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cladking Wrote:
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> I don't know why people can't just take Scott
> Creighton's points at face value and weigh them
> accordingly. He makes a fair case that Vyse
> created these glyphs. A few of his points may be
> weak but he has a great number of points.

And have you asked why he has this great number of points, when just a few strong ones would do it?

You say that “a few” of his points “may be” weak. Has he any strong ones? What are they?

No, he does not present a “fair” case. He presents the most unfair case imaginable.

> It might be more productive to work on getting
> actual testing done and then reported rather than
> attacking those who point out that the emperor
> lacks clothes.

It might be more productive to work on getting testing done than on claiming yet again that tests are necessary—but then, as we know, the challenge is an empty one. After the actions of Görlitz and Erdmann whose motive was this very same forgery claim, it’s never going to happen. Creighton’s remarks and your remarks lack connection with reality: they are empty rhetoric.

M.

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Creighton persists 3883 Martin Stower 30-Apr-16 23:26
Some may also be wondering . . . 701 Martin Stower 30-Apr-16 23:37
Re: Creighton persists 850 Frank D 30-Apr-16 23:41
On a natural reading . . . 859 Martin Stower 01-May-16 00:44
Re: On a natural reading . . . 623 Hanslune 01-May-16 05:25
Re: On a natural reading . . . 714 Martin Stower 01-May-16 13:53
Re: On a natural reading . . . 624 Hanslune 01-May-16 14:42
And who will guard the Guards? 632 LonelyAngel 09-May-16 09:08
Re: And who will guard the Guards? 799 Origyptian 09-May-16 12:47
Re: And who will guard the Guards? 651 DScribr 09-May-16 13:21
Re: And who will guard the Guards? 767 LonelyAngel 09-May-16 13:48
Re: And who will read his book? 581 DScribr 10-May-16 02:05
Re: And who will guard the Guards? 619 Martin Stower 16-May-16 23:01
Re: And who will guard the Guards? 662 Martin Stower 09-May-16 19:00
Re: And who will guard the Guards? 627 Corpuscles 09-May-16 20:07
Re: And who will accept the facts? 620 DScribr 10-May-16 02:21
Re: And who will accept the facts? 602 Corpuscles 10-May-16 03:01
Re: And who will accept the facts? 550 DScribr 10-May-16 03:30
Re: And who will accept the facts? 568 Corpuscles 10-May-16 03:47
Re: And who will accept the facts? 488 DScribr 10-May-16 13:32
Re: And who will accept the facts? 463 Harte 10-May-16 20:53
Re: And who will accept the facts? 579 Origyptian 10-May-16 21:14
Change Of Tune!?! 718 DScribr 11-May-16 01:54
The certainty of contamination 593 DScribr 11-May-16 01:44
Re: And who will accept the facts? 574 Frank D 11-May-16 23:40
Re: And who will accept the facts? 539 DScribr 12-May-16 02:52
Re: And who will guard the Henhouse??? 571 DScribr 10-May-16 02:11
Re: And who will guard the Henhouse??? 664 LonelyAngel 10-May-16 12:40
Re: And who will guard the Henhouse??? 563 Origyptian 10-May-16 13:16
Re: And who will guard the Henhouse??? 618 DScribr 10-May-16 13:35
Re: On reading about 'proof' 527 DScribr 07-May-16 15:56
Re: On reading about 'proof' 579 Jon Ellison 07-May-16 16:39
Re: Creighton persists 872 drrayeye 01-May-16 15:10
Re: Creighton persists 709 Martin Stower 01-May-16 16:21
Re: Attack!....Attack! 617 Thunderbird 01-May-16 22:47
Re: Attack!....Attack! 710 Martin Stower 01-May-16 23:19
Re: Attack!....Attack! 687 Hanslune 02-May-16 01:26
Re: Attack!....Attack! 679 Martin Stower 02-May-16 20:25
Re: Attack!....Attack! 704 Hanslune 02-May-16 21:12
Re: Creighton persists 728 cladking 02-May-16 00:22
Re: Creighton persists 680 Martin Stower 02-May-16 01:11
Re: Creighton persists 610 cladking 02-May-16 01:31
Re: Creighton persists 655 Martin Stower 02-May-16 20:03
Re: Creighton persists 629 cladking 03-May-16 00:50
Re: Creighton persists 600 Hanslune 03-May-16 06:00
Re: Creighton persists 574 Merrell 03-May-16 07:34
Re: Creighton persists 807 Origyptian 03-May-16 11:46
Re: Creighton persists 710 Martin Stower 03-May-16 14:01
Re: Creighton persists 773 Origyptian 03-May-16 21:55
Re: Creighton persists 683 Martin Stower 03-May-16 22:54
Re: Creighton persists 692 Origyptian 04-May-16 03:49
Re: Creighton persists 702 Thanos5150 03-May-16 18:26
Re: Creighton persists 671 Origyptian 03-May-16 21:09
Re: Creighton persists 732 Martin Stower 03-May-16 22:56
Re: Creighton persists 656 Origyptian 04-May-16 03:52
Re: Creighton persists 620 Martin Stower 04-May-16 17:54
Re: Creighton persists 608 Origyptian 04-May-16 21:06
Re: Creighton persists 924 Martin Stower 04-May-16 22:28
Re: Creighton persists 630 Harte 06-May-16 10:17
Re: Creighton persists 595 Origyptian 06-May-16 13:04
Re: Creighton persists 546 Martin Stower 06-May-16 15:35
Re: Creighton persists 610 Harte 06-May-16 16:50
Re: Creighton persists 592 Jon Ellison 06-May-16 17:33
Re: Creighton persists 529 Audrey 06-May-16 20:00
Re: Creighton persists 835 Jon Ellison 06-May-16 20:25
Re: Creighton persists 609 Jon Ellison 06-May-16 20:48
Re: Creighton persists 650 Archae Solenhofen 06-May-16 22:30
Re: Creighton persists 553 Jon Ellison 06-May-16 23:37
Re: Creighton persists 585 Martin Stower 07-May-16 00:02
Re: Creighton persists 583 Archae Solenhofen 07-May-16 00:33
Re: Creighton persists 654 Jon Ellison 07-May-16 01:07
Re: Creighton persists 595 Archae Solenhofen 07-May-16 01:55
Re: Creighton persists 455 Jon Ellison 07-May-16 02:03
Re: Creighton persists 737 Archae Solenhofen 07-May-16 05:06
Re: Creighton persists 489 Jon Ellison 07-May-16 10:39
Re: Creighton persists 525 Archae Solenhofen 07-May-16 16:38
Re: Creighton persists 560 Jon Ellison 07-May-16 17:03
Some "Engineer" 937 DScribr 08-May-16 20:54
Re: Some "Engineer" 556 Jon Ellison 08-May-16 21:00
Re: Some "Engineer" 648 Audrey 08-May-16 21:15
Re: Some "Engineer" 646 DScribr 08-May-16 21:33
Re: Some "Engineer" 614 Jon Ellison 08-May-16 21:44
Re: Creighton persists 640 Audrey 07-May-16 02:09
Re: Creighton persists 568 Jon Ellison 07-May-16 02:16
Re: Creighton persists 586 Luminescence 08-May-16 01:52
Another "Impossibility" 584 DScribr 08-May-16 21:36
Re: Creighton persists 586 Jon Ellison 07-May-16 02:23
Re: Creighton persists 713 Archae Solenhofen 07-May-16 05:16
my mysterious balls 652 Audrey 07-May-16 06:42
Re: Creighton persists 499 Origyptian 07-May-16 15:51
Re: Creighton persists 533 Archae Solenhofen 07-May-16 17:12
Re: Creighton persists 470 Jon Ellison 07-May-16 17:23
Re: Creighton persists 597 Archae Solenhofen 07-May-16 17:53
Re: Creighton persists 531 Jon Ellison 07-May-16 18:40
Re: Creighton persists 563 Audrey 07-May-16 19:30
Re: Creighton persists 528 Jon Ellison 07-May-16 20:11
Re: Creighton persists 542 Archae Solenhofen 08-May-16 00:06
Re: Creighton persists 601 Jon Ellison 08-May-16 01:23
Re: Creighton persists 532 Archae Solenhofen 08-May-16 09:48
Re: Creighton persists 471 Jon Ellison 08-May-16 11:34
Re: Creighton persists 511 Archae Solenhofen 08-May-16 17:32
Re: Creighton persists 513 Jon Ellison 08-May-16 20:07
Re: Creighton persists 592 Jon Ellison 08-May-16 20:24
Re: Creighton persists 494 Origyptian 09-May-16 02:37
Re: Creighton persists 453 Jon Ellison 09-May-16 10:32
Re: Creighton persists 554 Origyptian 09-May-16 12:58
Re: Creighton persists 600 Jon Ellison 09-May-16 13:25
Re: Creighton persists 485 Origyptian 09-May-16 13:30
Re: Creighton persists 514 Jon Ellison 09-May-16 13:33
Re: Creighton persists 510 Archae Solenhofen 08-May-16 20:44
Re: Creighton persists 551 Origyptian 08-May-16 15:31
Re: Creighton persists 453 Jon Ellison 08-May-16 16:17
Failure to acept the facts persists 542 DScribr 08-May-16 22:11
Re: Failure to acept the facts persists 602 Jon Ellison 08-May-16 22:26
Re: Failure to acept the facts persists 562 DScribr 09-May-16 00:29
Re: Creighton persists 521 Audrey 08-May-16 17:37
Re: Creighton persists 598 Archae Solenhofen 08-May-16 18:30
Re: Creighton persists 556 Audrey 08-May-16 18:52
Re: Creighton persists 627 Archae Solenhofen 08-May-16 20:13
Re: Creighton persists 509 Jon Ellison 08-May-16 20:20
Re: Creighton persists 555 Audrey 08-May-16 20:35
Re: Creighton persists 570 Archae Solenhofen 08-May-16 22:05
Re: Creighton persists 521 Audrey 08-May-16 23:05
Re: Creighton persists 515 Archae Solenhofen 09-May-16 00:11
Re: Creighton persists 574 Jon Ellison 09-May-16 00:35
Re: Creighton persists 474 Corpuscles 09-May-16 01:28
Re: Creighton persists 590 Origyptian 09-May-16 17:15
Re: Creighton persists 536 Corpuscles 09-May-16 19:40
Re: Creighton persists 491 Jon Ellison 09-May-16 20:02
Re: Creighton persists 544 Origyptian 09-May-16 21:25
Re: Creighton persists 638 Martin Stower 09-May-16 22:16
Re: Creighton persists 579 Origyptian 09-May-16 23:06
Re: Creighton persists 591 Jon Ellison 09-May-16 23:33
Re: Creighton persists 545 Martin Stower 09-May-16 23:41
Re: Creighton persists 581 Jon Ellison 09-May-16 23:45
Re: Creighton persists 615 Martin Stower 09-May-16 23:58
Re: Creighton persists 514 Jon Ellison 10-May-16 01:05
Re: Creighton persists 549 Martin Stower 10-May-16 19:32
Re: Creighton persists 597 Origyptian 10-May-16 20:31
Re: Creighton persists 566 Martin Stower 10-May-16 20:45
What Standards? 469 DScribr 10-May-16 02:37
Re: Creighton persists 451 Jon Ellison 10-May-16 14:45
Re: Creighton persists 503 Origyptian 10-May-16 14:53
Re: Creighton persists 571 Jon Ellison 10-May-16 15:00
Re: Creighton persists 587 Audrey 11-May-16 00:53
Re: Creighton persists 631 Martin Stower 11-May-16 01:43
Also . . . 560 Martin Stower 11-May-16 09:19
Re: Creighton persists 562 Origyptian 11-May-16 03:14
Re: Creighton persists 723 Martin Stower 11-May-16 10:17
Re: Creighton persists 641 Corpuscles 11-May-16 10:53
Re: Vessel manufacture 738 Thanos5150 11-May-16 17:24
Re: Vessel manufacture 487 Jon Ellison 11-May-16 18:11
Re: Vessel manufacture 742 Thanos5150 11-May-16 19:30
Re: Vessel manufacture 494 Origyptian 11-May-16 20:02
Re: Vessel manufacture 454 Thanos5150 11-May-16 20:26
Re: Vessel manufacture 508 Jon Ellison 11-May-16 20:36
Re: Vessel manufacture 530 Origyptian 11-May-16 20:58
Re: Vessel manufacture 486 Jon Ellison 11-May-16 21:07
Re: Vessel manufacture 487 Thanos5150 11-May-16 21:18
Re: Vessel manufacture 528 Origyptian 11-May-16 21:35
Re: Vessel manufacture 498 Thanos5150 11-May-16 21:49
Re: Vessel manufacture 428 Jon Ellison 11-May-16 21:58
Re: Vessel manufacture 486 Thanos5150 11-May-16 22:02
Re: Vessel manufacture 559 Origyptian 11-May-16 22:25
Re: Vessel manufacture 442 Origyptian 11-May-16 22:19
Re: Vessel manufacture 470 Origyptian 11-May-16 22:03
Re: Vessel manufacture 592 Thanos5150 11-May-16 22:15
Re: Vessel manufacture 508 Origyptian 11-May-16 22:26
Re: Vessel manufacture 494 Jon Ellison 11-May-16 21:41
Re: Vessel manufacture 461 Origyptian 11-May-16 20:41
Re: Vessel manufacture 458 Thanos5150 11-May-16 20:55
Re: Vessel manufacture 477 Origyptian 11-May-16 21:07
Re: Vessel manufacture 421 Audrey 11-May-16 21:12
Re: Vessel manufacture 468 Thanos5150 11-May-16 21:20
Re: Vessel manufacture 518 Origyptian 11-May-16 21:44
Re: Vessel manufacture 489 Thanos5150 11-May-16 21:58
Re: Vessel manufacture 518 Origyptian 11-May-16 22:23
Re: Vessel manufacture 504 Thanos5150 11-May-16 22:41
Re: Vessel manufacture 572 Audrey 11-May-16 21:56
Re: Vessel manufacture 454 Thanos5150 11-May-16 22:08
Re: Vessel manufacture 441 Thanos5150 11-May-16 21:35
Re: Vessel manufacture 456 Audrey 11-May-16 22:40
Re: Vessel manufacture 447 Thanos5150 11-May-16 22:44
Re: Vessel manufacture 479 Audrey 11-May-16 23:13
Re: Vessel manufacture 475 Thanos5150 12-May-16 00:26
Re: Vessel manufacture 434 Corpuscles 12-May-16 00:41
Re: Vessel manufacture 512 Thanos5150 12-May-16 01:13
Re: Vessel manufacture 520 Corpuscles 12-May-16 02:32
Re: Vessel manufacture 703 Thanos5150 12-May-16 06:10
Re: Vessel manufacture 557 Audrey 12-May-16 01:22
Re: Vessel manufacture 500 Thanos5150 12-May-16 01:52
Re: Vessel manufacture 470 Origyptian 12-May-16 02:26
Re: Vessel manufacture 397 Thanos5150 12-May-16 02:52
Re: Vessel manufacture 474 Martin Stower 12-May-16 21:22
Re: Vessel manufacture 482 Jon Ellison 12-May-16 02:01
Re: Vessel manufacture 423 Origyptian 12-May-16 02:20
Re: Vessel manufacture 468 Martin Stower 13-May-16 00:25
Re: Vessel manufacture 615 Martin Stower 12-May-16 13:23
Re: Vessel manufacture 520 Harte 12-May-16 22:15
Re: Vessel manufacture 460 Martin Stower 12-May-16 23:38
Re: Vessel manufacture 457 Thanos5150 13-May-16 00:28
Re: Vessel manufacture 458 Audrey 11-May-16 20:07
Re: Vessel manufacture 713 Origyptian 11-May-16 20:35
Re: Vessel manufacture 400 Origyptian 11-May-16 20:19
Re: Vessel manufacture 464 Jon Ellison 11-May-16 20:26
Re: Vessel manufacture 491 Origyptian 11-May-16 20:39
Re: Vessel manufacture 492 Jon Ellison 11-May-16 20:42
Re: Vessel manufacture 437 Origyptian 11-May-16 20:48
Re: Vessel manufacture 608 Corpuscles 11-May-16 23:52
Re: Vessel manufacture 595 Thanos5150 12-May-16 05:39
Re: Vessel manufacture 442 Corpuscles 12-May-16 08:12
Re: Vessel manufacture 452 DScribr 12-May-16 03:08
Re: Vessel manufacture 694 Audrey 11-May-16 19:55
Re: Vessel manufacture 517 Thanos5150 11-May-16 20:07
Re: Vessel manufacture 614 Origyptian 11-May-16 19:58
Re: Vessel manufacture 414 Corpuscles 11-May-16 23:25
Re: Vessel manufacture 467 Thanos5150 12-May-16 01:06
Re: Vessel manufacture 534 Audrey 12-May-16 01:47
Re: Vessel manufacture 438 Thanos5150 12-May-16 02:18
Re: Vessel manufacture 463 Martin Stower 13-May-16 00:03
Re: Vessel manufacture 536 Origyptian 12-May-16 02:34
Re: Vessel manufacture 479 Corpuscles 12-May-16 03:12
Re: Vessel manufacture 483 Thanos5150 12-May-16 04:05
Re: Vessel manufacture 463 Origyptian 12-May-16 04:23
Re: Vessel manufacture 522 Corpuscles 12-May-16 04:31
Re: Vessel manufacture 467 Audrey 12-May-16 06:44
Re: Vessel manufacture 428 Origyptian 12-May-16 04:16
Re: Vessel manufacture 554 Corpuscles 12-May-16 04:52
Re: Vessel manufacture 489 Origyptian 12-May-16 13:35
Re: Vessel manufacture 475 Martin Stower 12-May-16 21:49
Re: Vessel manufacture 475 Origyptian 12-May-16 22:07
Re: Vessel manufacture 474 Martin Stower 12-May-16 23:15
Re: Vessel manufacture 582 Origyptian 13-May-16 03:46
Re: Vessel manufacture 466 Martin Stower 13-May-16 18:31
Re: Vessel manufacture 393 DScribr 12-May-16 02:58
Re: Creighton persists 467 Martin Stower 12-May-16 11:42
Re: Creighton persists 449 Jon Ellison 11-May-16 11:00
Re: Creighton persists 480 Audrey 11-May-16 15:55
Re: Creighton persists 506 Jon Ellison 11-May-16 16:39
Re: Creighton persists 519 Audrey 09-May-16 01:44
Re: Creighton persists 568 Merrell 08-May-16 20:16
Re: Creighton persists 547 Audrey 08-May-16 20:36
Re: Creighton persists 573 Merrell 08-May-16 21:07
Re: Creighton persists 452 Audrey 08-May-16 21:10
Re: Creighton persists 554 Merrell 08-May-16 21:38
Re: Creighton persists 514 Audrey 08-May-16 21:59
Re: Creighton persists 505 Jon Ellison 08-May-16 21:27
Re: Creighton persists 517 Audrey 08-May-16 21:34
Re: Creighton persists 408 Origyptian 09-May-16 03:07
Re: Creighton persists 544 Audrey 09-May-16 03:18
Re: Creighton persists 476 Origyptian 09-May-16 04:06
Re: Creighton persists 527 Audrey 09-May-16 05:07
Re: Creighton persists 539 Origyptian 09-May-16 13:06
Re: Creighton persists 537 Jon Ellison 09-May-16 12:00
Re: Creighton persists 423 Origyptian 09-May-16 13:17
Re: Creighton persists 500 Jon Ellison 09-May-16 13:29
Re: Creighton persists 476 DScribr 09-May-16 13:30
Re: Creighton persists 501 Origyptian 09-May-16 02:09
Re: Creighton persists 500 Origyptian 09-May-16 01:49
Re: Creighton persists 571 Origyptian 08-May-16 02:13
Re: Creighton persists 320 Origyptian 08-May-16 02:07
Re: Drill baby drill.... 591 Thunderbird 08-May-16 02:41
Re: Drill baby drill.... 749 Origyptian 08-May-16 03:23
Re: Drill baby drill.... 615 Jon Ellison 08-May-16 11:38
We've been thru this 100 times. 471 DScribr 09-May-16 00:41
Re: We've been thru this 100 times. 620 Jon Ellison 09-May-16 01:00
Re: Drill baby drill.... 761 Harte 08-May-16 19:35
Re: Drill baby drill.... 538 DScribr 09-May-16 00:45
Re: Drill baby drill.... 551 Origyptian 09-May-16 02:14
Re: OK. ..let's do some flooring now 602 Thunderbird 08-May-16 19:41
Re: OK. ..let's do some flooring now 571 Audrey 08-May-16 20:49
Re: OK. ..let's do some flooring now 556 Jon Ellison 08-May-16 20:55
Re: OK. ..let's do some flooring now 447 Audrey 08-May-16 21:09
Re: OK. ..let's do some flooring now 441 Jon Ellison 08-May-16 21:14
Re: OK. ..let's do some flooring now 535 Audrey 08-May-16 21:22
Too much interpretation 483 DScribr 09-May-16 00:36
Re: Too much interpretation 448 Jon Ellison 09-May-16 00:41
Refusal Persists 462 DScribr 09-May-16 00:21
Re: Creighton persists 450 Audrey 07-May-16 02:02
Re: Creighton persists 549 Jon Ellison 07-May-16 02:55
Re: Creighton persists 560 Audrey 07-May-16 04:14
Re: Creighton persists 521 Origyptian 06-May-16 18:21
Re: Creighton persists 451 Audrey 06-May-16 19:03
Re: Creighton persists 608 Martin Stower 07-May-16 01:00
Re: Creighton persists 506 Origyptian 06-May-16 20:12
Logic rarely persists here. 580 DScribr 08-May-16 20:40
Re: Logic rarely persists here. 527 Corpuscles 08-May-16 21:51
Re: Logic rarely persists here. 548 Origyptian 09-May-16 03:20
Re: Logic rarely persists here. 508 Harte 09-May-16 21:18
Re: Logic rarely persists here. 526 DScribr 10-May-16 02:23
Re: Logic rarely persists here. 671 Corpuscles 10-May-16 03:11
Re: Logic rarely persists here. 548 DScribr 10-May-16 03:38
Re: Logic rarely persists here. 575 Corpuscles 10-May-16 03:54
Re: Logic rarely persists here. 502 DScribr 10-May-16 13:42
Re: Logic rarely persists here. 581 Harte 10-May-16 10:03
Re: Logic rarely persists here. 504 Jon Ellison 10-May-16 10:06
Re: Logic rarely persists here. 440 Origyptian 10-May-16 11:28
Re: Logic rarely persists here. 517 DScribr 10-May-16 13:44
Re: Logic rarely persists here. 675 Jon Ellison 10-May-16 14:06