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Doc: It seem to me , you and many other people are having a problem getting the gestalt of this concept Or maybe you are not looking for verification of this concept that will change you understanding of your perceived notions of history. You seem to focus on what you think are easy dismissed anomalies to side track the discussion.

So let us take a third tack, and allow the ancient Egyptian to speak for themselves : by looking at a few Papyri. But, first did you know that papyrus is from the Coptic Greek: pa, means mouth and iris, means eyes ? The mouth to the eyes.

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First these Egyptian story tellers (riddle masters) give the most important concept first, at the bottom right. That is a boat sitting on water. With a stair-step triangle of stone. Which has a dual interpretation the first that it deals with Osiris' tomb. Which is connected to a revealing fact that both Osiris and Horus is that stood on the backs of crocodiles 1:



Horus in the specific form of HeruPaKhered is depiction where young Horus is standing on the backs of a crocodiles, (also known as stone barges push boats with oars men both front and rear). Just like our first image of the boat in the first plate. HeruPaKhered is defined from ancient Coptic Greek as Heru": the Coptic form of the Greek word: "HER" and is defined as "the tool of strengths." This root word is used in the Greek man/god named Hercules; Pa, mouth and some times, brag of an awesome accomplishment ; Khered meant, earth or stone moving. This papyrus has crocodile barge concept with a stone barges with push boats with oars men both front and rear and a stack of rocks.



Back to our story, The triangle stack stone is a cross section of a dam. (Don't get a head of me that statement will become crystal clear in a few more images) As you must know dams are thicker at the base than at the top because of the water pressure is higher at the base. Those wavy dark lines below the HeruPaKhered is water, very important to understand that. Now the next image is very strange to most people to portray a column of water that the HeruPaKhered is rising on. Sorry look at the water in the next image: the water is goes up in a similar manor to the previous image with the barge, however, when it hits the top of our stair-step triangle of stone the water then curls over the top


Then the water continues on to give prosperity to farmers and the nation giving great stature to Egypt among other countries leaders. This stair-step triangle is a common image in Egyptian Art, however, people like you Doc and Brian had no idea what “The Mouth to the Eyes” was trying to tell you. I am going to give you some more pretty pictures. But don't stop at the pictures, the Pharaohs of the Old Kingdom want to “talk to your eyes ” too.




Before Egypt was known by the Greek name Egypt, Aigu-ptis2 which is derived from Coptic Greek not from a Egyptian temple: aigialos3 a sea (as in Aegean), and ptoeo4 to cause to flee away, Egypt’s ancient Semitic name was Metz-ra-yim5 the meaning of which is Metz6 the wall or fence, or to capture, Ra7 the power, and Yim8 the river or sea.
I will let the first four Serekhs of Pharaohs of the old Kingdom from the Book Introductory Guide to the Egyptian Collections Published by the British Museum, page 246, Talk to your Eyes and explain the meaning.
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Narmer was the first Pharaoh of the First Egyptian Dynasty. This pharaoh’s Serekh illustrates the narrows (Matsuwd9) near modern Cairo with the island Roda and the Nile passing on each side of the island in the middle of the between the two sets of parallel lines.




Satellite Picture you can see that the Egyptian's had rotated shape of the island it was their way of getting around using three point perspective. When you look a images you will almost always see the in profile. But the so called catfish it is an over head image. A stylized HeruPaKhered, with oars to look like whiskers two eyes symbolizing the two helmsmen and the tail of the fish as the loading ramps for stone.


The second Pharaoh was Aha and his Serekh shows the narrows near Cairo Creating a Wall and Egypt became to be known as Matsuwr10 the Wall also known as Rahab11. The Horus hawk glyph is holding a mirrored Ankh and stone which implies that Aha was the stone quarrying for the Isis Dam.

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Quarrying 2.3 Million Stone Blocks
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The third Pharaoh was Djer seem to be doing the construction of the Wall or Matzuwr and installing the flood gates of the Isis Dam. Djet the fourth Pharaoh completed the Isis Dam project and officially divided the upper and lower states of Egypt a project that brought great prosperity to the land of Egypt. Lower Egypt symbolized by the Red Crown. The glyph of which is the a red crown with an ostrich feather a glyph symbolizing the dam and the water cascading over causing the mist to rise and a half circle with crosshatching symbolizing the masonry dam filling the narrows near the island of Roda. Upper Egypt is symbolized by the kite glyph interpreted to symbolize the speed of shipping on the Sea of Nun the Upper Egypt glyph also has the dam symbol below it. The main image is the wall the Matzuwr symbolized in three ways first the wall with water heaped up over the top second the stylized Matzuwr and thirdly the wall Serekh with a snake zig zaging to symbolize the water cascading over the stair-step dam, with Horus above

.The Egyptians also called the Great Pyramid at ancient Heliopolis “Innu, the Pillar “or The Pillar of Enoch. The ancient Egyptians regarded this pillar to be the first portion of land to have forced itself free of the “Sea of NUN” that was behind the Isis Dam . Atum another name for the Pyramid spoke of itself:

“When I was alone in the waters, in a state of inertness, before I was found anywhere to stand or sit, before, Heliopolis had been founded that I might be therein”

Again speaking of Atum in the Utterance 600 of the Pyramid Text;

” When you came into being you rose as a High Hill You shone as the Benben Stone in the Temple of the Phoenix”

Water in the Desert, Ramps verses Crocodiles
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The Legacy of Isis, Metzrayim
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Resurrection of Osiris
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Funny thing is the Geological records of the Nile River valley show that sudden river rise at a time of World Wide Drought. “But Doc, you seem to want to get in to petty details.”



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03-Dec-15 02:31 by Howard West.

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