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R Avry Wilson Wrote:
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> Yes, that's my thinking. It's not locked in by any
> means, but it is a strong candidate. I mean, sure
> there are possible events closer in time to the
> written accounts, however, I feel the archaic
> source is an excellent indicator for how the story
> become 'allegorical'. I think closer time frames
> could have led to more specific descriptions, for
> example, an actual, known geographical location
> for the flood(s).

If the event was c. 6,000BC it would still be at least another few millennia after the fact until the tale could have been written in prose form if at all. 2,000-3,000yrs of oral tradition is still a hell of a long time which without the uninterrupted cultural and civic stability seen with a culture like the Ubaid beginning directly after this time I have a hard time envisioning a stable enough environment such oral tradition could exist uninterrupted for so long.

C. 6,000BC:

The 8.2 kiloyear meltwater pulse event was likely caused from the collapse of the North American Laurentide ice sheet caused by the glacial Lake Agassiz suddenly draining into the Atlantic Ocean. This event has also been suggested by scientists to have been the cause of rising sea levels of the Indian Ocean at this time which permanently flooded a large area of land that is today the Persian Gulf including wiping out large stretches of Arabian Peninsula coastline. Massive Canadian melt may have triggered flood of biblical proportions
Lost ancient civilisation's ruins lie beneath Persian Gulf
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According to Jeffrey Rose, a Birmingham uni archaeologist, recent excavations and discoveries indicate that a large number of substantial and relatively sophisticated settlements sprang up around the shores of the Persian Gulf quite suddenly perhaps 7,500 years ago.

“Where before there had been but a handful of scattered hunting camps, suddenly, over 60 new archaeological sites appear virtually overnight,” says Rose. “These settlements boast well-built, permanent stone houses, long-distance trade networks, elaborately decorated pottery, domesticated animals, and even evidence for one of the oldest boats in the world.”
Source paper: New Light on Human Prehistory in the Arabo-Persian Gulf Oasis

Massive tsunami caused by large section of Mt Etna collapsing into Mediterranean:
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Numerical simulations support the occurrence of a catastrophic tsunami impacting all of the eastern Mediterranean in early Holocene. The tsunami was triggered by a debris avalanche from Mt. Etna (Sicily, Italy) which entered the Ionian Sea in the order of minutes. Simulations show that the resulting tsunami waves were able to destabilize soft marine sediments across the Ionian Sea floor. This generated the well-known, sporadically located, “homogenite” deposits of the Ionian Sea, and the widespread megaturbidite deposits of the Ionian and Sirte Abyssal Plains. It is possible that, ∼8 ka B.P., the Neolithic village of Atlit-Yam (Israel) was abandoned because of impact by the same Etna tsunami. Two other Pleistocenic megaturbidite deposits of the Ionian Sea can be explained by previous sector collapses from the Etna area.
Lost Tsunami

This also would have hit the Tunisian Peninsula as well as Malta and Sicily which the latter prior to c. 6,000BC were all part of the same landmass which I have suggested the megalithic ruins of Malta were built before this time.


Recently:
A submerged monolith in the Sicilian Channel (central Mediterranean Sea): Evidence for Mesolithic human activity
Underwater 'Stonehenge' Monolith Found Off Coast of Sicily

Massive underwater tsunami caused by the Storegga Landslide off the west coast of Norway caused final submergence of Doggerland.
The catastrophic final flooding of Doggerland by the Storegga Slide tsunami
Doggerland:


Massive Flood Event in Nile Delta. According to Egyptologist John Romer:
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The ancient Nile was different from the modern river too, its flow much stronger than it would become in later phases of its history. In consequence, the beginning of the delta, where the fast, wide river broke into half a dozen different streams and spread out like a fan, was further south than it is at present, at a point where the valley cliffs nip close together near the pyramids of modern day Saqqara....

In distant prehistoric times, both the Nile's flow and intrusions into the [Mediterranean] sea into its delta had been so violent as to delete all record of earlier human activity [in the greater Delta/coastal regions]. In the seventh millenium BC [c. 6,000BC], for example, the Nile had flowed so fiercely through its delta that it had channeled into a single outflow into the Mediterranean, the so-called "Great River", which had run from due north from the ending of the valley's limestone cliffs.

Flooding of the Back Sea caused by Mediterranean flowing through Bosphorus strait:
An abrupt drowning of the Black Sea shelf
Bob Ballard, explorer who found the Titanic, now says he may have found evidence of Noah’s flood

Why not c. 6,000BC? Any of these events, if not all, could fit the bill of the the oldest written flood myth found, the Eridu Genesis, which : "...does not speak of a flood covering the earth, but rather a flood that that “swept over the whole country”.

And it is after this time history as we know it begins.



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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 907 R Avry Wilson 26-Apr-16 07:00
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 814 R Avry Wilson 30-Apr-16 03:17
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 845 R Avry Wilson 30-Apr-16 03:36
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 761 Thanos5150 30-Apr-16 22:18
The Unanswered Mystery of 7,000-year-old Ubaid Lizard figurines 503 dmatherly 02-Jan-17 23:46
Re: The Unanswered Mystery of 7,000-year-old Ubaid Lizard figurines 541 Thanos5150 03-Jan-17 05:26
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 974 Origyptian 26-Apr-16 15:21
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 844 Thanos5150 26-Apr-16 16:08
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 782 Corpuscles 01-May-16 22:25
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 692 Eddie Larry 01-May-16 23:36
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 583 Thanos5150 02-Jan-17 19:16
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