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> The beautiful carvings of Greek and Roman
> culture show an amazing ability using hand tools.
> Consider David.

Carrara marble is a pretty soft stone compared to Aswan granite. How much granite did Michelangelo sculpt?


> So accepting the presumption that Egyptian
> culture could have assembled all these sites, but
> they couldn't have fabricated many of the
> carvings, it points me in one of two directions.
> Alien assisted Egyptians or artifacts from a far
> older culture that were inherited by the
> Egyptians. And I far prefer the latter.

Welcome to the club.


> But if we are limited to the only kind of
> proof being circumstantial evidence of the context
> of findings around the site, you can see how a
> culture that takes over a previous more advanced
> culture's left overs can be a huge source of
> misdirection.

I believe that is the crux of the massive contradiction Egyptology has gotten itself into over the past few centuries that have made their traditional tenets so untenable. The physical evidence is comprised of a complex stratification of multiple cultures, one or more of which date back far before any historic record, but Egyptologists look at is as a single, linear, cultural development and that approach has introduced catastrophic errors in the orthodox timeline which has led traditionalists to insist that the 75% of all pyramid work was already completed by the end of the Old Kingdom with unknown tools and methods.


> I suspect comet damage could
> fairly easily melt our pop cans and Styrofoam
> plastics in a flash.

In theory, every organic material anywhere near the surface of the earth would be instantly vaporized from the heat of atmospheric friction caused by polar shift.


> Its really no wonder the
> only things left were huge stone construction.

Why is this so obvious to those who think scientifically and so repulsive by those who do not?


> Anything else must have succumbed to the scorch
> power of a comet or the aggressive oxidization of
> flooding. The only stuff left would be burrowed
> deep in the earth and we won't find that stuff
> until we have huge advancements in technology, or
> power ball odds of luck.

One reason to look forward to deeper excavations at Baalbek. As far as I can tell, they still have not reached bedrock yet.


> And considering the
> devastating implications on all religion around
> the world, if anything is found, there's a fairly
> good reason to keep it under wraps so as not to
> inspire terrifying reactions.

Even if evidence of aliens is discovered, as long as religions decree that the evidence was created by God, then perhaps there isn't that much threat to the religion.


> With respect to the pyramids, I'm getting the
> impression there are some that are old, and there
> may be some that are copy cat constructions, so
> there would be many pit falls to evaluate them all
> together with the same assumptions.

This is indeed one of the main problems in the notion that all of the so-called Old Kingdom pyramids were part of a single 200+ year construction project.

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