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Audrey Wrote:
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> R Avry Wilson Wrote:
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> > One you passed over - however, brought to light -
> > is found in the thievery. The deliberate
> > employment of hidden passages in and of themselves
> > make a grand statement: Why was
> > there a requirement to hide rooms and/or passages?
> > The answer tips the tomb scale in a positive
> > manner. It is: Because they knew whatever was
> > interred in the monument had to be protected from
> > intrusion; they were already aware of thievery
> > and/or the unsettling of the sanctity of who was
> > interred. They didn't want it disturbed.
>
> The assumption that the passages were meant to
> hide a burial is based on the presumption that the
> pyramids were tombs. Circular logic. . . .

. . . under a false construction.

The point (I take it) is that the arrangement of rooms and passages served to hide and protect something and no better candidate than tomb has been offered.

Perhaps you’d like to offer one?

Knowing that you find it hard to follow links, I append some thematically related material (again from 20 years ago):
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. . . When Professor Smyth went to the Pyramid in 1865 he was astonished to find that there is actually a ledge or groove cut into the sides at the top, into which to slide a lid, and also dowel-holes into which pins could be slipped in order to fix it—all after the manner of many of the Egyptian sarcophagi. The so-called “Coffer” is in fact a Sarcophagus, whether actually intended to contain the body of a King or otherwise. It is very similar in construction to the Sarcophagus in the Second Pyramid, more particularly in the matter of the groove and dowel-holes for the lid.
This from William Kingsland, who actually disputed the ‘tomb theory’.

It’s certainly worth quoting Petrie’s detailed comments on the sarcophagi of Khufu and Khafre:
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The coffer in the King’s Chamber is of the usual form of the earliest Egyptian sarcophagi, a approximately flat-sided box of red granite. It has the usual under-cut groove to hold the edge of a lid along the inside of the N., E., and S. sides; the W. side being cut away as low as the groove for the lid to slide over it; and having three pin-holes cut in it for the pins to fall into out of similar holes in the lid, when the lid was put on. It is not finely wrought, and cannot in this respect rival the coffer in the Second Pyramid. . . . [The Pyramids and Temples of Gizeh, 1885 (1990 reprint), p. 29]

The coffer cannot have been put into the Pyramid after the King’s Chamber was finished, as it is nearly an inch wider than the beginning of the ascending passage. [The Pyramids and Temples of Gizeh, 1885 (1990 reprint), p. 88]
Regarding Khafre’s sarcophagus:
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The coffer is well polished, not only inside but all over the outside; even though it was nearly all bedded into the floor, with blocks plastered against it. The bottom is left rough, and shows that it was sawn and afterwards dressed down to the intended height; but in sawing it the saw was run too deep and then backed out; it was, therefore, not dressed down all over the bottom, the worst part of the sawing being cut .20 [inches] deeper than the dressed part. This is the only error of workmanship in the whole of it; it is polished all over the sides in and out, and is not left with the saw lines visible on it like the Great Pyramid coffer. The finish is about the same as on the walls of the King’s Chamber, and the horizontal polishing lines can be seen inside the N. end.

The lid is lying on the floor of the chamber, unbroken; it was slid on to the coffer, and held by a projection on its base, which fitted into the undercut grooves. When finally slid into place, two pins (probably of bronze) dropped down out of holes in the lid, into corresponding holes in the W. side of the coffer.

The designers were evidently afraid, however, of the coffer being turned over, so as to let the pins drop back into the lid; they therefore sunk the coffer into the floor. To make it still safer they put resin in the pin-holes, where it may still be seen; then the pins, being ready heated, were put into the holes in the lid, which was quickly closed; thus the pins sank 1/2 inch to 1 inch, melting their way into the resin, and probably forcing it up their sides. This process made sure that there could be no way of getting the lid off without breaking it, and the design answered perfectly; the lid never was drawn off. On one side of the groove in the coffer may be seen a little scrap of cement. This shows that the lid was cemented on in grooves and that it was never slid back, or it must have rubbed of such a fragile scrap. The cementing on of the lid was also of use to prevent any shake; so that the labour of wrenching it off, and bruising the undercutting to pieces by wriggling and jogging it up and down, must have been enormous. This seems, however, to have been the way of forcing it, as the undercutting is much broken, and the cement in the groove, and the melted-in pins, make it impossible to suppose any other mode of removing the lid. . . .

The coffer being 42.0 inches wide, can never have been taken through the passages, as the upper passage is only 41.3 wide, and the lower is 41.2 and 41.6. Hence it must have been put into the chamber before the roofing was laid over it, and so before the Pyramid was built upon that. [The Pyramids and Temples of Gizeh, 1885 (1990 reprint), pp. 35-36]
Both sarcophagi were both built into their respective pyramids; evidently the builders considered them essential to the function of each pyramid.

They both have what could be called a one-shot, one-way locking mechanism: close once and never open again. Perhaps something other than a sarcophagus would have such a lock, but I can’t think what, and you certainly haven’t offered an alternative suggestion.

The way Khafre’s sarcophagus is let into the floor is another indication that it wasn’t intended to be opened again. It’s far from unique in this respect: a similar arrangement is found in other tombs, including one of the satellite pyramids of Menkaure’s pyramid.

Khafre’s tomb chamber also has a small pit in the floor, resembling the canopic pit or chest found in other pyramids and tombs. Belzoni included it in his drawing of the chamber, long before its function was recognised. The resemblance is striking when the floor plans of Khafre’s tomb chamber and later pyramid tomb chambers are set side by side—a comparision presented in Aidan Dodson’s book on royal canopics.

The Khufu and Khafre sarcophagi are the right SIZE for sarchophagi; the surviving sarcophagi in the satellite pyramids, attributed to the Queens of the Pharaohs, are slightly smaller, consistent with greater male stature.

The sarcophagi are uninscribed, but this is hardly indicative: Egyptian sarcophagi underwent a definite stylistic development, from plain, uninscribed boxes to the elaborate, inscribed, anthropoid sarcophagi of later times. Even Unas, the first Pharaoh to have the Pyramid Texts inscribed on the walls of his tomb chamber, had an uninscribed sarcophagus, similar in design to Khufu’s.

The sarcophagi are in pyramids in the middle of Old Kingdom cemeteries. Stylistically, they’re Old Kingdom sarcophagi; built into their respective pyramids, they anchor them firmly to that context.

The design, material and placement of the sarcophagi suggest that they were the last line of defence for some important content, consistent with the other security arrangements found in these pyramids. I wonder what that content might have been?

M.

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Re: 3rd times the charm 733 Thunderbird 07-Feb-16 03:41
Re: 3rd times the charm 634 Martin Stower 07-Feb-16 16:24
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 572 Freya 07-Feb-16 19:15
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 656 Pete Vanderzwet 07-Feb-16 21:04
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 590 Brian Patterson 07-Feb-16 21:19
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 646 cladking 07-Feb-16 21:37
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 487 Pete Vanderzwet 08-Feb-16 18:13
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 585 cladking 08-Feb-16 19:09
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 664 Pete Vanderzwet 09-Feb-16 18:10
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 598 cladking 09-Feb-16 19:43
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 635 R Avry Wilson 09-Feb-16 20:21
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 555 cladking 09-Feb-16 21:23
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 598 Freya 08-Feb-16 18:03
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 557 Pete Vanderzwet 08-Feb-16 18:14
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 508 Freya 09-Feb-16 05:40
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 633 R Avry Wilson 09-Feb-16 06:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 524 cladking 09-Feb-16 14:35
Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 639 R Avry Wilson 09-Feb-16 19:11
Re: Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 499 cladking 09-Feb-16 20:37
Re: Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 538 R Avry Wilson 10-Feb-16 06:04
Re: Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 608 cladking 10-Feb-16 16:22
Re: Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 829 R Avry Wilson 10-Feb-16 23:43
Re: Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 580 cladking 11-Feb-16 00:45
Re: Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 648 cladking 11-Feb-16 15:36
Re: Tangent topic: Understanding what AE said 567 cladking 11-Feb-16 19:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 581 cladking 09-Feb-16 14:47
Re : Haaretz.....The Pyramids were tombs....not for grain storage 673 Thunderbird 07-Feb-16 22:32
Re: Re : Haaretz.....The Pyramids were tombs....not for grain storage 549 Martin Stower 07-Feb-16 23:14
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 623 R Avry Wilson 08-Feb-16 05:26
Did ancient Egyptians like their pyramids ? 591 Juha 08-Feb-16 08:53
Re: Did ancient Egyptians like their pyramids ? 605 cladking 08-Feb-16 14:55
Re: Did ancient Egyptians like their pyramids ? 599 eyeofhorus33 08-Feb-16 17:46
Re: Did ancient Egyptians like their pyramids ? 641 cladking 08-Feb-16 19:33
Re: Did ancient Egyptians like their pyramids ? 650 Juha 08-Feb-16 21:44
Re: Did ancient Egyptians like their pyramids ? 548 cladking 08-Feb-16 22:02
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 511 Audrey 08-Feb-16 17:38
Re: The rectangle ....open or with lid. 629 Thunderbird 08-Feb-16 22:45
Re: The rectangle ....open or with lid. 637 Audrey 09-Feb-16 01:16
Re: The rectangle ....open or with lid. 586 Martin Stower 09-Feb-16 04:07
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 515 R Avry Wilson 09-Feb-16 00:14
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 588 Audrey 09-Feb-16 01:46
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 641 R Avry Wilson 09-Feb-16 03:05
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 607 Audrey 09-Feb-16 06:56
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 752 R Avry Wilson 09-Feb-16 07:33
Re: Seeing.....and not seeing. 558 Thunderbird 09-Feb-16 06:25
Re: Seeing.....and not seeing. 596 R Avry Wilson 09-Feb-16 07:18
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 723 Martin Stower 09-Feb-16 03:04
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 635 cladking 09-Feb-16 03:46
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 590 Martin Stower 09-Feb-16 04:10
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 514 cladking 09-Feb-16 04:23
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 543 Martin Stower 09-Feb-16 20:14
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 480 cladking 09-Feb-16 21:34
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 613 Martin Stower 09-Feb-16 23:57
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 597 cladking 10-Feb-16 00:14
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 588 cladking 10-Feb-16 00:26
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 520 R Avry Wilson 10-Feb-16 07:05
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 497 cladking 10-Feb-16 15:07
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 612 R Avry Wilson 10-Feb-16 22:58
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 608 cladking 10-Feb-16 23:19
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 664 R Avry Wilson 11-Feb-16 00:11
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 604 Martin Stower 10-Feb-16 01:01
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 443 cladking 10-Feb-16 01:48
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 632 cladking 09-Feb-16 04:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 589 Martin Stower 09-Feb-16 20:27
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 629 cladking 09-Feb-16 21:51
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 610 Audrey 09-Feb-16 06:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 648 Thanos5150 10-Feb-16 00:12
Re: The Pyramids....the mirror of heaven 605 Thunderbird 10-Feb-16 05:12
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 611 Martin Stower 10-Feb-16 20:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 732 Thanos5150 11-Feb-16 05:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 675 Martin Stower 11-Feb-16 13:15
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 687 Thanos5150 11-Feb-16 17:38
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 737 Martin Stower 12-Feb-16 00:02
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 592 Audrey 12-Feb-16 05:30
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 664 Merrell 12-Feb-16 08:40
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 666 Martin Stower 12-Feb-16 17:21
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 591 Audrey 12-Feb-16 17:48
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 553 Martin Stower 13-Feb-16 02:24
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 605 Brian Patterson 12-Feb-16 18:03
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 492 Audrey 12-Feb-16 18:32
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 574 Martin Stower 13-Feb-16 02:31
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 702 Audrey 13-Feb-16 03:18
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 782 Thanos5150 12-Feb-16 05:44
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 598 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 06:50
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 748 Thanos5150 12-Feb-16 16:36
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 621 Audrey 12-Feb-16 17:41
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 586 Thanos5150 12-Feb-16 17:58
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 583 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 18:29
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 628 Thanos5150 12-Feb-16 20:49
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 606 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 22:37
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 619 Thanos5150 12-Feb-16 22:54
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 586 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 23:09
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 619 Thanos5150 13-Feb-16 00:45
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 568 Audrey 13-Feb-16 03:03
Re: Khufu Family ....usurped the Pyramids 517 Thunderbird 13-Feb-16 00:01
Re: Khufu Family ....usurped the Pyramids 577 Thanos5150 13-Feb-16 01:01
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 573 Martin Stower 13-Feb-16 01:53
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 642 Thanos5150 13-Feb-16 04:14
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 543 Thanos5150 14-Feb-16 21:28
Steve? (off topic) 591 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 06:30
Re: Steve? (off topic) 634 Martin Stower 13-Feb-16 02:03
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 599 Origyptian 11-Feb-16 19:35
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 640 Jon Ellison 11-Feb-16 21:15
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 566 Origyptian 11-Feb-16 21:42
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 595 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 06:15
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 537 Origyptian 12-Feb-16 13:20
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 643 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 17:48
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 557 Jon Ellison 12-Feb-16 18:21
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 562 Origyptian 12-Feb-16 22:51
...A clear invitation to your very own pod. 576 cladking 12-Feb-16 20:41
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 589 Origyptian 12-Feb-16 22:47
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 579 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 23:03
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 603 Origyptian 12-Feb-16 23:09
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 597 R Avry Wilson 13-Feb-16 00:06
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 408 Martin Stower 13-Feb-16 20:52
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 570 Origyptian 14-Feb-16 06:01
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 509 Martin Stower 14-Feb-16 23:08
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 467 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 23:40
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 575 Origyptian 13-Feb-16 00:22
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 498 Jon Ellison 12-Feb-16 09:48
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 574 Martin Stower 12-Feb-16 03:03
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 630 Corpuscles 12-Feb-16 06:36
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 496 Martin Stower 13-Feb-16 23:08
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 595 R Avry Wilson 12-Feb-16 06:09
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 599 Origyptian 12-Feb-16 16:03
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 518 Pete Vanderzwet 08-Feb-16 18:16
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 556 molder 08-Feb-16 13:22
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 555 Spiros 08-Feb-16 16:06
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 543 Brian Patterson 08-Feb-16 19:10
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 616 cladking 08-Feb-16 20:17
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 612 Pete Vanderzwet 11-Feb-16 03:43
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 599 cladking 11-Feb-16 04:06
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 624 Pete Vanderzwet 11-Feb-16 05:50
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 590 cladking 11-Feb-16 14:34
Some pesky adverbs 658 drrayeye 09-Feb-16 17:08
Re: Some pesky adverbs 593 Pete Vanderzwet 09-Feb-16 18:13
Re: Some pesky adverbs 603 Brian Patterson 09-Feb-16 19:21
Re: Some pesky adverbs 617 Pete Vanderzwet 09-Feb-16 19:24
Re: Some pesky adverbs 535 Brian Patterson 09-Feb-16 19:29
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 646 Sirius7237 10-Feb-16 05:32
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 611 Brian Patterson 11-Feb-16 19:37
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 593 Corpuscles 13-Feb-16 00:06
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 573 Origyptian 13-Feb-16 00:33
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 608 cladking 13-Feb-16 00:43
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 531 Pete Vanderzwet 13-Feb-16 00:42
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 605 Thanos5150 13-Feb-16 01:35
Re: Were the Egyptian Pyramids used as Tombs? 628 Brian Patterson 13-Feb-16 00:37
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