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loveritas Wrote:
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> Hi T Bird,
>
> "Even if you had powered disc cutters with the
> large radius... How are they powered.....if the GP
> machine is not operating as a power server?"
>
> Having it confirmed that the Sun is an electric
> discharge and not a thermonuclear core was
> Big for me."
>
>
> So, what have we got?
>
> 1. A pyramid which clearly isn't a tomb on an
> elevated plateau.
>
Yes or nor, fair to say the jury is still outthere
> 2. An identical structure next to this pyramid
> minus the internal chambers (or so we're told).
definitely less sophisticated
why leave out MenkauRE ??
>
> 3. A city named by the Greeks as Heliopolis, which
> is the centre of worship of the Sun.
>
The earliest titular artifact from there ttbomk is a door arch attested to Khasekhemwy ( the last King to NOT employ the cartouche, unless very late in his reign so no examples have been found. Also he was responsible for replacing the the Horus Falcon onto the serekh after Peribsen's homage to Set on his serekh.
I agree with your original post that the development of Royal titulary is well known
> 4. Kings whose nomenclature includes the name Ra -
> symbolic of the Sun.
Many many from then on
>
> 5. A structure on the highest point of the area by
> someone called Djedefre whose name includes Ra and
> a Djed Pillar. This structure has no pyramidial
> qualities but looks like an excavated site for a
> tower.
>
It is the base of something, could be a pyramid..jury's still out there
> 6. A similar structure at Zawyet el Aryan which is
> in a direct line across Giza and which has
> enormous sockets capable of holding in place a
> tower.
But as this site is restricted by the Military , no definitive work has been done there for Decades
>
> 7. Nearby is the Sun Temple.
The Sun Temple became more and more prominent within each King's Funerary complex throughout the 5th and 6th dynasties , yes.
>
> 8. Just possibly the power came from the Sun.
> Perhaps not from solar heat, but from electrical
> energy. If we could find a Djed Pillar, that would
> help.
The power concerned was the Divine. What else could inspire an entire Culture? There certainly isn't any evidence that they benefitted from Electric power, that I know of. Unless one supposes that they used the energy to build the structures that they needed to create the energy...Huh? What!
Regardless, you definitely present your case from a knowledge of the historical record. Chris Dunn's work is pretty damn good too. But it's a long way from possible to plausible and on.
Besides, I don't mind feeding you the questions that allow you to elaborate.
Warwick
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> Hi T Bird,
>
> "Even if you had powered disc cutters with the
> large radius... How are they powered.....if the GP
> machine is not operating as a power server?"
>
> Having it confirmed that the Sun is an electric
> discharge and not a thermonuclear core was
> Big for me."
>
>
> So, what have we got?
>
> 1. A pyramid which clearly isn't a tomb on an
> elevated plateau.
>
Yes or nor, fair to say the jury is still outthere
> 2. An identical structure next to this pyramid
> minus the internal chambers (or so we're told).
definitely less sophisticated
why leave out MenkauRE ??
>
> 3. A city named by the Greeks as Heliopolis, which
> is the centre of worship of the Sun.
>
The earliest titular artifact from there ttbomk is a door arch attested to Khasekhemwy ( the last King to NOT employ the cartouche, unless very late in his reign so no examples have been found. Also he was responsible for replacing the the Horus Falcon onto the serekh after Peribsen's homage to Set on his serekh.
I agree with your original post that the development of Royal titulary is well known
> 4. Kings whose nomenclature includes the name Ra -
> symbolic of the Sun.
Many many from then on
>
> 5. A structure on the highest point of the area by
> someone called Djedefre whose name includes Ra and
> a Djed Pillar. This structure has no pyramidial
> qualities but looks like an excavated site for a
> tower.
>
It is the base of something, could be a pyramid..jury's still out there
> 6. A similar structure at Zawyet el Aryan which is
> in a direct line across Giza and which has
> enormous sockets capable of holding in place a
> tower.
But as this site is restricted by the Military , no definitive work has been done there for Decades
>
> 7. Nearby is the Sun Temple.
The Sun Temple became more and more prominent within each King's Funerary complex throughout the 5th and 6th dynasties , yes.
>
> 8. Just possibly the power came from the Sun.
> Perhaps not from solar heat, but from electrical
> energy. If we could find a Djed Pillar, that would
> help.
The power concerned was the Divine. What else could inspire an entire Culture? There certainly isn't any evidence that they benefitted from Electric power, that I know of. Unless one supposes that they used the energy to build the structures that they needed to create the energy...Huh? What!
Regardless, you definitely present your case from a knowledge of the historical record. Chris Dunn's work is pretty damn good too. But it's a long way from possible to plausible and on.
Besides, I don't mind feeding you the questions that allow you to elaborate.
Warwick
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