> Lake Titicaca was once open to the Pacific
> Ocean....proof is the sea-horses still living
It is possible this may be an old wives tale proliferated by a local merchant giving Posnansky a dried seahorse. Here is a good write up on it from an old GHMB thread:
Unfortunately, “Uriel's Machine” is repeating claims that have been completely discredited by detailed studies of the aquatic fauna of Lake Titicaca a long time ago. Starting with Moon (1941), several biologists, i.e. Vaux et al. (1988) and Vellard et al. (1992), have studied the fauna of Lake Titicaca and searched for seahorses within it and found none. As discussed by Garner (1963), there are differing and contradictory written accounts about when, where, and how Posnansky acquired his single seahorse specimen and a complete lack of any credible evidence supporting Posnansky’s report of seahorses living within Lake Titicaca.
In his book “Inca Land: Explorations in the Highlands of Peru, Hiram Bingham stated about this matter:
“Señor Posnansky pins his faith to a small dried seahorse
once given him by a Titicaca fisherman. He seems to forget
that dried specimens of marine life, including starfish, are
frequently offered for sale in the Andes by the dealers in
primitive medicines who may be found in almost every
market-place. Probably Señor Posnansky's seahorse was
brought from the ocean by some particularly enterprising
trader. Although starfish are common enough in the Andes
and a seahorse has actually found its resting-place in La Paz,
this does not alter the fact that scientific investigators have
never found any strictly marine fauna in Lake Titicaca.”
In addition, the claim that “marine fishes” are found in Lake Titicaca is complete fiction as published research concerning Lake Titicaca, i..e Dejoux et al. (1992), Vaux et al. (1988), and Vellard et al. (1992), have repeatedly documented. The complete lack of marine fish living in Lake Titicaca is discussed by Garner (1963)
There are other examples of blatant problems with the scholarship in “Uriel's Machine” that are discussed in “Tollmann's hypothetical bolide” at [en.wikipedia.org].
Dejoux, C., and A. Iltis, eds., 1992, Lake Titcaca, A Symposium
of Limnological Knowledge. Kluwer Academic, Boston.
Garner, H. F., 1963, Mountains from mole hills. Geological
Society of America Bulletin. vol. 74, no. 2, pp. 195-196.
Moon, H. P., 1941, Geologia y fisiografia del altiplano del
Peru y Bolivia: Mineras Petroleras Direction Bolletin, v. 64-65,
Vaux, P. W. Wurtsbaugh, H. Trevino, L. Marino, E.
Bustamante, J. Torres, P. Richerson and R. Alfaro, 1998,
Ecology of the Pelagic Fishes of Lake Titicaca, Peru-
Bolivia. Biotropica. vol. 20, no. 3, pp. 220-229.
Vellard, J., 1992., Lake Titicaca. A synthesis of limnological
knowledge: former lake fisheries and fish fauna of the lake.
Monographiae Biologicae. vol. 68, pp. 495-499.
> The water/mud came to Puma Punku from the South in
> the river that flows thru the Basin when it was in
> flash-flood stage(s), centuries ago,
Related, for what it is worth the Bolivian archaeologist I spoke to on site, though sympathetic to Posnansky, said that the so-called "port" at Puma Punku was for the ancient river or "canal", possibly artificial, that lead to the site from Lake Titicaca and never sat on the lake itself. Looking at the valley towards the lake it was easy to see though how it would have been much larger and have been close to the site regardless.
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