> I added a note at the end of the OP to clarify in
> answer to the question "...if they [the
> Sumerians] are not the originators of the flood
> myth, then who before them was?" is meant to
> lead to the next segment which discusses the Ubaid
> culture that directly preceded the Sumerians in
> the region. The greater point of this chapter is
> to lead to a series of known catastrophic events
> that occurred in Eurasia c. 6,000BC to suggest the
> original flood myth was based on actual
> events that occurred at this time in which the
> Ubaid would have been part of the main group of
> survivors ergo this is where the tale originated
> from which was passed down to the Sumerians who in
> turn passed it along to others and so on.
Certainly plausible. I was looking at a similar region and found there is a good basis for flood myth inception very early on. Especially the Holocene time frame, so for some my dates range even further back. I would like to see where you are going with this. Interesting.
> I completely agree. Even the story itself is out
> of place within the narrative and seems a
> disjointed addition by a later editor. I do not
> think there was ever an actual "Tower of Babel" in
> the context of the events described but it is
> possible there was a particular ziggurat the
> writer had in mind as a muse for the tale.
Might prove to be a difficult search. Not impossible, but difficult.
> > I should note I have had some of my own ideas
> > this (years past), but never really penned
> > anything extensive beyond my mention in
> > 'Godpyre'.
> I would be very interested.
My bad. Missed making that a link in my edit. See:
Scroll to the section 'Historical Memories', then the subheading 'A few suprises?', parts 2 and 3. Overall, you may find the whole article worth digesting. Up to you. :)
> I beleive in general the path of the history of
> civilization leads in this direction, to the
> Caucasus/Black Sea/Caspian Sea region. C. 6,000BC
> there were also what seem to be relatively sudden
> and sizable migrations from somewhere in the north
> to southern Anatolia/Mesopotamia which the Ubaid
> would have been a key component as well as the
> Vinca/Danube culture of eastern Europe.
I can get on board with this, no problem. Incidentally, I have the idea the Volga took a sudden new path (at or around Volgograd), sending floodwaters to the Caspian.
> > Look forward to more of your work on this.
> > Avry
> Thanks. It goes in spurts but hopefully next month
> I will set aside some more time to make another