufu cartouche. Yet on the other it has only the Khufu cartouche. This is Merer's journal, an accounting ledger of sorts, which there seems little point he would use all 3 names for one king when writing for potentially only his own consumption and/or the bean counters back home. Are we really sure these all refer to the same person?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06-Jun-16 03:02 by Thanos5150.
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