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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> First of all we are assuming that their technology
> was similar to ours, Hydro carbon fossil fuel
> based, metallurgy and synthetics. Maybe it did get
> buried and it just hasn't been discovered yet or
> it has been discovered but not recognised.
> Or not recognised by all, which is why this
> website exists.
Sure, I understand this. But This is why I say the civilization would have to be compressed in time and space. Otherwise all their artefacts couldn't have been destroyed. "Atlantis" might fit this but certainly no widespread culture.
There are fossilized spark plugs from the 1920's so there can certainly be any number of other such items.
> You seem to be assuming that there can be only one
> genre of technically advanced civilization which
> would have been comparable to ours.
> We also have no idea how long a hypothetical
> civilization existed for. 5000... 10,000 ??
> It may be technologically alien, but not
> necessarily extraterrestrial.
I believe exactly this did occur but people don't accept my idea of a science based on logic and observation. I don't claim to know every possible type of science but it seems there should be a finite and small number of possibilities. Certainly metaphysics can vary. It seems any sort of technologically advanced science would necessarily be experimentally based. Not only the technology was lost in its entirety but so was the metaphysics.
> Science is a journey in which decisions have to be
> constantly made. The problem with making a
> decision is that it excludes all other
> possibilities.
> If you come to a fork in the road... Take both if
> you can.
>
> If this possibility is properly explored then we
> may learn a great deal.
I very much agree. I describe it as comparing all new knowledge not only to what is known but to the metaphysics and the definitions. But we aren't doing that but rather looking at the same thing from different knowledge sets. Engineers and scientists get one result and Egyptologists another.
I suppose I should just try to be patient since they are finally employing modern science at Giza so we will be getting answers to fundamental questions. Right now my most fundamental question is what lies at the other end of the passage marked by the heat anomaly.
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> First of all we are assuming that their technology
> was similar to ours, Hydro carbon fossil fuel
> based, metallurgy and synthetics. Maybe it did get
> buried and it just hasn't been discovered yet or
> it has been discovered but not recognised.
> Or not recognised by all, which is why this
> website exists.
Sure, I understand this. But This is why I say the civilization would have to be compressed in time and space. Otherwise all their artefacts couldn't have been destroyed. "Atlantis" might fit this but certainly no widespread culture.
There are fossilized spark plugs from the 1920's so there can certainly be any number of other such items.
> You seem to be assuming that there can be only one
> genre of technically advanced civilization which
> would have been comparable to ours.
> We also have no idea how long a hypothetical
> civilization existed for. 5000... 10,000 ??
> It may be technologically alien, but not
> necessarily extraterrestrial.
I believe exactly this did occur but people don't accept my idea of a science based on logic and observation. I don't claim to know every possible type of science but it seems there should be a finite and small number of possibilities. Certainly metaphysics can vary. It seems any sort of technologically advanced science would necessarily be experimentally based. Not only the technology was lost in its entirety but so was the metaphysics.
> Science is a journey in which decisions have to be
> constantly made. The problem with making a
> decision is that it excludes all other
> possibilities.
> If you come to a fork in the road... Take both if
> you can.
>
> If this possibility is properly explored then we
> may learn a great deal.
I very much agree. I describe it as comparing all new knowledge not only to what is known but to the metaphysics and the definitions. But we aren't doing that but rather looking at the same thing from different knowledge sets. Engineers and scientists get one result and Egyptologists another.
I suppose I should just try to be patient since they are finally employing modern science at Giza so we will be getting answers to fundamental questions. Right now my most fundamental question is what lies at the other end of the passage marked by the heat anomaly.
Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.
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