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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Martin Stower Wrote:
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> > He does this again and again (and no, I am not
> > going to waste my time searching for and citing
> > the individual posts). He says things and then
> > “forgets” he’s said them. I don’t buy it
> > for a moment.
> >
> > He’s come out with this “60 years” BS in
> > post after post. Those interested may find them
> > via the following potted search:
> >
> > [grahamhancock.com]
>
> Perhaps those interested can tell me whether
> Stower is accurate in accusing me of claiming in
> "post after post" that "no
> "Egyptologist"contradicted Reisner".

>
> Alternatively, allow me to save the readers some
> time. I just went through the 22 posts that
> resulted from the search in Stower's link, and in
> none of them do I state that no Egyptologist ever
> contradicted Reisner. I only stated the discipline
> of Egyptology hasn't challenged Reisner's
> narrative. Rather, mainstream Egyptology still
> embraces the majority of Reisner's narrative to
> this day even though the entire narrative is a
> complete fabrication based on what he found in
> G7000x. The fact that luminaries such as Edwards,
> Lehner, and Romer all report Reisner's
> speculations as accepted fact to this day confirms
> that Egyptology has not yet challenged Reisner's
> narrative despite Lehner's and Münch's direct
> rebuttals. Apparently, while some Egyptologists
> question whether Hetepheres was buried in Dashur,
> there still seems to be widespread mainstream
> agreement that Hetepheres was indeed the wife of
> Sneferu and the mother of Khufu, and that G7000x
> represent a reburial - Münch being the only
> exception I am aware of since he has proposed that
> G7000x was merely a funerary deposit of personal
> artifacts and not a tomb for Hetepheres.

You expect people to fall for this? You didn’t say it in so many words, so you didn’t say it?

As I say, those interested (and I doubt there are many) can follow the link and make up their own minds.

If you weren’t clear in all of them, you made yourself abundantly clear here:

http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,1050359,1053561#msg-1053561

Warwick: “Hetepheres demonstrates that Egyptology is not frozen in time as well.”

Femano: “Maybe not frozen, but certainly extremely sluggish. It demonstrates the inertia against acknowledging the errors. Reisner's story about Hetepheres went unchallenged for 60 years before Lehner spoke up about it. . . .”

Could we have verbatim quotes of Edwards, Lehner and Romer, reporting Reisner’s speculations as “accepted fact to this day”?

In A History of Ancient Egypt (2012), Romer wrote this: “In explanation of Hetep-heres’s absence, the normally taciturn Reisner proposed an Ali Baba-ry of tales. More recent and less elaborate hypotheses have proposed that she may originally have been buried with her grave goods in a full-sized burial chamber underneath a modest pyramid . . . .”

Where is the “accepted fact to this day”?

Nearest is what Lehner wrote in his paper of 1985: “There is no textual evidence, contemporary with the 4th Dynasty or from later times, for the plundering of this tomb and the transfer of its contents to Giza. Reisner’s reconstruction of events is based entirely upon the archaeological evidence gathered from G7000x. Nevertheless, his scenario was passed down in the literature, e.g. The Cambridge Ancient History (Smith 1971, 168), as historical fact.”

Those of us who understand the words used will understand what Lehner was saying. There is no historical (written) evidence for Reisner’s scenario, but nevertheless it was passed down in the literature (example specified) as historical fact—which is not at all the same as saying it was unchallenged. Even if Lehner thought so, the evidence says otherwise.

In The Legacy of Egypt (1942, ed. S. R. K. Glanville, not the same as the later volume of the same title, ed. J. R. Harris) we find this: “The ingenious theory has been suggested that the former tomb at Dahshûr was plundered, and its contents transferred to a specially built hiding-place at Gîzeh.”

Again, those who know how to read will know what to make of this.

Get over yourself, Femano. You’re a pretentious sub-amateur who can’t even read the inscriptions, as demonstrated by your curious puzzlement over why this Hetepheres is identified as wife of Seneferu and mother of Khufu.

Edited 2017-03-12 to fix a spelling.

M.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12-Mar-17 23:34 by Martin Stower.

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Creighton Persists Part 2 4227 JonnyMcA 19-May-16 14:30
That chemical analysis . . . 739 Martin Stower 19-May-16 17:30
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 660 Origyptian 19-May-16 20:50
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 638 Jon Ellison 19-May-16 21:31
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 610 Martin Stower 19-May-16 22:01
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 599 Martin Stower 19-May-16 21:42
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 574 Origyptian 19-May-16 22:12
The unfounded accusations continue..... 694 DScribr 19-May-16 22:46
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 678 Martin Stower 20-May-16 00:14
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 595 Thanos5150 20-May-16 00:35
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 497 Jon Ellison 20-May-16 01:57
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 602 Origyptian 20-May-16 02:47
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 486 Jon Ellison 20-May-16 03:20
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 570 Martin Stower 20-May-16 19:10
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 602 DScribr 20-May-16 23:23
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 586 Jon Ellison 20-May-16 23:35
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 568 DScribr 20-May-16 23:40
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 540 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:07
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 446 DScribr 20-May-16 02:58
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 593 Martin Stower 19-May-16 22:55
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 596 DScribr 19-May-16 22:43
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 597 Martin Stower 19-May-16 23:30
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 638 Origyptian 20-May-16 02:48
The lack of analysis . . . 699 DScribr 20-May-16 03:05
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 631 Audrey 20-May-16 04:13
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 562 Jon Ellison 20-May-16 06:58
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 590 DScribr 20-May-16 23:42
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 719 Origyptian 20-May-16 15:46
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 544 Martin Stower 21-May-16 01:28
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 546 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:32
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 586 Martin Stower 21-May-16 02:07
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 570 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 06:43
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 585 Origyptian 21-May-16 14:58
So much for chemical analysis . . . 572 DScribr 21-May-16 19:54
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 573 Martin Stower 21-May-16 22:49
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 564 Martin Stower 21-May-16 23:00
Re: What's the end game with this? 670 Thunderbird 20-May-16 17:20
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 566 Martin Stower 20-May-16 19:04
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 553 Audrey 20-May-16 22:43
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 507 Martin Stower 20-May-16 22:54
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 547 Audrey 20-May-16 23:12
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 488 Martin Stower 20-May-16 23:52
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 566 Audrey 21-May-16 00:33
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 638 Martin Stower 21-May-16 00:45
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 482 DScribr 21-May-16 01:35
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 429 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:06
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 513 Martin Stower 21-May-16 01:33
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 584 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:36
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 779 Martin Stower 21-May-16 02:49
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 630 Martin Stower 20-May-16 18:28
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 635 Origyptian 20-May-16 20:00
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 544 Thanos5150 20-May-16 20:13
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 577 Origyptian 20-May-16 21:03
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 572 Martin Stower 20-May-16 23:44
Höfer and Görlitz meet Stein 513 Martin Stower 21-May-16 00:36
Re: Höfer and Görlitz meet Stein 488 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:23
Re: Höfer and Görlitz meet Stein 703 Martin Stower 21-May-16 01:55
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 558 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:34
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 578 Martin Stower 21-May-16 03:15
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 502 Origyptian 21-May-16 04:08
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 570 Martin Stower 21-May-16 23:33
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 670 Origyptian 22-May-16 00:09
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 523 Martin Stower 22-May-16 00:49
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 615 Origyptian 22-May-16 00:57
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 588 Origyptian 22-May-16 01:11
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 573 Jon Ellison 22-May-16 01:14
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 604 Martin Stower 22-May-16 01:51
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 556 Origyptian 22-May-16 04:21
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 605 Martin Stower 22-May-16 14:20
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 561 Origyptian 22-May-16 17:32
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 616 Martin Stower 22-May-16 18:33
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 571 Origyptian 22-May-16 20:34
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 497 Martin Stower 22-May-16 21:30
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 595 Origyptian 22-May-16 23:04
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 616 Martin Stower 23-May-16 00:03
Re: That chemical analysis is all but forgotten...... 553 DScribr 23-May-16 03:11
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 593 Richard Fusniak 21-May-16 08:47
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 566 Origyptian 21-May-16 13:26
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 534 Martin Stower 22-May-16 00:32
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 560 Origyptian 22-May-16 00:50
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 589 Martin Stower 22-May-16 01:39
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 486 Origyptian 22-May-16 04:45
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 498 Martin Stower 22-May-16 16:13
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 493 Martin Stower 21-May-16 22:44
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 699 Origyptian 21-May-16 23:58
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 544 Martin Stower 22-May-16 01:28
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 780 Martin Stower 20-May-16 22:44
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 543 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:41
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 616 Martin Stower 21-May-16 03:28
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 616 Origyptian 21-May-16 04:14
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 458 Martin Stower 21-May-16 23:11
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 605 Thanos5150 19-May-16 22:50
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 582 Martin Stower 19-May-16 23:18
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 488 DScribr 20-May-16 03:07
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 585 Origyptian 20-May-16 02:52
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 527 DScribr 20-May-16 03:12
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 597 Thanos5150 20-May-16 05:20
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 494 Origyptian 20-May-16 13:36
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 610 Thanos5150 20-May-16 17:57
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 600 Jon Ellison 20-May-16 18:56
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 587 Martin Stower 20-May-16 19:23
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 658 Thanos5150 20-May-16 19:27
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 522 Jon Ellison 20-May-16 19:29
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 555 Audrey 20-May-16 21:02
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 573 Origyptian 20-May-16 21:12
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 548 Jon Ellison 20-May-16 21:26
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 619 Thanos5150 20-May-16 22:08
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 620 Audrey 20-May-16 22:34
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 506 Thanos5150 20-May-16 22:36
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 607 Audrey 20-May-16 22:47
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 499 Thanos5150 20-May-16 23:00
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 518 Audrey 20-May-16 23:11
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 497 Thanos5150 21-May-16 00:01
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 514 Audrey 21-May-16 00:23
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 564 Thanos5150 21-May-16 03:14
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 554 Audrey 21-May-16 05:02
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 498 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 09:10
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 622 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 09:28
The chemical analysis is of little help without R-C Dating 682 DScribr 21-May-16 13:37
Re: The chemical analysis is of little help without R-C Dating 504 Origyptian 21-May-16 13:56
Re: The chemical analysis is of little help without R-C Dating 548 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 17:48
Willful ignorance continues....... 587 DScribr 21-May-16 19:49
Re: Willful ignorance continues....... 608 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 21:28
Re: Stealing IS a crime! Willful ignorance continues....... 502 DScribr 22-May-16 00:39
Re: The chemical analysis is of little help without R-C Dating 601 Richard Fusniak 21-May-16 18:17
Re: The chemical analysis is of little help without R-C Dating 476 DScribr 21-May-16 19:57
Re: The chemical analysis is of little help without R-C Dating 604 Richard Fusniak 21-May-16 20:24
Stealing IS A Crime!!! 586 DScribr 22-May-16 00:32
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 580 Origyptian 21-May-16 15:04
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 498 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 17:53
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 557 Origyptian 21-May-16 21:39
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 559 Jon Ellison 22-May-16 00:46
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 509 Martin Stower 21-May-16 00:09
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 592 Audrey 21-May-16 00:26
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 589 Martin Stower 21-May-16 00:42
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 556 Audrey 21-May-16 01:04
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 628 Martin Stower 21-May-16 01:41
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 576 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 11:00
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 545 DScribr 21-May-16 01:44
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 542 Origyptian 20-May-16 19:25
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 556 Thanos5150 20-May-16 19:31
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 506 Origyptian 20-May-16 20:35
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 584 Thanos5150 20-May-16 22:03
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 506 Origyptian 20-May-16 22:38
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 584 Thanos5150 20-May-16 22:52
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 522 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:31
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 594 Martin Stower 21-May-16 01:05
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 519 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:27
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 537 Martin Stower 21-May-16 03:31
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 525 Audrey 21-May-16 01:42
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 645 Martin Stower 21-May-16 03:34
Pending statement from Dr. Gorlitz 871 Richard Fusniak 20-May-16 12:04
Re: Pending statement from Dr. Gorlitz 616 Martin Stower 20-May-16 19:25
Martin Persists 656 drrayeye 23-May-16 01:30
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Mainstream Persists 646 DScribr 25-May-16 00:56
Re: Martin Persists 714 Merrell 28-May-16 09:00
Re: Martin Persists 546 Martin Stower 28-May-16 11:11
as long as we are counting 644 Warwick 25-May-16 16:42
Re: as long as we are counting 604 DScribr 26-May-16 01:53
Re: as long as we are counting 643 cladking 26-May-16 16:57
Re: as long as we are counting 567 Martin Stower 26-May-16 17:31
Re: as long as we are counting 572 Origyptian 26-May-16 17:40
Re: as long as we are counting 509 cladking 27-May-16 00:21
Re: as long as we are counting 582 Warwick 27-May-16 01:27
Re: as long as we are counting 394 Origyptian 27-May-16 02:53
And work hard at obfuscation. 466 DScribr 27-May-16 00:57
Re: And work hard at obfuscation. 528 cladking 27-May-16 02:55
Re: as long as we are counting 506 Warwick 27-May-16 01:29
Re: as long as we are counting 600 cladking 27-May-16 02:59
Re: as long as we are counting 580 Warwick 27-May-16 03:35
Re: as long as we are counting 557 Audrey 27-May-16 04:32
Re: as long as we are counting 544 Warwick 27-May-16 05:34
Re: as long as we are counting 613 cladking 27-May-16 13:35
Re: as long as we are counting 568 Warwick 27-May-16 14:56
The original page on Indiegogo etc. 655 Martin Stower 25-May-16 22:10
Another performance . . . 552 Martin Stower 26-May-16 13:47
Re: Another performance . . . 497 Warwick 26-May-16 13:57
Re: Another performance . . . 440 Origyptian 26-May-16 14:53
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Re: Another performance . . . 609 Martin Stower 26-May-16 18:29
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Re: Another performance . . . 579 cladking 27-May-16 02:07
Re: Another performance . . . 520 Warwick 27-May-16 02:15
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Re: Another performance . . . 571 Warwick 27-May-16 05:18
NOT Primitive, Low-Tech 508 DScribr 28-May-16 14:09
Re: NOT Primitive, Low-Tech 558 cladking 28-May-16 14:31
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Re: Another performance . . . 600 cladking 26-May-16 17:40
Re: Another performance . . . 576 Martin Stower 26-May-16 17:49
Re: Another performance . . . 598 cladking 27-May-16 00:15
Re: Another performance . . . 582 Martin Stower 27-May-16 19:17
Re: Another performance . . . 600 Warwick 27-May-16 20:00
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Re: Another performance . . . 634 Martin Stower 27-May-16 23:06
Re: Oops....we missed the Basalt flooring and machine disc cuts 438 Thunderbird 27-May-16 23:28
Re: Oops....we missed the Basalt flooring and machine disc cuts 627 Martin Stower 27-May-16 23:41
Re: Another performance . . . 579 cladking 28-May-16 00:33
Re: Another performance . . . 588 Martin Stower 28-May-16 00:59
Re: Another performance . . . 557 cladking 28-May-16 02:36
Re: Another performance . . . 547 Martin Stower 28-May-16 23:55
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Re: Another performance . . . 604 cladking 28-May-16 13:40
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Re: Another performance . . . 558 Jon Ellison 28-May-16 16:38
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Focus on the axiom 533 Origyptian 29-May-16 15:27
Re: Focus on everything BUT the facts 619 DScribr 29-May-16 15:41
Re: Focus on everything BUT the facts 497 cladking 29-May-16 17:29
Re: Focus on the axiom 479 Thanos5150 30-May-16 01:49
Re: Focus on the axiom 549 Origyptian 30-May-16 05:32
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Re: Focus on the axiom 563 Origyptian 31-May-16 06:41
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Re: Focus on reality. 528 DScribr 01-Jun-16 00:51
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Re: Focus on the axiom 535 cladking 02-Jun-16 04:00
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Re: Focus on the axiom 500 cladking 02-Jun-16 18:20
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Re: Focus on the axiom 549 R Avry Wilson 03-Jun-16 18:43
Re: Focus on the axiom 537 Origyptian 03-Jun-16 21:24
Re: Focus on the axiom 529 Corpuscles 03-Jun-16 23:59
Re: Focus on the axiom 392 Origyptian 04-Jun-16 06:29
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Re: Focus on the axiom 449 Origyptian 04-Jun-16 07:02
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Re: Focus on the axiom 528 Martin Stower 03-Jun-16 22:28
Re: Focus on the axiom 519 cladking 03-Jun-16 22:51
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Re: Focus on the axiom 532 Origyptian 05-Jun-16 01:25
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Re: Focus on the axiom 530 Origyptian 05-Jun-16 17:29
Re: Focus on the axiom 565 Martin Stower 05-Jun-16 19:35
Re: Focus on the axiom 576 Origyptian 05-Jun-16 22:48
Re: Focus on the axiom 495 Martin Stower 05-Jun-16 23:47
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Re: Focus on the axiom 464 Audrey 06-Jun-16 04:59
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Re: Focus on the axiom 478 Origyptian 06-Jun-16 14:00
Re: Focus on the axiom 525 cladking 06-Jun-16 16:13
Re: Focus on the axiom 486 Corpuscles 07-Jun-16 00:20
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Read what I wrote 438 Warwick 07-Jun-16 17:15
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Re: Read what I wrote 460 Martin Stower 08-Jun-16 01:40
Re: Read what I wrote 622 Audrey 08-Jun-16 01:52
Re: Read what I wrote 492 Martin Stower 08-Jun-16 13:47
Vyse's veracity.... 477 Warwick 09-Jun-16 16:29
Re: Vyse's veracity.... 403 Audrey 09-Jun-16 16:51
Re: Vyse's veracity.... 511 Warwick 09-Jun-16 17:19
Re: Vyse's veracity.... 546 Audrey 09-Jun-16 17:45
Wilkinson's opinions 468 Warwick 09-Jun-16 18:47
Re: Wilkinson's opinions 482 Origyptian 09-Jun-16 20:57
Ori's opinions 634 DScribr 10-Jun-16 01:45
Re: The incredible Teflon Red Ochre 458 Thunderbird 10-Jun-16 04:07
Re: The incredible Teflon Red Ochre 581 Martin Stower 10-Jun-16 14:49
Re: The incredible Red Ochre lasted 4500 yrs. 498 DScribr 11-Jun-16 00:40
Re: Wilkinson's opinions 431 Martin Stower 10-Jun-16 02:28
Re: Wilkinson's opinions 418 Audrey 10-Jun-16 03:05
Re: Wilkinson's opinions 555 Martin Stower 10-Jun-16 14:09
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Re: Bibliography 539 Origyptian 10-Jun-16 21:54
Re: Bibliography 557 Corpuscles 10-Jun-16 23:45
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Re: Bibliography 508 Corpuscles 11-Jun-16 22:36
Re: Bibliography 462 Audrey 11-Jun-16 23:08
Re: Bibliography 492 Corpuscles 11-Jun-16 23:26
Re: Bibliography 397 Audrey 12-Jun-16 02:30
Re: Bibliography 445 Corpuscles 12-Jun-16 03:19
Re: Bibliography 390 Audrey 12-Jun-16 03:32
Re: Bibliography 432 Corpuscles 12-Jun-16 03:40
Re: Bibliography 441 Audrey 12-Jun-16 03:50
Re: Bibliography 398 Corpuscles 12-Jun-16 04:30
Re: Bibliography 392 Audrey 12-Jun-16 04:47
Re: Bibliography 369 Corpuscles 12-Jun-16 05:02
Re: Bibliography 515 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 10:49
Re: Bibliography 466 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 15:56
Re: Bibliography 392 R Avry Wilson 12-Jun-16 17:41
But Avry.. 441 Warwick 12-Jun-16 17:58
Re: But Avry.. 554 R Avry Wilson 12-Jun-16 18:14
Re: But Avry.. 510 Audrey 12-Jun-16 18:37
Re: But Avry.. 488 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 20:15
Re: But Avry.. 492 Audrey 12-Jun-16 18:44
Re: But Avry.. 460 Warwick 12-Jun-16 18:59
Re: But Avry.. 452 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 20:11
This whole discussion is a boondoggle 520 DScribr 13-Jun-16 01:04
Re: This whole discussion is a boondoggle 499 Warwick 13-Jun-16 16:24
Re: Bibliography 372 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 10:28
Re: Bibliography 462 Origyptian 11-Jun-16 23:35
Re: Bibliography 487 Corpuscles 11-Jun-16 23:58
Re: Bibliography 465 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 00:48
Re: Bibliography 502 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 01:13
Re: Bibliography 541 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 01:33
Re: Bibliography 555 Martin Stower 11-Jun-16 02:05
Re: Bibliography 519 Origyptian 11-Jun-16 18:09
Re: Bibliography 509 Martin Stower 11-Jun-16 19:22
Re: Bibliography 456 Origyptian 11-Jun-16 19:56
Re: Bibliography 376 Martin Stower 11-Jun-16 20:47
Re: Bibliography 501 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 00:03
Re: Bibliography 483 Corpuscles 12-Jun-16 00:22
Re: Bibliography 383 Audrey 12-Jun-16 01:58
Re: Bibliography 520 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 02:24
Re: Bibliography 434 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 12:23
Re: Bibliography 466 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 14:50
Re: Bibliography 479 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 16:46
Re: Bibliography 391 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 00:10
Re: Bibliography 484 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 00:18
Re: Bibliography 476 Corpuscles 12-Jun-16 00:35
Re: Bibliography 540 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 00:39
Re: Bibliography 433 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 01:23
Re: Bibliography 437 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 02:18
Re: Bibliography 387 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 13:55
Re: Bibliography 455 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 15:45
Re: Bibliography 482 R Avry Wilson 12-Jun-16 17:32
Re: Bibliography 430 Warwick 12-Jun-16 17:41
Re: Bibliography 484 R Avry Wilson 12-Jun-16 18:08
Re: Bibliography 473 Audrey 12-Jun-16 18:48
Re: Bibliography 470 Audrey 12-Jun-16 18:35
Re: Bibliography 424 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 19:09
Gonna ignore the noise and try again 470 Warwick 12-Jun-16 19:53
Re: Gonna ignore the noise and try again 478 Thunderbird 12-Jun-16 20:18
Re: Gonna ignore the noise and try again 436 Audrey 12-Jun-16 21:04