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My calculations were based on the weight of the three stones being I think around 30 tones and the water column from entrance to AP being equivalent to a bit over 50 tones. The curious experiment that someone did regarding the coefficient of friction of granite equaling the opposed downward sliding force only at an angle equal to the angle of the AP, that being 26 degrees, was a significant prod in this direction.

If these plugs had a system for removal, I would presume that every time they were replaced, there would need to be some patch work and some plaster type material spread on the surfaces at the bottom so that when the plugs slid into place, the gaps would seal well for pressure. In this case, the plaster wouldn't need to be that of a strong hardening bond as it would only need to remain solid enough to fill gaps under great pressure from the granite plugs leaning down on the bottom surface.

If that were true, (multiple assumptions here but...), then the force you'd be facing to remove the plugs would be the coefficient of friction of these blocks initial wedged position. After they were pushed free from that stuck position, the pressure necessary to simply push them up could be closer to a one to one in force from the water weight to the stone weight as they're both loading pressure on the same slope.

Any discrepancy of this system and force measurement can of course also be affected by a mechanical linkage in the system that affords 'advantage' if necessary. Meaning you adjust it to a lower gear, say a 2 to 1 for the weight of the water pushing on the rock, which give the equivalent of 100 tones of water vs 30 tones of granite. Its presumable that might be sufficient or some mechanical advantage could solve the force requirement necessary for that first most difficult push to break the static coefficient of friction. Again, after that, it might be closer to a 1 to 1 push for distance for every fill and jack, (hence my proposal that a few days would be all that's necessary for this system to complete its plug push up into the GG.

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Removable plugs on purpose 2717 Open mind 21-Nov-15 17:11
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Re: Removable plugs on purpose 765 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Nov-15 00:53
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Re: Removable plugs on purpose 721 Origyptian 24-Nov-15 20:36
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Re: Removable plugs on purpose 718 Brian Patterson 24-Nov-15 22:22
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According to Archae... 640 Ratcho 28-Nov-15 22:09
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Re: Removable plugs on purpose 756 Dr. Troglodyte 25-Nov-15 16:25
Why the Plugs were covered by dirt 747 Howard West 29-Nov-15 16:48
Re: Why the Plugs were covered by dirt 708 Origyptian 30-Nov-15 04:57
Re: Why the Plugs were covered by dirt 575 Howard West 30-Nov-15 16:07
Old Posters seem to act like the Caliph Omar 693 Howard West 30-Nov-15 17:11
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 651 Brian Patterson 30-Nov-15 17:17
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 621 Howard West 30-Nov-15 18:07
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Re: Removable plugs on purpose 702 Howard West 30-Nov-15 23:01
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 633 Brian Patterson 30-Nov-15 23:15
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 686 Howard West 01-Dec-15 02:34
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 758 Howard West 01-Dec-15 22:36
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 738 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Dec-15 00:48
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 628 Brian Patterson 02-Dec-15 00:29
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 734 Howard West 02-Dec-15 03:46
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 667 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Dec-15 21:04
some people just need lots of pictures 964 Howard West 03-Dec-15 02:12


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