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Martin Stower Wrote:
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> Functional equivalent of the mastaba chapel would
> presumably be the (mortuary) temple and it’s
> unfortunate for our knowledge of the case that
> these were so heavily plundered, but certainly in
> the case of Khufu’s there are fragmentary
> remains of the reliefs it once contained.

These were not found in situ, but at Lisht. 2 groups of fragments which the first refers to Khufu often and is not believed to come from the mortuary temple, but rather the Valley temple which has never been found. "This assumption is based on parallels of their subjects found in later monuments". The second group makes no mention of Khufu at all and again it is only assumed they came from the mortuary temple. The fact is no one knows where these fragments came from or when they were even made, though until proven otherwise I am certainly willing to accept they are at least from the 4th Dynasty.

There is enough of the G2 and G3 mortuary and valley temples, regardless of plundering, to make it abundantly clear they were never covered in reliefs. Nor the Sphinx temple for that matter. This is why until the excavation of the Sneferu's Bent pyramid valley temple Egyptologists were of the mind adorning pyramid complex temples was not even practiced in the 4th Dynasty. Bent does not have a "mortuary temple" per se', but rather a small unadorned relatively pathetic cult chapel that abuts it which seems a contradiction of workmanship and scale compared to the pyramid itself. The Red pyramid mortuary temple is virtually non-existent and was of such a limited scope and craftsmanship Egyptologists explain this by suggesting it was "built in a hurry" or never even completed. There is no evidence of a causeway leading from the mortuary temple to the valley temple, suggesting it was never built, and it is questionable whether it ever had a valley temple either. There is a small unadorned pedestrian chapel at Meidum but no evidence of any valley temple.

So, in reality what you have are the massive unadorned temples at Giza and the small and poorly constructed adorned temples attributed to Sneferu who built at least 3 if not 5 pyramids in all. Immediately after Giza, at the very beginning of the 5th Dynasty, we find lavishly adorned funerary temples littered with reliefs which now also suddenly incorporate beautifully carved and designed round granite columns prior to which, except at Saqqara, were stark and square. Sahure who ruled barely 10yrs after Menkaure:



Various Temples of Giza:




Bent pyramid chapel:

Meidum:


Is there really a direct connection between the temples at Giza and those that came directly before and after? I don't think so. As far as the Khufu reliefs are concerned, if all the other temples at Giza are any indication one could assume they were part of a pedestrian valley temple added after the fact by Khufu akin to what is found at Dahshur.

I would also note that the fragments of reliefs found at Dashur and those attributed to Khufu are largely of the kings participation in the Sed Festival which is not a funerary rite, but rather a rejuvenation and commemoration ceremony held after 30yrs of rule repeated every 3yrs after. One has to wonder if the temple was built in honor of this achievement while living rather than to remember the accomplishment after death. Instead of a Rolex, they got a temple.

> We may
> also believe Herodotus on the causeway having
> borne reliefs, as parallels elsewhere suggest that
> this was normal.

> Again, that various members of the elite have
> “Priest of Khufu” among their titles displayed
> suggests the kind of royal funerary cult which was
> echoed on a more modest scale in the mastabas.

Not that it matters to the context of the temples of Giza at large as I note above, but are these titles to designate cult affiliation or an actual job title?

> So I don’t see a major problem here.

I think it is an insurmountable one. The temples at Giza are clearly different in many respects with those that came directly before and after. The mortuary temple of G1 is singularly unique as well. The temples at Dashur and Meidum are architectural retards by comparison giving the clear impression, in context of the temples that came directly after them as well, that they were not made by the same people for the same purpose. Whether one disagrees with this or not I do not think one can be honest with themselves and not see the stark disconnect between the temples at Giza and those directly before and after and chalk it up to mere whim on the part of Khufu and co. I think the sudden appearance of round columns where prior to this time there were none is part of this distinction which belies a contemporary foreign influence in its own right.

Regarding the idea the mortuary and or valley temple was somehow a direct parallel to mastaba chapels is interesting, but to me this would be an idea imposed upon namely the pyramids of Dashur after the fact and adopted as standard practice in the 5th Dynasty. However, it is still lacking as the exterior temples of the pyramids would serve the cult, not the interred, which the individual would require as per AE religion their own personal dedications. In other words, packing the pyramid full of funerary "stuff" only to know it would be robbed without the writing and art to go along with it is unacceptable particularly considering to the AE depictions of such things were just as good as the real thing essentially giving greater security of having what they would need in the afterlife regardless of whether the actual "stuff" was robbed. Physical goods and writing/art are meant to go hand in hand yet in the great pyramids there is nothing, which makes sense as they are clearly not "houses for the dead" either.



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Re: Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 829 R Avry Wilson 10-Feb-16 23:43
Re: Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 580 cladking 11-Feb-16 00:45
Re: Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 648 cladking 11-Feb-16 15:36
Re: Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 568 cladking 11-Feb-16 19:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 581 cladking 09-Feb-16 14:47
Re : Haaretz.....The Pyramids were tombs....not for grain storage 673 Thunderbird 07-Feb-16 22:32
Re: Re : Haaretz.....The Pyramids were tombs....not for grain storage 549 Martin Stower 07-Feb-16 23:14
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 623 R Avry Wilson 08-Feb-16 05:26
Did ancient Egyptians like their pyramids ? 591 Juha 08-Feb-16 08:53
Re: Did ancient Egyptians like their pyramids ? 605 cladking 08-Feb-16 14:55
Re: Did ancient Egyptians like their pyramids ? 599 eyeofhorus33 08-Feb-16 17:46
Re: Did ancient Egyptians like their pyramids ? 641 cladking 08-Feb-16 19:33
Re: Did ancient Egyptians like their pyramids ? 650 Juha 08-Feb-16 21:44
Re: Did ancient Egyptians like their pyramids ? 548 cladking 08-Feb-16 22:02
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 512 Audrey 08-Feb-16 17:38
Re: The rectangle ....open or with lid. 629 Thunderbird 08-Feb-16 22:45
Re: The rectangle ....open or with lid. 637 Audrey 09-Feb-16 01:16
Re: The rectangle ....open or with lid. 586 Martin Stower 09-Feb-16 04:07
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 515 R Avry Wilson 09-Feb-16 00:14
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 588 Audrey 09-Feb-16 01:46
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 641 R Avry Wilson 09-Feb-16 03:05
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 607 Audrey 09-Feb-16 06:56
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 753 R Avry Wilson 09-Feb-16 07:33
Re: Seeing.....and not seeing. 558 Thunderbird 09-Feb-16 06:25
Re: Seeing.....and not seeing. 597 R Avry Wilson 09-Feb-16 07:18
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 724 Martin Stower 09-Feb-16 03:04
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 635 cladking 09-Feb-16 03:46
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 590 Martin Stower 09-Feb-16 04:10
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 514 cladking 09-Feb-16 04:23
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 544 Martin Stower 09-Feb-16 20:14
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 480 cladking 09-Feb-16 21:34
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 613 Martin Stower 09-Feb-16 23:57
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 597 cladking 10-Feb-16 00:14
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 588 cladking 10-Feb-16 00:26
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 520 R Avry Wilson 10-Feb-16 07:05
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 497 cladking 10-Feb-16 15:07
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 612 R Avry Wilson 10-Feb-16 22:58
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 609 cladking 10-Feb-16 23:19
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 664 R Avry Wilson 11-Feb-16 00:11
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 604 Martin Stower 10-Feb-16 01:01
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 443 cladking 10-Feb-16 01:48
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 632 cladking 09-Feb-16 04:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 589 Martin Stower 09-Feb-16 20:27
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 629 cladking 09-Feb-16 21:51
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 611 Audrey 09-Feb-16 06:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 648 Thanos5150 10-Feb-16 00:12
Re: The Pyramids....the mirror of heaven 605 Thunderbird 10-Feb-16 05:12
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 612 Martin Stower 10-Feb-16 20:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 732 Thanos5150 11-Feb-16 05:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 675 Martin Stower 11-Feb-16 13:15
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 687 Thanos5150 11-Feb-16 17:38
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 737 Martin Stower 12-Feb-16 00:02
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 592 Audrey 12-Feb-16 05:30
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 664 Merrell 12-Feb-16 08:40
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 667 Martin Stower 12-Feb-16 17:21
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 591 Audrey 12-Feb-16 17:48
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 553 Martin Stower 13-Feb-16 02:24
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 605 Brian Patterson 12-Feb-16 18:03
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 492 Audrey 12-Feb-16 18:32
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 574 Martin Stower 13-Feb-16 02:31
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 702 Audrey 13-Feb-16 03:18
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 782 Thanos5150 12-Feb-16 05:44
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 598 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 06:50
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 748 Thanos5150 12-Feb-16 16:36
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 621 Audrey 12-Feb-16 17:41
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 586 Thanos5150 12-Feb-16 17:58
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 583 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 18:29
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 628 Thanos5150 12-Feb-16 20:49
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 606 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 22:37
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 619 Thanos5150 12-Feb-16 22:54
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 586 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 23:09
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 619 Thanos5150 13-Feb-16 00:45
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 568 Audrey 13-Feb-16 03:03
Re: Khufu Family ....usurped the Pyramids 517 Thunderbird 13-Feb-16 00:01
Re: Khufu Family ....usurped the Pyramids 578 Thanos5150 13-Feb-16 01:01
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 573 Martin Stower 13-Feb-16 01:53
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 642 Thanos5150 13-Feb-16 04:14
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 544 Thanos5150 14-Feb-16 21:28
Steve? (off topic) 592 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 06:30
Re: Steve? (off topic) 634 Martin Stower 13-Feb-16 02:03
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 599 Origyptian 11-Feb-16 19:35
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 640 Jon Ellison 11-Feb-16 21:15
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 566 Origyptian 11-Feb-16 21:42
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 595 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 06:15
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 537 Origyptian 12-Feb-16 13:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 643 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 17:48
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 557 Jon Ellison 12-Feb-16 18:21
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 562 Origyptian 12-Feb-16 22:51
...A clear invitation to your very own pod. 576 cladking 12-Feb-16 20:41
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 589 Origyptian 12-Feb-16 22:47
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 579 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 23:03
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 603 Origyptian 12-Feb-16 23:09
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 597 R Avry Wilson 13-Feb-16 00:06
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 408 Martin Stower 13-Feb-16 20:52
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 570 Origyptian 14-Feb-16 06:01
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 509 Martin Stower 14-Feb-16 23:08
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 467 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 23:40
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 575 Origyptian 13-Feb-16 00:22
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 498 Jon Ellison 12-Feb-16 09:48
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 575 Martin Stower 12-Feb-16 03:03
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 630 Corpuscles 12-Feb-16 06:36
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 497 Martin Stower 13-Feb-16 23:08
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 595 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 06:09
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 599 Origyptian 12-Feb-16 16:03
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 518 Pete Vanderzwet 08-Feb-16 18:16
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 556 molder 08-Feb-16 13:22
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 555 Spiros 08-Feb-16 16:06
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 543 Brian Patterson 08-Feb-16 19:10
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 616 cladking 08-Feb-16 20:17
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 613 Pete Vanderzwet 11-Feb-16 03:43
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 599 cladking 11-Feb-16 04:06
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 624 Pete Vanderzwet 11-Feb-16 05:50
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 590 cladking 11-Feb-16 14:34
Some pesky adverbs 658 drrayeye 09-Feb-16 17:08
Re: Some pesky adverbs 594 Pete Vanderzwet 09-Feb-16 18:13
Re: Some pesky adverbs 603 Brian Patterson 09-Feb-16 19:21
Re: Some pesky adverbs 617 Pete Vanderzwet 09-Feb-16 19:24
Re: Some pesky adverbs 536 Brian Patterson 09-Feb-16 19:29
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 646 Sirius7237 10-Feb-16 05:32
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 611 Brian Patterson 11-Feb-16 19:37
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 593 Corpuscles 13-Feb-16 00:06
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 573 Origyptian 13-Feb-16 00:33
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 608 cladking 13-Feb-16 00:43
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 531 Pete Vanderzwet 13-Feb-16 00:42
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 605 Thanos5150 13-Feb-16 01:35
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 628 Brian Patterson 13-Feb-16 00:37
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 582 R Avry Wilson 13-Feb-16 01:32
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