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> Where did I say I thought Reisner was part of a
> conspiracy?

You have repeatedly stated or implied Reiser's narrative to be a deliberate attempt to deceive an "unsuspecting world" and the like.

> Opinion? Lehner has a rather different take than
> you do:
>
>
    "The hypothetical original
    > tomb of Hetep-heres I at Dahshur has not
    > been found
    (the only evidence for this
    > queen's existence comes from G7000x). There is
    > no textual evidence, contemporary
    > with the 4th Dynasty or from later times, for the
    > plundering of this tomb and the transfer of its
    > contents to Giza. Reisner's reconstruction of
    > events is based entirely upon the archaeological
    > evidence gathered from G7000x. Nevertheless, his
    > scenario was passed down in the literature, e.g.
    > The Cambridge Ancient History (Smith
    > 1971, 168), as historical fact."

Not at all. Lehner tells you in the first sentence you quote the tomb of Hetepheres I at Dahshur was "hypothetical" which is clear from reading Reisner, and further refers to Reisner's theory as a "reconstruction of events" (partly based on such "hypotheticals") and a "scenario" based solely on evidence gathered from G7000x which beyond that is part of Reisner's theory. The fault it was ever passed off as "historical fact" was not some wilful "deception" as you make it out to be on Reisner's part, but as should be gleaned from Lehner as well rather a reflection of the institutional inequity of those like Cambridge who compile and present this information to others. Reisner offered a theory which was clearly based on ample conjecture and it was the fault of others it was ever passed off as "fact".

> It's one thing to speculate a possible way the
> stuff could have gotten there, but it's entirely
> different to mislead the field to accept as fact
> that it is the tomb of Hetepheres I.

Reisner did no such thing. This is where the artifacts were found and they do certainly appear to belong to Hetepheres I so to believe this the case, duh, is hardly some form of "deception". You have invented a conspiracy that otherwise does not exist.

> Lehner points
> out several faults in Reisner's reasoning, making
> it clear that what was found in G7000x contradicts
> Reisner's stated rationale.

No one ever said it was a good theory.

> This episode of Egyptology is an excellent example
> of differences in the standard of proof applied by
> different investigators across a span of time.

No, it is an excellent example of how the opinions of authorities are later passed off as fact when accepted without further scrutiny. Regardless, it was the norm amongst antiquarians of the day, and really expected of them, to offer such "hypotheticals", "stories" if you will, to create a narrative around such discoveries which as we can see still happens in the field today.

> It
> seems that Reisner really did not think that
> through very well,

I don't think this is uncommon even today.

> and the standards of his day
> did not hold him as accountable as today's
> standards would.

The "standards of his day", as now, allow for professionals to offer their theories on such matters, good or bad, which is exactly what Reisner did. Again, it is not Reisner's fault his opinions were ever passed off as "fact".

> This is why other, older tenets need to be
> revisited, too.

No, "this" is not why. Because Reisner had a theory that didn't pan out about how the minutia of one set of artifacts or people on an internet forum have questioned the ambiguity regarding the position of how a Khufu boundary marker was found, therefore means all bets are off and this makes it possible all the megalithic monuments in Egypt were built by an antediluvian lost civilization? Its laughable you take Reisner to task for his imagination yet you offer the patently bizarre suggestion that instead of Khufu's boundary marker being what it is it is actually "a modern gravestone indicating that" Khufu" was the name of the local family dog". I don't know what is worse the fact you could ever think of something so absurd in the first place or continue to repeat it after the fact when it has already been discussed at length it was found at an OK/MK quarry in the middle of nowhere of which we know 4th Dynasty statuary was made from stone that came from here. Talk about trying to "mislead" people.

Regardless, you have created strawmen with no straw. These finds are irrelevant to any "tenets" and though there are other reasons to revisit them these are otherwise meaningless non-examples of such.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01-Jun-16 01:10 by Thanos5150.

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That chemical analysis . . . 746 Martin Stower 19-May-16 17:30
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Re: That chemical analysis . . . 641 Jon Ellison 19-May-16 21:31
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Re: That chemical analysis . . . 602 Martin Stower 19-May-16 21:42
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 578 Origyptian 19-May-16 22:12
The unfounded accusations continue..... 698 DScribr 19-May-16 22:46
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 682 Martin Stower 20-May-16 00:14
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 600 Thanos5150 20-May-16 00:35
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 501 Jon Ellison 20-May-16 01:57
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 605 Origyptian 20-May-16 02:47
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 491 Jon Ellison 20-May-16 03:20
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 573 Martin Stower 20-May-16 19:10
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 605 DScribr 20-May-16 23:23
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 588 Jon Ellison 20-May-16 23:35
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 572 DScribr 20-May-16 23:40
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 544 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:07
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 449 DScribr 20-May-16 02:58
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 597 Martin Stower 19-May-16 22:55
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 600 DScribr 19-May-16 22:43
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 601 Martin Stower 19-May-16 23:30
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 642 Origyptian 20-May-16 02:48
The lack of analysis . . . 701 DScribr 20-May-16 03:05
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 635 Audrey 20-May-16 04:13
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 565 Jon Ellison 20-May-16 06:58
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 593 DScribr 20-May-16 23:42
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 724 Origyptian 20-May-16 15:46
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 548 Martin Stower 21-May-16 01:28
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 550 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:32
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 590 Martin Stower 21-May-16 02:07
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 573 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 06:43
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 589 Origyptian 21-May-16 14:58
So much for chemical analysis . . . 577 DScribr 21-May-16 19:54
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 577 Martin Stower 21-May-16 22:49
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 570 Martin Stower 21-May-16 23:00
Re: What's the end game with this? 674 Thunderbird 20-May-16 17:20
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Re: That chemical analysis . . . 558 Audrey 20-May-16 22:43
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 510 Martin Stower 20-May-16 22:54
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Re: That chemical analysis . . . 633 Martin Stower 20-May-16 18:28
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Höfer and Görlitz meet Stein 517 Martin Stower 21-May-16 00:36
Re: Höfer and Görlitz meet Stein 494 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:23
Re: Höfer and Görlitz meet Stein 708 Martin Stower 21-May-16 01:55
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Re: That chemical analysis . . . 619 Martin Stower 23-May-16 00:03
Re: That chemical analysis is all but forgotten...... 557 DScribr 23-May-16 03:11
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Re: That chemical analysis . . . 569 Origyptian 21-May-16 13:26
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Re: That chemical analysis . . . 546 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:41
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Re: That chemical analysis . . . 501 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 09:10
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 624 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 09:28
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Re: The chemical analysis is of little help without R-C Dating 509 Origyptian 21-May-16 13:56
Re: The chemical analysis is of little help without R-C Dating 551 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 17:48
Willful ignorance continues....... 590 DScribr 21-May-16 19:49
Re: Willful ignorance continues....... 614 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 21:28
Re: Stealing IS a crime! Willful ignorance continues....... 506 DScribr 22-May-16 00:39
Re: The chemical analysis is of little help without R-C Dating 605 Richard Fusniak 21-May-16 18:17
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Re: The chemical analysis is of little help without R-C Dating 611 Richard Fusniak 21-May-16 20:24
Stealing IS A Crime!!! 590 DScribr 22-May-16 00:32
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Re: That chemical analysis . . . 503 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 17:53
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Re: That chemical analysis . . . 650 Martin Stower 21-May-16 03:34
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Re: as long as we are counting 590 Warwick 27-May-16 01:27
Re: as long as we are counting 397 Origyptian 27-May-16 02:53
And work hard at obfuscation. 471 DScribr 27-May-16 00:57
Re: And work hard at obfuscation. 533 cladking 27-May-16 02:55
Re: as long as we are counting 509 Warwick 27-May-16 01:29
Re: as long as we are counting 605 cladking 27-May-16 02:59
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The original page on Indiegogo etc. 660 Martin Stower 25-May-16 22:10
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NOT Primitive, Low-Tech 512 DScribr 28-May-16 14:09
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Re: Focus on reality. 532 DScribr 01-Jun-16 00:51
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Read what I wrote 440 Warwick 07-Jun-16 17:15
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Re: Read what I wrote 497 Martin Stower 08-Jun-16 13:47
Vyse's veracity.... 481 Warwick 09-Jun-16 16:29
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Re: Vyse's veracity.... 516 Warwick 09-Jun-16 17:19
Re: Vyse's veracity.... 549 Audrey 09-Jun-16 17:45
Wilkinson's opinions 470 Warwick 09-Jun-16 18:47
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Ori's opinions 640 DScribr 10-Jun-16 01:45
Re: The incredible Teflon Red Ochre 463 Thunderbird 10-Jun-16 04:07
Re: The incredible Teflon Red Ochre 584 Martin Stower 10-Jun-16 14:49
Re: The incredible Red Ochre lasted 4500 yrs. 504 DScribr 11-Jun-16 00:40
Re: Wilkinson's opinions 437 Martin Stower 10-Jun-16 02:28
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Re: Bibliography 400 Audrey 12-Jun-16 02:30
Re: Bibliography 449 Corpuscles 12-Jun-16 03:19
Re: Bibliography 395 Audrey 12-Jun-16 03:32
Re: Bibliography 436 Corpuscles 12-Jun-16 03:40
Re: Bibliography 447 Audrey 12-Jun-16 03:50
Re: Bibliography 402 Corpuscles 12-Jun-16 04:30
Re: Bibliography 395 Audrey 12-Jun-16 04:47
Re: Bibliography 374 Corpuscles 12-Jun-16 05:02
Re: Bibliography 520 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 10:49
Re: Bibliography 471 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 15:56
Re: Bibliography 396 R Avry Wilson 12-Jun-16 17:41
But Avry.. 447 Warwick 12-Jun-16 17:58
Re: But Avry.. 556 R Avry Wilson 12-Jun-16 18:14
Re: But Avry.. 513 Audrey 12-Jun-16 18:37
Re: But Avry.. 491 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 20:15
Re: But Avry.. 494 Audrey 12-Jun-16 18:44
Re: But Avry.. 464 Warwick 12-Jun-16 18:59
Re: But Avry.. 461 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 20:11
This whole discussion is a boondoggle 524 DScribr 13-Jun-16 01:04
Re: This whole discussion is a boondoggle 502 Warwick 13-Jun-16 16:24
Re: Bibliography 375 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 10:28
Re: Bibliography 466 Origyptian 11-Jun-16 23:35
Re: Bibliography 489 Corpuscles 11-Jun-16 23:58
Re: Bibliography 469 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 00:48
Re: Bibliography 505 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 01:13
Re: Bibliography 543 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 01:33
Re: Bibliography 558 Martin Stower 11-Jun-16 02:05
Re: Bibliography 522 Origyptian 11-Jun-16 18:09
Re: Bibliography 515 Martin Stower 11-Jun-16 19:22
Re: Bibliography 459 Origyptian 11-Jun-16 19:56
Re: Bibliography 379 Martin Stower 11-Jun-16 20:47
Re: Bibliography 505 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 00:03
Re: Bibliography 488 Corpuscles 12-Jun-16 00:22
Re: Bibliography 386 Audrey 12-Jun-16 01:58
Re: Bibliography 522 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 02:24
Re: Bibliography 438 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 12:23
Re: Bibliography 471 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 14:50
Re: Bibliography 482 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 16:46
Re: Bibliography 395 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 00:10
Re: Bibliography 489 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 00:18
Re: Bibliography 482 Corpuscles 12-Jun-16 00:35
Re: Bibliography 544 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 00:39
Re: Bibliography 438 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 01:23
Re: Bibliography 442 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 02:18
Re: Bibliography 394 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 13:55
Re: Bibliography 460 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 15:45
Re: Bibliography 487 R Avry Wilson 12-Jun-16 17:32
Re: Bibliography 433 Warwick 12-Jun-16 17:41
Re: Bibliography 488 R Avry Wilson 12-Jun-16 18:08
Re: Bibliography 475 Audrey 12-Jun-16 18:48
Re: Bibliography 472 Audrey 12-Jun-16 18:35
Re: Bibliography 430 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 19:09
Gonna ignore the noise and try again 473 Warwick 12-Jun-16 19:53
Re: Gonna ignore the noise and try again 481 Thunderbird 12-Jun-16 20:18
Re: Gonna ignore the noise and try again 441 Audrey 12-Jun-16 21:04