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Hi Thanos

Thanks for the interesting reply etc.

Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> The obelisks, or "stele", were supposedly made
> around the 4th century AD. The general Nubian
> region has a long history and close connections
> with the ancient AE dating back thousands of years
> to predynastic times. The AE believed the gods
> originated from the land of Punt which may likely
> have been somewhere along the coast of the Red Sea
> near modern day Ethiopia. The Kingdom of Kush of
> Biblical fame dates back to at least c. 2,500BC.
> In the 1st millennium BC in particular, the
>
> Point is, it would not be surprising to find this
> motif on the obelisks of Axum.

For obvious reasons it is ironic (and perhaps could be seen as somewhat hypocritical ) that I find it difficult to believe that ALL OF these many stele / obelisks were made 4century AD. ie Late Roman era but a Christian Ethiopian king? Nah! I think if some/many were made by copycats?

In context with the pics you presented in the "lost at sea" Menkaure 'coffer' thread (particularly the square corner protrusions) and this obsession scattered globally with false doorways. Seems to me more oomph!!!to your 'reminiscing of a lost past' theory. But maybe it was just a variation of perhaps very ancient 'belief' the deceased having a house to live in in afterlife. Geez! I would be frustrated trying to open those bloody windows and doors... as in real life sometimes LOL ;-)




>
> But in relevance to this topic, the gateways of
> Tiahuanaco are quite interesting:
>
> They remind me of the what is found at the Palace
> of Darius at Persepolis in Persia, modern day
> Iran:

Darius seems to me to have been an extremely interesting king. Just wondering since you are well travelled have you seen this palace personally? If so, does it have a feeling of being a functional residence? Do the Iranian people or professional experts have much data on Darius and do you know of any good books/resources on the subject?

>
> I do not believe the cyclopean masonry culture
> seen in Egypt and elsewhere were originally from
> Mesopotamia.

Sorry over the years I have mistakenly? presumed you were suggesting that region as being the re-start point of "civilized culture" post catastrophe?
>
> An interesting thought I would point out while
> it's on my brain is it is curious to me the the
> builders of the granite Valley Temple facing would
> construct in the cyclopean style:
>
> Yet not repeat the method inside the interiors of
> any of the pyramids. Doesn't make much sense.
>

Yes we briefly discussed in the infamous "order" thread. I was not game to comment then (partly due to inferior knowledge) but will now suggest that the 'cyclopean style' as you call it, screams to me of construction at a time when there was much regular/prolonged or expected seismic activity or upheaval on the planet. The genius manner of fitting allows for movement and resettle, but distributes force vectors as to not easily cause collapse.

Yes this granite work is called "lining" but I cautiously an inexpertly suggest it was stand alone original then later enclosed? Albeit I realise at Giza there is other signs of inferior attempts to dress monolithic limestone with granite.

On the other hand the lining of pyramids (uniform and finely finished) are not nearly as load bearing. It is either relatively free standing KC or enclosed and buttressed by surrounding stone constructed in the most stable overall shape of them all.

... one last re another reply post... there is brilliance all over the world but some of the precision Peru/Bolivia etc as per some of Lover's pics are of utter astounding technology and speak of mass production of modular construction techniques of huge scale. Sure those darned Serapeum boxes and manner of transport scream high tech but the Puma Punku stuff is intricate and highly designed not just precision 90deg finishes so to me more or most impressive.

Few thoughts from a dumb amateur hobbyist

Cheers

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