> Ori, one of the consistent things
> you post goes something along the lines of this.
> If the ancients built/quarried
> these structures, why is there zero
> evidence of the tools they used in the construction.
First of all, not all "ancients" are created equal. Some people consider the Roman Empire to be "ancient". But that kind of "ancient" is not the same thing as the far older civilizations like those responsible for Stonehenge, Gobekli, and Giza. So we need to keep in mind the millennia spread between civilizations before we rush to call them all "ancient" and imply with that single label that they somehow share the same likelihood of evidence of them remaining to be discovered today. I have differing perspectives regarding what to expect in terms of evidence for each era since it's hardly rational to expect the same kind of evidence from the civilization that built the Pantheon and that which produced the 1000+ ton megaliths in Lebanon.
Also, I never said anything as vague as your characterization, above. My comments about whether certain evidence is available is always with respect to a specific civilization within the context of the discussion. For example, I believe we don't see tools lying around that were used to built G1 because it was built so many millennia ago, that any other record of that civilization has been corroded, dissolved, disintegrated, buried, reused, etc. such that only the stonework has survived in recognizable form.
> Then, on another thread, you posted:
> "And why would you think aliens
> would leave their tools behind, especially
> if they brought such tools with them?"
Likewise, we have no reason at all to assume an alien presence would leave its stuff here when it finished the job. Having said that, I've never claimed any alien presence was responsible for anything we see here on Earth. I've only accepted the mere possibility of such. Big difference.
There is nothing in that post that contradicts anything I've posted before or after. In that post I quoted you as stating a dogmatic claim that presumed to know something about "aliens" -- "they would have left behind evidence of their stone working super-tools, and super-spacecraft" -- and I challenged you on it.
> You know yourself that you have
> been nothing short of disingenuous in
> your debating tactics, demanding evidence from
> others, that you seem to find no need for in
> support of your own wild speculations.
I continue to challenge you to point out an example. Your attempt at an example, above, is faulty and does not apply to your allegation.
The only time you see me "demanding evidence from others" is when others make a firm claim that they know something that they really do not know, like the claim that G1 was built 4500 years ago by Khufu, or the claim that the Romans produced those megaliths at Baalbek, or that we must necessarily take someone's word for any claim they make simply (and naively) on the basis that they've spent many years studying it. Good heavens, if we've learned anything about archeology, it's that practice makes permanent, it doesn't make perfect, and it needs to be scrutinized and challenged early and often because too many people are blindly gullible about such things, and such blind faith tends to propagate contrived ideological fiction while aggressively interfering in the honest pursuit of the truth.
How can any of us ever know, when all we can do is think?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03-Jan-16 00:43 by Origyptian.