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cladking Wrote:
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> I understand my "interpretation" is supremely
> difficult to accept for everyone and this goes
> many times over for Egyptologists.

Have you presented them to Egyptology at a forum or speaking engagement? Perhaps submitted a paper to a journal in that field?


> It's funny that I started reading Egyptological
> opinion about the PT a few years back and was
> simply amazed at their ability to be exactly
> correct but always in a left handed sort of way.
> It's difficult for me in some cases to figure out
> how they got something right when they don't even
> understand what the author meant.
>
> Now I realize that most of these things are
> related to the nature of language and
> epistemology. Most are a direct result of not
> understanding the ancient metaphysics and not
> having a working knowledge, a visceral
> understanding, of modern metaphysics.


I don't see how modern metaphysics applies to the PT, or any other AE writing. I feel projecting our views in this area onto them is foolhardy.


> It still
> required genius to get where Egyptology got.
> They're always wrong but this is perfectly
> logical.


If they are completely wrong, then you relieve yourself from using any of their versions of translation for your purposes. You therefore cannot cite a word meaning from the WB; cannot employ a single item of work from the entire Egyptological catalogue. Sounds over the top from me? Don't mean to, it just comes across that way, and it seems the only way to go. If you such deep concerns, the way around it is make an official presentation.


> With the nature of ancient and modern language and
> their similarities it's just a shame that there
> aren't more direct contradictions. It's mere
> sample bias that the PT happens to sound like the
> book of the dead in almost every instance.

It's because it does.


> There
> could also be a lot more grammatical "mistakes"
> that could have alerted Maspero that this language
> was different.


Could you explain the reference to Maspero here?


> There could have been some
> intention somewhere that makes the ancient
> language sound a little like modern language. I
> can imagine several ways this could have occurred
> naturally such as using versions of text that that
> sounded "right" to those who no longer spoke the
> ancient language.


It was drawn from modern Coptic, but it is like (rather, worse than) using modern English to decipher ancient English. Languages morph over time, so that's why some of it remains elusive.


> Whatever the case the PT still says the pyramids
> were not tombs. These are mere rituals read to
> the crowds so it's not logical to expect a great
> deal of direct evidence for their "beliefs" or how
> they understood their enviroment.

The PTs do not say the pyramids were not tombs. The describe a mere portion of their function.


> Egyptologists who read my interpretations must see
> about the same thing; that I am right in a left
> handed sort of way. Of course almost no one reads
> it.

Again, official presentation would help.


> I believe I have a nearly full understanding of
> #510. I know from experience that interpreting
> these utterances for people is a waste of time.

Do you feel it is a waste because they don't receive your view well?


> Meaning in the ancient language was expressed
> differently and exists in layers and is defined by
> perspective.

I agree.

Ancient language can't be translated
> directly.

I agree even more.

> It would have to exist as logic and
> flow charts. Most people wouldn't understand
> these either and those who did still wouldn't
> believe it. I believe you are referring to;
>
> 1147a. N. is the red bandage, who comes forth
> from the great ’Iḫ.t;

But, as I said, compare this to Faulkner:

"I am this head-band of red colour which went forth from the 'Iht the great ..." [Faulkner:186-7]

Knowing this slight difference, what do you feel is the next step when reviewing these texts?


> This is the dead king who exists as the pyramid
> and the water which is driven by "’Iḫ.t-wt.t"
> which is CO2. This word means "risings begetter"
> because it causes cake, foam, and the water at
> Giza to rise.

Source for this?

I would begin with 'Iht, which you have appended wtt ('beget') [Gardiner:562], whereas Faulkner follows with 'the great', which is wrt [Ibid: 561]. See also 'Iht as the phoneme in 'domain'. Compare relation to 'akhet' for further study. Current result is, " ... went forth from the great domain ... "

How you got to CO2 is quite the stretch.

> This water contains large amounts
> of siderite dissolved from egyptian red sandstone
> which stains the bottom 162 1/2' of the pyramid
> red. The dead king is also this staining. In
> life he was responsible for everything and in
> death he is everything. The king like the
> staining comes forth from the great rising
> (water).


The good part is that your actually trying, while others just cite lines. This will pay great dividends down the line for you. Of course, I disagree with your conclusion here, but that's not to say your attempts are futile.


> I do believe other interpretations are possible
> but I doubt any are as consistent with the actual
> words and known science. It's difficult for
> people to even see this consistency with known
> science (God knows I've tried extensively) because
> few people understand metaphysics or its
> relationship to established science.

I was following, but then, you've introduced metaphysics (plus a relationship to science?) which I don't concur with.


> I worked a lot on developing the ancient science.
> I think you'd be amazed how much they knew. Some
> of their estimates were way off but they had a
> decent cosmology and an excellent astronomy.

I'd agree here.


> > Do they get it all wrong? No. The more material
> > you dive into, it becomes more apparent the
> > general understanding is locked in quite good.
> But
> > not all of it, otherwise they still wouldn't be
> > writing books about it, right?
>
> So long as Egyptology believes in "gods" they are
> missing one third of the language and the subject
> of every sentence.

If you keep up the translation work, I can promise one day you'll break through to see the gods were more than nomenclature. So on the one hand I disagree about taking gods out of the equation, and on the other agree some is missed by how they are interpreted.

Regards,
Avry

Faulkner, R.O., "The Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts", Oxford, 1989 Ed.
Gardiner, Sir A, "Egyptian Grammar", Griffith Institute, Oxford, 3rd Ed. 1973

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Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 487 Pete Vanderzwet 08-Feb-16 18:13
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 585 cladking 08-Feb-16 19:09
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 664 Pete Vanderzwet 09-Feb-16 18:10
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 598 cladking 09-Feb-16 19:43
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 635 R Avry Wilson 09-Feb-16 20:21
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 555 cladking 09-Feb-16 21:23
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 598 Freya 08-Feb-16 18:03
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 557 Pete Vanderzwet 08-Feb-16 18:14
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 508 Freya 09-Feb-16 05:40
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 633 R Avry Wilson 09-Feb-16 06:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 524 cladking 09-Feb-16 14:35
Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 639 R Avry Wilson 09-Feb-16 19:11
Re: Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 499 cladking 09-Feb-16 20:37
Re: Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 537 R Avry Wilson 10-Feb-16 06:04
Re: Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 608 cladking 10-Feb-16 16:22
Re: Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 829 R Avry Wilson 10-Feb-16 23:43
Re: Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 580 cladking 11-Feb-16 00:45
Re: Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 648 cladking 11-Feb-16 15:36
Re: Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 567 cladking 11-Feb-16 19:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 581 cladking 09-Feb-16 14:47
Re : Haaretz.....The Pyramids were tombs....not for grain storage 673 Thunderbird 07-Feb-16 22:32
Re: Re : Haaretz.....The Pyramids were tombs....not for grain storage 549 Martin Stower 07-Feb-16 23:14
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 623 R Avry Wilson 08-Feb-16 05:26
Did ancient Egyptians like their pyramids ? 591 Juha 08-Feb-16 08:53
Re: Did ancient Egyptians like their pyramids ? 605 cladking 08-Feb-16 14:55
Re: Did ancient Egyptians like their pyramids ? 599 eyeofhorus33 08-Feb-16 17:46
Re: Did ancient Egyptians like their pyramids ? 641 cladking 08-Feb-16 19:33
Re: Did ancient Egyptians like their pyramids ? 650 Juha 08-Feb-16 21:44
Re: Did ancient Egyptians like their pyramids ? 548 cladking 08-Feb-16 22:02
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 511 Audrey 08-Feb-16 17:38
Re: The rectangle ....open or with lid. 629 Thunderbird 08-Feb-16 22:45
Re: The rectangle ....open or with lid. 637 Audrey 09-Feb-16 01:16
Re: The rectangle ....open or with lid. 586 Martin Stower 09-Feb-16 04:07
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 515 R Avry Wilson 09-Feb-16 00:14
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 588 Audrey 09-Feb-16 01:46
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 641 R Avry Wilson 09-Feb-16 03:05
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 606 Audrey 09-Feb-16 06:56
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 752 R Avry Wilson 09-Feb-16 07:33
Re: Seeing.....and not seeing. 558 Thunderbird 09-Feb-16 06:25
Re: Seeing.....and not seeing. 596 R Avry Wilson 09-Feb-16 07:18
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 723 Martin Stower 09-Feb-16 03:04
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 635 cladking 09-Feb-16 03:46
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 590 Martin Stower 09-Feb-16 04:10
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 514 cladking 09-Feb-16 04:23
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 543 Martin Stower 09-Feb-16 20:14
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 480 cladking 09-Feb-16 21:34
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 613 Martin Stower 09-Feb-16 23:57
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 597 cladking 10-Feb-16 00:14
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 588 cladking 10-Feb-16 00:26
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 520 R Avry Wilson 10-Feb-16 07:05
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 497 cladking 10-Feb-16 15:07
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 612 R Avry Wilson 10-Feb-16 22:58
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 608 cladking 10-Feb-16 23:19
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 664 R Avry Wilson 11-Feb-16 00:11
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 604 Martin Stower 10-Feb-16 01:01
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 443 cladking 10-Feb-16 01:48
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 632 cladking 09-Feb-16 04:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 589 Martin Stower 09-Feb-16 20:27
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 629 cladking 09-Feb-16 21:51
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 610 Audrey 09-Feb-16 06:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 648 Thanos5150 10-Feb-16 00:12
Re: The Pyramids....the mirror of heaven 605 Thunderbird 10-Feb-16 05:12
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 611 Martin Stower 10-Feb-16 20:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 732 Thanos5150 11-Feb-16 05:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 675 Martin Stower 11-Feb-16 13:15
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 687 Thanos5150 11-Feb-16 17:38
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 737 Martin Stower 12-Feb-16 00:02
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 592 Audrey 12-Feb-16 05:30
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 664 Merrell 12-Feb-16 08:40
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 666 Martin Stower 12-Feb-16 17:21
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 591 Audrey 12-Feb-16 17:48
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 553 Martin Stower 13-Feb-16 02:24
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 605 Brian Patterson 12-Feb-16 18:03
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 492 Audrey 12-Feb-16 18:32
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 574 Martin Stower 13-Feb-16 02:31
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 702 Audrey 13-Feb-16 03:18
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 782 Thanos5150 12-Feb-16 05:44
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 598 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 06:50
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 747 Thanos5150 12-Feb-16 16:36
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 621 Audrey 12-Feb-16 17:41
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 586 Thanos5150 12-Feb-16 17:58
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 583 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 18:29
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 628 Thanos5150 12-Feb-16 20:49
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 606 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 22:37
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 619 Thanos5150 12-Feb-16 22:54
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 586 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 23:09
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 619 Thanos5150 13-Feb-16 00:45
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 568 Audrey 13-Feb-16 03:03
Re: Khufu Family ....usurped the Pyramids 517 Thunderbird 13-Feb-16 00:01
Re: Khufu Family ....usurped the Pyramids 577 Thanos5150 13-Feb-16 01:01
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 573 Martin Stower 13-Feb-16 01:53
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 642 Thanos5150 13-Feb-16 04:14
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 543 Thanos5150 14-Feb-16 21:28
Steve? (off topic) 591 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 06:30
Re: Steve? (off topic) 634 Martin Stower 13-Feb-16 02:03
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 599 Origyptian 11-Feb-16 19:35
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 640 Jon Ellison 11-Feb-16 21:15
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 566 Origyptian 11-Feb-16 21:42
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 595 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 06:15
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 537 Origyptian 12-Feb-16 13:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 643 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 17:48
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 557 Jon Ellison 12-Feb-16 18:21
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 562 Origyptian 12-Feb-16 22:51
...A clear invitation to your very own pod. 576 cladking 12-Feb-16 20:41
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 589 Origyptian 12-Feb-16 22:47
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 579 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 23:03
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 603 Origyptian 12-Feb-16 23:09
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 597 R Avry Wilson 13-Feb-16 00:06
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 408 Martin Stower 13-Feb-16 20:52
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 570 Origyptian 14-Feb-16 06:01
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 509 Martin Stower 14-Feb-16 23:08
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 467 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 23:40
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 575 Origyptian 13-Feb-16 00:22
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 498 Jon Ellison 12-Feb-16 09:48
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 574 Martin Stower 12-Feb-16 03:03
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 630 Corpuscles 12-Feb-16 06:36
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 496 Martin Stower 13-Feb-16 23:08
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 594 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 06:09
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 599 Origyptian 12-Feb-16 16:03
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 518 Pete Vanderzwet 08-Feb-16 18:16
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 556 molder 08-Feb-16 13:22
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 555 Spiros 08-Feb-16 16:06
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 543 Brian Patterson 08-Feb-16 19:10
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 616 cladking 08-Feb-16 20:17
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 612 Pete Vanderzwet 11-Feb-16 03:43
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 599 cladking 11-Feb-16 04:06
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 624 Pete Vanderzwet 11-Feb-16 05:50
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 590 cladking 11-Feb-16 14:34
Some pesky adverbs 658 drrayeye 09-Feb-16 17:08
Re: Some pesky adverbs 593 Pete Vanderzwet 09-Feb-16 18:13
Re: Some pesky adverbs 603 Brian Patterson 09-Feb-16 19:21
Re: Some pesky adverbs 617 Pete Vanderzwet 09-Feb-16 19:24
Re: Some pesky adverbs 535 Brian Patterson 09-Feb-16 19:29
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 646 Sirius7237 10-Feb-16 05:32
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 611 Brian Patterson 11-Feb-16 19:37
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 593 Corpuscles 13-Feb-16 00:06
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 573 Origyptian 13-Feb-16 00:33
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 608 cladking 13-Feb-16 00:43
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 531 Pete Vanderzwet 13-Feb-16 00:42
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 605 Thanos5150 13-Feb-16 01:35
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 628 Brian Patterson 13-Feb-16 00:37
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