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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> Would you apply the
> same "standard" if the dates were tens of
> thousands of years old? No doubt you would not...


Of course I would! And that's because it's bad science no matter what the result says. When have I ever exhibited any other objective standard?! And I resent your allegation that I would be biased toward such a result.


> ...because it would then tell you what you want to hear...

A back to back absurd slur, and I'm surprised you would say such a thing, of all people here. The ONLY reason I've propsed ANYTHING here is that the so-called "tenets" based on contrived "evidence" to back up them up are revealing themselves as being so bogus that they require such challenge and counter-proposal. From my perspective, that much is obvious, and for you and "Mister" Stower to attempt to recharacterize it to be some devious motive reduces the scholarship of this discussion to the gutter. I urge you to rethink your strategy here.


> > > ...Old Wood...
> >
> > You are seriously still falling for that too, huh?
> >
> > They had that much "old wood" lying around, did they?
> > You honestly believe there is less chance that
> > surface sample could have gotten contaminated by
> > "new carbon"?
>
> > ...I specifically find the OWT as it is applied to this
> RCD study completely bogus which is the point and
> how that conversation got started. Humbly, I
> believe I thoroughly gave the OWT a crushing
> beatdown. If you would like a cogent argument
> against it then please take the time to read.

Well, once again I must have misunderstood that you used Old Wood to justify the validity of the C14 studies. But you characterized the older dates assigned to G1 et al as being a "problem" which in my view indicates a bias on your part that G1 et al are not really that old. Why not claim the newer dates traditionally assigned to G1 are the problem since C14 dating puts the date farther back in time? I obviously misinterpreted your point regarding the 12th Dynasty vs. 1D-6D. Mea culpa. I promise to more slowly reread that part of your current (and 2012) post and give it its due respect. Sorry.


> ...you already have your mind
> made up which nothing less will do.
> This is hardly a "standard" worth championing.

The only thing I've made my mind up about is that the traditional tenets are becoming more tenuous with each passing day, the evidence used to support them is revealing itself to be flimsy at best and totally fabricated at worst, and so we are left with a huge void that needs to be reassessed properly with newer standards and by the appropriate cognate disciplines and not just from the Humanities.

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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 15-Feb-16 20:23 by Origyptian.

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age of the Sphinx 4898 Open mind 24-Nov-15 13:54
Re: age of the Sphinx 1235 Jon Ellison 24-Nov-15 18:34
Re: age of the Sphinx 1138 Pete Vanderzwet 25-Nov-15 00:08
Re: age of the Sphinx 1030 Open mind 25-Nov-15 04:20
Re: age of the Sphinx 913 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-15 14:53
Re: age of the Sphinx 966 Open mind 25-Nov-15 04:43
Re: age of the Sphinx 890 Origyptian 22-Dec-15 18:05
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 1121 laughin 19-Dec-15 15:34
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 870 Harte 24-Dec-15 01:01
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 798 Corpuscles 24-Dec-15 01:39
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 909 Harte 24-Dec-15 14:32
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 769 Origyptian 24-Dec-15 14:49
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 886 Audrey 25-Dec-15 23:39
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 802 Harte 26-Dec-15 00:21
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 702 Audrey 26-Dec-15 01:44
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 752 Origyptian 26-Dec-15 02:40
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 766 Origyptian 24-Dec-15 06:17
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 924 Harte 24-Dec-15 14:37
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 769 Origyptian 24-Dec-15 14:56
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 742 Harte 24-Dec-15 17:23
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 771 Origyptian 24-Dec-15 18:23
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 765 Harte 24-Dec-15 22:51
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 691 Origyptian 25-Dec-15 18:11
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 801 Harte 25-Dec-15 20:19
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 727 Origyptian 26-Dec-15 02:50
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 756 Harte 26-Dec-15 21:45
Re: age of the Sphinx ?. how about 800,000 years 710 Ulrich 23-Jan-16 18:02
Re: age of the Sphinx 879 Mdsign 29-Dec-15 12:01
Re: age of the Sphinx 812 SandyJesse 06-Jan-16 00:59
Re: age of the Sphinx 924 Harte 09-Jan-16 20:43
Re: age of the Sphinx 820 Mdsign 11-Jan-16 10:19
Re: age of the Sphinx 863 SandyJesse 12-Jan-16 23:49
Re: age of the Sphinx 786 Merrell 11-Jan-16 12:07
Re: age of the Sphinx 600 Harte 23-Jan-16 17:19
Re: age of the Sphinx 689 Mdsign 24-Jan-16 16:18
Re: age of the Sphinx 703 Harte 24-Jan-16 22:36
Re: age of the Sphinx 725 Mdsign 25-Jan-16 10:33
Re: age of the Sphinx 616 Origyptian 25-Jan-16 13:45
it is a dog 737 Juha 25-Jan-16 14:50
Re: it is a dog 855 Thanos5150 25-Jan-16 16:37
Re: it is a dog 747 Harte 26-Jan-16 02:14
Re: it is a dog 688 Thanos5150 26-Jan-16 02:35
its leo everywhere 707 Mdsign 26-Jan-16 10:20
Assyrian sphinx is bull 974 Juha 26-Jan-16 12:56
Re: Assyrian sphinx is bull 765 Mdsign 26-Jan-16 13:01
Re: Assyrian sphinx is bull 602 Origyptian 26-Jan-16 14:29
Re: it is a dog 826 Harte 26-Jan-16 11:01
Re: it is a dog 653 Jon Ellison 26-Jan-16 12:18
Re: it is a dog 643 Origyptian 26-Jan-16 14:41
Re: it is a dog 727 Jon Ellison 26-Jan-16 17:10
Re: it is a dog 694 Thanos5150 26-Jan-16 23:31
Re: it is a dog 750 Harte 27-Jan-16 01:08
Re: it is a dog 862 Thanos5150 27-Jan-16 05:49
Re: it is a dog 702 Harte 27-Jan-16 11:12
Re: it is a dog 525 Thanos5150 27-Jan-16 18:21
Re: it is a dog 592 DUNE 27-Jan-16 18:32
Dogleg 754 Dr. Troglodyte 27-Jan-16 19:07
Re: Dogleg 816 Thanos5150 28-Jan-16 00:26
Re: it is a dog 645 Origyptian 27-Jan-16 14:24
Re: it is a dog 641 Jon Ellison 27-Jan-16 11:06
Re: it is a dog 644 Harte 27-Jan-16 11:17
Re: it is a dog 542 Jon Ellison 27-Jan-16 11:22
Re: it is a dog 732 Audrey 27-Jan-16 04:42
Re: it is a dog 624 Thanos5150 27-Jan-16 04:53
Re: it is a dog 594 Audrey 27-Jan-16 06:20
Re: it is a dog 643 Thanos5150 27-Jan-16 19:15
Re: it is a dog 888 Audrey 28-Jan-16 01:55
Re: it is a dog 771 Thanos5150 28-Jan-16 20:24
Re: it is a dog 955 Audrey 29-Jan-16 03:14
Re: it is a dog 581 Juha 29-Jan-16 08:23
Re: it is a dog 561 Mdsign 29-Jan-16 09:30
Re: it is a dog 631 Juha 29-Jan-16 11:01
Re: it is a dog 676 Mdsign 29-Jan-16 11:57
Re: it is a dog 639 Origyptian 29-Jan-16 13:30
Age of Pyramids 647 Juha 29-Jan-16 17:07
Re: Age of Pyramids 537 Origyptian 29-Jan-16 17:42
Re: Age of Pyramids 594 Juha 29-Jan-16 18:29
Re: Age of Pyramids 596 Jon Ellison 29-Jan-16 18:35
Re: Age of Pyramids 509 Juha 29-Jan-16 21:19
Re: Age of Pyramids 616 Jon Ellison 29-Jan-16 21:50
Re: Age of Pyramids 696 Audrey 30-Jan-16 06:46
Re: Age of Pyramids 601 brett z 30-Jan-16 13:14
Re: Age of Pyramids 649 Jon Ellison 30-Jan-16 17:58
Straight lines 614 randompHactor 30-Jan-16 18:15
Re: Age of Pyramids 603 Origyptian 29-Jan-16 18:49
Re: Age of Pyramids 650 Juha 29-Jan-16 21:43
Re: it is a dog 545 Audrey 29-Jan-16 17:58
Re: it is a dog 685 Juha 29-Jan-16 22:39
Re: it is a dog 889 Thanos5150 29-Jan-16 22:37
Re: it is a dog 590 Audrey 30-Jan-16 06:21
Re: it is a dog 650 Thanos5150 30-Jan-16 06:56
Re: it is a dog 494 Audrey 30-Jan-16 07:15
Re: it is a dog 634 Origyptian 30-Jan-16 07:30
Was the Sphinx Originally an Animal? 735 Thanos5150 30-Jan-16 21:35
Re: it is a dog 776 cladking 30-Jan-16 21:52
Re: it is a dog 775 Thanos5150 31-Jan-16 02:15
Re: Was the Sphinx Originally an Animal? 2149 Thanos5150 14-Feb-16 21:54
Re: Was the Sphinx Originally an Animal? 724 DUNE 14-Feb-16 23:45
Re: Was the Sphinx Originally an Animal? 684 Thanos5150 15-Feb-16 00:12
Re: Was the Sphinx Originally an Animal? 724 Audrey 15-Feb-16 03:17
Re: Was the Sphinx Originally an Animal? 712 Thanos5150 15-Feb-16 03:51
Re: Was the Sphinx Originally an Animal? 642 Origyptian 15-Feb-16 00:54
Re: Granite ....to protect against high water 796 Thunderbird 15-Feb-16 03:02
Re: Granite ....to protect against high water 768 Origyptian 15-Feb-16 06:54
Re: Granite ....to protect against high water 676 DUNE 15-Feb-16 10:38
Re: Granite ....to protect against high water 600 Origyptian 15-Feb-16 11:41
Re: Granite ....to protect against high water 619 Jon Ellison 15-Feb-16 13:46
Re: Granite ....to protect against high water 603 Origyptian 15-Feb-16 16:09
Re: Nile and harbor management 716 Thunderbird 15-Feb-16 16:31
Re:Ancient Nile elevations 684 Thunderbird 15-Feb-16 22:59
Re: Was the Sphinx Originally an Animal? 933 Thanos5150 16-Feb-16 23:41
Re: it is a dog 639 Mdsign 29-Jan-16 10:03
Re: Dumuzi....Osiris 839 Thunderbird 26-Jan-16 03:45
Re: Dumuzi....Osiris 1032 Thanos5150 26-Jan-16 04:41
Re: The Akhet (Inundation) and ANPU 697 Thunderbird 26-Jan-16 15:05
Re: Dumuzi....Osiris 688 Mdsign 27-Jan-16 09:57
Re: age of the Sphinx 868 Audrey 26-Jan-16 05:21
back to the time period question 753 Mdsign 27-Jan-16 13:12
Re: Why are the Causeways where they are, 756 DUNE 27-Jan-16 12:01
Re: Why are the Causeways where they are, 646 Spiros 27-Jan-16 13:11
Re: Why are the Causeways where they are, 685 Spiros 27-Jan-16 13:53
Re: Why are the Causeways where they are, 710 cladking 27-Jan-16 15:42
Re: Why are the Causeways where they are, 562 Jon Ellison 27-Jan-16 18:35
Re: Why are the Causeways where they are, 539 cladking 27-Jan-16 20:37
Re: age of the Sphinx 628 Harte 29-Jan-16 19:24
Re: age of the Sphinx 572 randompHactor 29-Jan-16 19:32
Re: age of the Sphinx 587 Origyptian 29-Jan-16 19:39
Re: age of the Sphinx 860 Martin Stower 15-Feb-16 17:52
Re: age of the Sphinx 638 Origyptian 15-Feb-16 18:18
Re: age of the Sphinx 694 Martin Stower 19-Feb-16 17:53
Re: age of the Sphinx 569 Origyptian 19-Feb-16 18:00
Re: age of the Sphinx 860 Martin Stower 19-Feb-16 20:23
Re: age of the Sphinx 634 Thanos5150 15-Feb-16 18:22
Re: age of the Sphinx 626 Origyptian 15-Feb-16 18:36
Re: age of the Sphinx 681 Thanos5150 15-Feb-16 19:21
Re: age of the Sphinx 584 Origyptian 15-Feb-16 19:55
Re: age of the Sphinx 656 Thanos5150 15-Feb-16 21:27
Re: age of the Sphinx 669 Martin Stower 15-Feb-16 22:00
Re: age of the Sphinx 629 Thanos5150 15-Feb-16 22:34
Re: age of the Sphinx 611 Origyptian 15-Feb-16 23:09
Re: age of the Sphinx 580 Martin Stower 16-Feb-16 19:45
Re: age of the Sphinx 792 Origyptian 16-Feb-16 20:07
Re: age of the Sphinx 558 Martin Stower 16-Feb-16 22:03
Re: age of the Sphinx 614 Origyptian 16-Feb-16 23:33
Re: age of the Sphinx 736 Audrey 16-Feb-16 23:44
Re: age of the Sphinx 675 Martin Stower 17-Feb-16 14:40
Re: age of the Sphinx 611 Origyptian 17-Feb-16 15:18
Re: age of the Sphinx 676 Martin Stower 17-Feb-16 15:31
Re: age of the Sphinx 692 Origyptian 17-Feb-16 15:58
Re: age of the Sphinx 575 Audrey 16-Feb-16 23:37
Re: age of the Sphinx 659 Harte 17-Feb-16 11:24
Re: age of the Sphinx 640 Martin Stower 17-Feb-16 15:13
Re: age of the Sphinx 596 Origyptian 17-Feb-16 15:39
Re: age of the Sphinx 577 Martin Stower 17-Feb-16 15:54
Re: age of the Sphinx 610 Origyptian 17-Feb-16 16:40
Re: age of the Sphinx 635 Martin Stower 17-Feb-16 16:55
Re: age of the Sphinx 571 Origyptian 17-Feb-16 17:08
Re: age of the Sphinx 602 Martin Stower 17-Feb-16 23:00
Re: age of the Sphinx 600 Origyptian 17-Feb-16 23:58
Re: age of the Sphinx 491 Martin Stower 18-Feb-16 00:10
Re: age of the Sphinx 664 Origyptian 18-Feb-16 00:15
Re: age of the Sphinx 568 Martin Stower 18-Feb-16 01:07
Re: age of the Sphinx 700 Harte 17-Feb-16 23:55
Re: age of the Sphinx 606 Origyptian 17-Feb-16 15:50
Re: age of the Sphinx 631 Martin Stower 17-Feb-16 14:55
Re: age of the Sphinx 586 Origyptian 17-Feb-16 15:47
Re: age of the Sphinx 541 Martin Stower 17-Feb-16 16:42
Re: age of the Sphinx 501 Origyptian 17-Feb-16 16:49
Re: age of the Sphinx 704 Martin Stower 17-Feb-16 17:03
Re: age of the Sphinx 605 Origyptian 17-Feb-16 17:10
Re: age of the Sphinx 590 Martin Stower 17-Feb-16 23:40
Re: age of the Sphinx 512 Origyptian 18-Feb-16 00:03
Re: age of the Sphinx 640 Martin Stower 18-Feb-16 00:22
Re: age of the Sphinx 600 Harte 17-Feb-16 23:59
Re: age of the Sphinx 587 Martin Stower 18-Feb-16 01:14
Re: age of the Sphinx 547 Origyptian 15-Feb-16 22:51
Re: age of the Sphinx 585 Audrey 15-Feb-16 23:55
Re: age of the Sphinx 538 Origyptian 16-Feb-16 00:25
Re: age of the Sphinx 529 Audrey 16-Feb-16 01:40
Re: age of the Sphinx 604 Origyptian 16-Feb-16 02:50
Re: age of the Sphinx 585 Audrey 16-Feb-16 03:05
Re: age of the Sphinx 586 Origyptian 16-Feb-16 15:06
Re: age of the Sphinx 660 Thanos5150 16-Feb-16 00:20
Re: age of the Sphinx 562 Martin Stower 16-Feb-16 00:37
Re: age of the Sphinx 618 Thanos5150 16-Feb-16 00:44
Re: age of the Sphinx 587 Audrey 16-Feb-16 01:33
Re: age of the Sphinx 595 Martin Stower 16-Feb-16 02:41
Re: age of the Sphinx 688 Audrey 16-Feb-16 02:52
Re: age of the Sphinx 577 Martin Stower 16-Feb-16 03:03
Re: age of the Sphinx 672 Audrey 16-Feb-16 03:08
Re: age of the Sphinx 643 Martin Stower 16-Feb-16 03:18
Re: age of the Sphinx 787 Audrey 16-Feb-16 03:36
Re: age of the Sphinx 662 Jon Ellison 16-Feb-16 04:23
Re: age of the Sphinx 703 Martin Stower 16-Feb-16 14:28
Re: age of the Sphinx 662 Martin Stower 16-Feb-16 14:41
Re: age of the Sphinx 642 Audrey 16-Feb-16 01:30
Re: age of the Sphinx 508 Origyptian 16-Feb-16 02:40
Re: age of the Sphinx 655 Martin Stower 15-Feb-16 21:41
Re: age of the Sphinx 610 Origyptian 15-Feb-16 23:06
Re: age of the Sphinx 747 Martin Stower 16-Feb-16 00:03
Re: age of the Sphinx 712 cladking 16-Feb-16 03:30
Re: age of the Sphinx 700 Martin Stower 16-Feb-16 14:48
Re: age of the Sphinx 699 cladking 16-Feb-16 19:55
Re: age of the Sphinx 706 Martin Stower 15-Feb-16 16:28
Re: age of the Sphinx 721 Brian Patterson 29-Jan-16 20:08


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