> So you are thinking even earlier Holocene than c.
Yes, that's my thinking. It's not locked in by any means, but it is a strong candidate. I mean, sure there are possible events closer in time to the written accounts, however, I feel the archaic source is an excellent indicator for how the story become 'allegorical'. I think closer time frames could have led to more specific descriptions, for example, an actual, known geographical location for the flood(s).
> > I would like to see where you
> > are going with this. Interesting.
> Among other places:
Agreed on this area, yes.
> > Might prove to be a difficult search. Not
> > impossible, but difficult. (the 'tower')
> A muse in a general sense. There seems little
> doubt the story itself was inspired from the
> popular earlier Sumerian tale
> classic/enmerkaratta.htm]ENMERKAR AND THE LORD OF
> ARATTA[/url] which the earliest found copies date
> to c.2000BC.
> [quote]My sister, let Aratta fashion gold and
> silver skilfully on my behalf for Unug. Let them
> cut the flawless lapis lazuli from the blocks, let
> them ...... the translucence of the flawless lapis
> lazuli ....... ...... [b]build a holy mountain in
> Unug. Let Aratta build a temple brought down from
> heaven[/b] -- your place of worship, the Shrine
> E-ana; let Aratta skilfully fashion the interior
> of the holy jipar, your abode; may I, the radiant
> youth, may I be embraced there by you. Let Aratta
> submit beneath the yoke for Unug on my
> [quote]...Enki, the lord of abundance and of
> steadfast decisions, the wise and knowing lord of
> the Land, the expert of the gods, chosen for
> wisdom, the lord of Eridug, [b]shall change the
> speech in their mouths, as many as he had placed
> there, and so the speech of mankind is truly
Strong correlation here. Works as good as Gilgamesh/Noah.
> Love to hear more. The Volga river is part of a
> large basin that extends north all the way to the
> Arctic Ocean which may have played a more integral
> part in human history of this time than is
> realized. Ronnie Gallagher has some interesting
> articles on the Caspian Sea. Sent you the link to
Got it, thanks. Excellent read, some good research in there. After I presented [i]Godpyre[/i], I more or less dropped out of the 'flood' discussion, thus missed out on Gallagher's article ... so thanks again for directing me to it. I'd read some on the salt content years past, and *might * pick on him a little for it because he seems(?) to have missed the full sea from the Arctic to the Indian (and I'll pass on the cart ruts!). Otherwise, is a good resource.
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