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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> > What the evidence suggests to me is that these
> > foreigners were limited in numbers,
> > separate/separated from their governments, and
> > stayed to evolve along with the local
> populations.
> > Given their technical and cultural
> "superiority"
> > the quickly were able to take control with
> little
> > conflict. Part and parcel with this I would
> > suggest is some of their imposing and strange
> > physical appearance, being robust in stature
> with
> > odd skulls. They may have been seen as divine
> > and/or sold themselves as such. Unlike the
> > pharaohs, Mesopotamian kings were not
> considered
> > gods which I thinks speaks to this.
> >
> > Narmer is depicted as a large imposing figure
> > wearing the elongated white crown of upper
> Egypt:
>
> >
> >
> > Bloodlines were obviously very important to AE
> > nobility and again elongated skulls associated
> > with royalty were common physically for nearly
> > 2,000yrs. I do not think this a coincidence. As
> > weird as elongated skulls may be, its is a real
> > thing with a long and curious history spanning
> > thousands of years and several cultures in the
> > greater ancient Mediterranean world.
> >
> > Regardless, Mesopotamia was a land of merchants
> > whose economy was powered by traveling far and
> > wide for goods which was ultimately the
> > relationship that was first struck long before
> the
> > formation of the Dynastic state. To theorize, I
> > suspect the people that became the Foreign
> Elites,
> > the 1st pharaohs, were relatively small groups
> > with a separatist bent motivated to take
> control
> > of Egypt to command and exploit trade who
> > basically set themselves as as living "gods". I
> > have to wonder if the ritual of burying boats
> was
> > part of this forsaking of their nationality to
> > live for good in Egypt. Maybe a sign of fealty.
>
> One thing I would add to this is that a recent RCD
> study drastically reduced the length of the Naqada
> period suggesting it began sometime between
> 3800-3700BC and not 4400BC as previously
> suggested.
> [url=https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24145-
> carbon-dating-shows-ancient-egypts-rapid-expansion
> /]Carbon dating shows ancient Egypt’s rapid
> expansion.[/url]
> [url=http://rspa.royalsocietypublishing.org/conten
> t/469/2159/20130395]An absolute chronology for
> early Egypt using radiocarbon dating and Bayesian
> statistical modelling[/url]
> [quote]During the Predynastic period, progress
> “becomes faster and faster, so much happens”,
> he says. “In the last two centuries, around 3200
> BC, it is breathtaking.”[/quote]
>
> The study notes:
> [quote]Our dates for the beginning of Naqada IIIA
> centre [Dynasty 0] on the late thirty-fourth
> century BCE (table 1) and coincide remarkably
> closely with the first evidence for cuneiform
> script in Mesopotamia [30]....
>
> Consequently, our data support a shortening of the
> Egyptian Predynastic, the period over which state
> formation occurred, to between 600 and 700
> calendar years (table 1). This finding accentuates
> a contrast with neighbouring southwest Asia, where
> the transition from cereal production to state
> formation took somewhere between four and five
> millennia. It reinforces the suggestion that,
> despite their geographical proximity, prehistoric
> societies in Africa and Asia followed very
> different trajectories to political
> centralization....[/quote]
>
> Yes, quite different. They don't say it, but the
> vibe I get from these comments is an allusion to
> the fact they had help from Mesopotamia.
>
> When all of these RCD studies are considered, what
> they show is the OK on average is about 200yrs
> older, some sites even older, with the Naqada
> period beginning some 600-700yrs later where the
> Dynasty 0/1 period represents an
> uncharacteristically rapid explosion of high
> culture. These models and dates all provide for
> ranges of probability which it is quite possible
> the period between Dynasty 0 (according to this
> study c. avg 3300BC) and Giza is even shorter. If
> we consider the average of the '95 RCD dates of G1
> at c. 2750BC we are looking at a period of less
> than 600yrs, maybe less, perhaps much less,
> between the 1st Elite tombs and the Great Pyramid.

We're chasing Chronology again....

I do agree that it was a rapid development, evolution, etc. into a true civilization for the AE.....maybe it was too fast, and this caused later problems, e.g. 2nd Dynasty.(Historically, ppl can/will take alot of crap from above, but there are human limits to this. Fastest way to get a ppl to riot/revolt against their Govt. is to deprive them of food.)

Currently accepted Pyramide dates stand until proven otherwise.
Campbell's Chamber roof blocks are Tura Limestone until proven otherwise.
THE Cartouche in Campbell's Chamber IS Authentic, as are ALL other RC's Glyphs, until proven otherwise.


"This Forgery 'theory' has more holes than a sieve basket."

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Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 7994 Thanos5150 01-Aug-15 02:50
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 1022 Notinham 01-Aug-15 14:23
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 1171 Graham Chase 02-Aug-15 19:59
Re: Ubaid onward 1066 Thunderbird 01-Aug-15 20:40
Re: Ubaid onward 1220 Thanos5150 02-Aug-15 04:37
Re: Ubaid onward 1130 Notinham 02-Aug-15 17:31
Re: Ubaid onward 1187 Thanos5150 02-Aug-15 18:18
Re: Ubaid onward 926 Notinham 02-Aug-15 19:15
Re: Vinca/Copper/Caucuses 946 Thunderbird 02-Aug-15 20:06
Re: Vinca/Copper/Caucuses 1006 Thanos5150 03-Aug-15 16:12
Re: Vinca/Copper/Caucuses 1016 Thunderbird 03-Aug-15 19:51
Re: Vinca/Copper/Caucuses 1083 Thanos5150 03-Aug-15 22:14
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 764 Manu 19-Nov-16 17:53
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 873 Thanos5150 19-Nov-16 18:35
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 940 Thanos5150 20-Nov-16 05:55
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 943 Manu 20-Nov-16 07:45
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 941 Thanos5150 20-Nov-16 22:27
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 833 Manu 21-Nov-16 00:06
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 915 Thanos5150 21-Nov-16 02:28
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 1072 Manu 21-Nov-16 06:18
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 1233 Thanos5150 22-Nov-16 18:49
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 862 Manu 22-Nov-16 19:07
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 719 Thanos5150 23-Nov-16 22:59
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 835 Manu 22-Nov-16 19:28
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 854 DScribr 23-Nov-16 02:24
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 760 Manu 22-Nov-16 19:40
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 770 Thanos5150 22-Nov-16 21:21
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 826 Manu 22-Nov-16 22:49
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 994 Thanos5150 23-Nov-16 02:31
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 826 Manu 23-Nov-16 04:25
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 919 Thanos5150 24-Nov-16 20:01
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 936 Warwick 24-Nov-16 20:18
Mesopotamia link to Optics 404 engbren 15-May-19 15:01
Re: Mesopotamia link to Optics 389 Thanos5150 15-May-19 19:40
Re: Mesopotamia link to Optics 387 engbren 16-May-19 07:52
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 754 DScribr 23-Nov-16 02:17
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 928 Thanos5150 23-Nov-16 03:49
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 785 DScribr 23-Nov-16 14:52
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 786 DScribr 23-Nov-16 02:11
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 814 DScribr 23-Nov-16 02:04
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 843 Thanos5150 23-Nov-16 04:29
Re: Mesopotamian Origins of Writing 726 DScribr 23-Nov-16 15:08
Re: Mesopotamian Origins of Writing 882 Thanos5150 24-Nov-16 05:32
Re: Mesopotamian Origins of Writing 950 Thanos5150 25-Nov-16 06:12
Re: Mesopotamian Origins of Writing 813 DScribr 25-Nov-16 17:40
Re: Mesopotamian Origins of Writing 676 DScribr 25-Nov-16 17:34
Re: Mesopotamian Origins of Writing 814 Thanos5150 25-Nov-16 21:17
The Ankh 742 DScribr 26-Nov-16 16:16
Re: The Ankh 1018 Thanos5150 26-Nov-16 18:15
Re: The Ankh 820 DScribr 26-Nov-16 18:42
Re: Mesopotamian Origins of Writing 753 SandyJesse 14-Dec-16 00:24
Re: Mesopotamian Origins of Writing 948 Thanos5150 15-Dec-16 18:16
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 658 Thanos5150 20-Mar-19 06:30
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 391 engbren 20-Mar-19 08:53
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 431 Corpuscles 20-Mar-19 11:55
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 405 Thanos5150 22-Mar-19 03:22
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 410 jamesglory 22-Mar-19 03:47
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 584 Thanos5150 22-Mar-19 05:27
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 441 jamesglory 25-Mar-19 01:34
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 406 eyeofhorus33 25-Mar-19 18:00
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 418 eyeofhorus33 25-Mar-19 18:16
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 388 Dr. Troglodyte 25-Mar-19 20:18
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 427 Thanos5150 25-Mar-19 20:35
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 461 Thanos5150 26-Mar-19 01:58
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 236 Thanos5150 21-Feb-20 16:12
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 254 waggy 21-Feb-20 18:43
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 246 Manu 21-Feb-20 19:29
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 255 waggy 21-Feb-20 21:16
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 298 Thanos5150 22-Feb-20 02:58
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 166 Thanos5150 10-Nov-20 23:40
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 100 Tony S. 25-Mar-21 16:24


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