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cladking Wrote:
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> Martin Stower Wrote:
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> > Which amounts to dragging them up a (relatively
> > steep) inclined plane.
> >
> > So much for coherence.
>
> Sure! Dragging them up the 70 degree step sides
> is technically using a "ramp".
Yes, it is. Also, you need to justify that figure.
If they were dragging things up a slope anyway, then reducing that slope would be a natural step to take.
[. . .]
> There were no teams of men dragging stones on
> ramps. [. . .]
You were there? I see nothing less which would justify so plonking an assertion.
No dragging stones on ramps—but dragging them up 70 degree slopes, yes.
[. . .]
> Semantics. [. . .]
And without semantics, your words amount to . . . ?
> Meanwhile the actual physical, cultural, and
> historical evidence as well as common sense all
> suggest stones were pulled straight up the side of
> five step pyramids one step at a time.
Yeah, common sense, right.
Seems to me that you’re doing what you constantly accuse others of doing: treating the ancient Egyptians as bumpkins, who did things which make no sense.
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> Mechanical advantage is a huge hindrance on jobs
> that require an extreme amount of work.
> Mechanical advantage ALWAYS and BY DEFINITION
> increases the total amount of work required. [. . .]
What fools people are to make use of it, then—and yet somehow they do, to make things doable. Total amount of work is not always an overriding consideration.
[. . .]
M.
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> Martin Stower Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> > Which amounts to dragging them up a (relatively
> > steep) inclined plane.
> >
> > So much for coherence.
>
> Sure! Dragging them up the 70 degree step sides
> is technically using a "ramp".
Yes, it is. Also, you need to justify that figure.
If they were dragging things up a slope anyway, then reducing that slope would be a natural step to take.
[. . .]
> There were no teams of men dragging stones on
> ramps. [. . .]
You were there? I see nothing less which would justify so plonking an assertion.
No dragging stones on ramps—but dragging them up 70 degree slopes, yes.
[. . .]
> Semantics. [. . .]
And without semantics, your words amount to . . . ?
> Meanwhile the actual physical, cultural, and
> historical evidence as well as common sense all
> suggest stones were pulled straight up the side of
> five step pyramids one step at a time.
Yeah, common sense, right.
Seems to me that you’re doing what you constantly accuse others of doing: treating the ancient Egyptians as bumpkins, who did things which make no sense.
[. . .]
> Mechanical advantage is a huge hindrance on jobs
> that require an extreme amount of work.
> Mechanical advantage ALWAYS and BY DEFINITION
> increases the total amount of work required. [. . .]
What fools people are to make use of it, then—and yet somehow they do, to make things doable. Total amount of work is not always an overriding consideration.
[. . .]
M.
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