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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> I agree with you, the scan clearly indicates lines
> parallel with the base. Not a spiral.
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> <[www.flickr.com]
> 494433/in/dateposted-public/>
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> Spiral indicated in white.
> Pink/green boundary's indicated in yellow.
> Parallel lines.
> The one line at an angle is illustrated in blue,
> Which is pitched in the opposite direction to the
> claimed angled ramp.
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> I see no correlation at all between the white
> spiral lines and the pink/green boundary lines.
>
> If we eliminate the phantom white line spiral
> altogether, it becomes even more evident.
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> <[www.flickr.com]
> 451544/in/dateposted-public/>


As part of his argument that they were spiral ramps, Thanos invokes the mainstream opinion, but as far as I can tell, there is only ONE source for that contention, and it's Bui's graphic of his gravitometric data that everyone else is basing their contention on. So it's more of a lemming phenomenon and not something that's been independently confirmed across mainstream investigators.

In my opinion, any claim that Bui's data indicates that G1's construction was based on a spiral ramp is bogus. In one of Houdin's videos there is a short segment in Bui's lab, and on the screen you can see that infamous graphic, and as he changes a parameter on his keyboard you can see the "spiral ramps" slowly dissolve into parallel steps...and then into ramps that incline in the OPPOSITE direction, and back and forth they went has he changed his parameter back and forth. The presence of ramps going either way vs. parallel steps was subject to the bias dialed in by the investigator. The only thing that was consistent in the data was the fact that the structure seemed to be segmented into discrete steps, with parallel steps being the middle of the bias range (and therefore the most likely?).

I had no preconceived notion going into that video (other than just being glad that someone was proposing ANY alternative to the silly notion of a huge construction ramp), but the distinct impression I got from that demonstration is that either Bui or Houdin simply asserted his own "preference" about where the data bias should be inserted, and instead of taking the "average" of the bias and settling on the middle ground "parallel steps", for whatever reason, the depiction of the "spiral ramp" on one side of the bias was chosen. When I heard afterward that Bui forbids any reproduction/altering of his graphic, it only further emphasized the tenuous nature of the ramps derived from that gravitometric data.

Basically, based on the the low resolution matrix of his sensors and the algorithm applied to that data, in my opinion the direction of the ramps can be construed as a form of nyquist sampling artifacts (similar to how a spoked wheel sometimes seems to be rotating too slowly or even backwards in a fast moving vehicle in a 24 fps video) and that the true data could just as well (or even more likely) indicate simple Saqqara-esque steps comprising the core.

Frankly, the sensor matrix was so small that it makes one wonder whether the "stepping" itself might be a quantization artifact due to the low resolution of the data.

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