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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> DScribr Wrote:
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> > On their writing methods: You had posted
> yesterday
> > pics showing the AE and Mesos writing methods,
> (or
> > systems) was very similar at their beginnings,
> but
> > then they evolved separately into the 2 very
> > different writing methods we know today.
> >
> > IMO, this seems to support the idea that they
> were
> > once friends, trade partners etc....but then
> > parted ways soon after the use of pictograms
> > began, and this is much earlier than what most
> of
> > the evidence supports.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> What the evidence suggests to me is that these
> foreigners were limited in numbers,
> separate/separated from their governments, and
> stayed to evolve along with the local populations.

IMO, it's possible the foreigners were still in contact w/ their own Govt. as Emissaries, as trade partners, etc. at least for a time period, (a century?) and possibly for a time as oppressors. I agree, some did stay and mix, evolve, etc. w/ the locals.
(I was attempting to establish some sort of time-frame for their 'divorce' by using the beginninsg of their respective writing systems divergence.)


> Given their technical and cultural "superiority"
> the quickly were able to take control with little
> conflict. Part and parcel with this I would
> suggest is some of their imposing and strange
> physical appearance, being robust in stature with
> odd skulls. They may have been seen as divine
> and/or sold themselves as such. Unlike the
> pharaohs, Mesopotamian kings were not considered
> gods which I thinks speaks to this.

I agree, but as I mentioned earlier, the DR may've been simply a genetic anomaly within an Egyptian Tribe, and/or they could've easily come from just about anywhere within 1,000 miles or more. (And were not necessarily Meso in origin, but this is also a definite possibility.)
>
> Narmer is depicted as a large imposing figure
> wearing the elongated white crown of upper Egypt:
>
>
>
> Bloodlines were obviously very important to AE
> nobility and again elongated skulls associated
> with royalty were common physically for nearly
> 2,000yrs. I do not think this a coincidence. As
> weird as elongated skulls may be, its is a real
> thing with a long and curious history spanning
> thousands of years and several cultures in the
> greater ancient Mediterranean world.

I agree, no coincidence. And they noticed that the ppl noticed the difference(ds) and exploited them to their advantage. (Reminds me of S. Connery in 'The Man Who Would Be King'....he portrayed himself as God, but this caught up w/ him in the end. Also, unrelated, but check out his little known movie, "The Hill" and early film for him, IMO, the plot was exc, some very good acting/scenes...and some not so good...but I still rate it highly.)
>
> Regardless, Mesopotamia was a land of merchants
> whose economy was powered by traveling far and
> wide for goods which was ultimately the
> relationship that was first struck long before the
> formation of the Dynastic state. To theorize, I
> suspect the people that became the Foreign Elites,
> the 1st pharaohs, were relatively small groups
> with a separatist bent motivated to take control
> of Egypt to command and exploit trade who
> basically set themselves as living "gods". I
> have to wonder if the ritual of burying boats was
> part of this forsaking of their nationality to
> live for good in Egypt. Maybe a sign of fealty.

I generally agree, but doubt the feality....they had to appear as Gods to the ppl at ALL times, (See above movie ref.)


Regards, W

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Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 8009 Thanos5150 01-Aug-15 02:50
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 1025 Notinham 01-Aug-15 14:23
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 1174 Graham Chase 02-Aug-15 19:59
Re: Ubaid onward 1071 Thunderbird 01-Aug-15 20:40
Re: Ubaid onward 1225 Thanos5150 02-Aug-15 04:37
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Re: Ubaid onward 1191 Thanos5150 02-Aug-15 18:18
Re: Ubaid onward 929 Notinham 02-Aug-15 19:15
Re: Vinca/Copper/Caucuses 949 Thunderbird 02-Aug-15 20:06
Re: Vinca/Copper/Caucuses 1010 Thanos5150 03-Aug-15 16:12
Re: Vinca/Copper/Caucuses 1018 Thunderbird 03-Aug-15 19:51
Re: Vinca/Copper/Caucuses 1087 Thanos5150 03-Aug-15 22:14
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 767 Manu 19-Nov-16 17:53
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 876 Thanos5150 19-Nov-16 18:35
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 944 Thanos5150 20-Nov-16 05:55
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 947 Manu 20-Nov-16 07:45
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 945 Thanos5150 20-Nov-16 22:27
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 837 Manu 21-Nov-16 00:06
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 919 Thanos5150 21-Nov-16 02:28
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 1076 Manu 21-Nov-16 06:18
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 1236 Thanos5150 22-Nov-16 18:49
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 865 Manu 22-Nov-16 19:07
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 724 Thanos5150 23-Nov-16 22:59
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 838 Manu 22-Nov-16 19:28
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 860 DScribr 23-Nov-16 02:24
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 765 Manu 22-Nov-16 19:40
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 773 Thanos5150 22-Nov-16 21:21
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 832 Manu 22-Nov-16 22:49
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 998 Thanos5150 23-Nov-16 02:31
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 829 Manu 23-Nov-16 04:25
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 922 Thanos5150 24-Nov-16 20:01
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 940 Warwick 24-Nov-16 20:18
Mesopotamia link to Optics 409 engbren 15-May-19 15:01
Re: Mesopotamia link to Optics 392 Thanos5150 15-May-19 19:40
Re: Mesopotamia link to Optics 392 engbren 16-May-19 07:52
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 758 DScribr 23-Nov-16 02:17
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 932 Thanos5150 23-Nov-16 03:49
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 788 DScribr 23-Nov-16 14:52
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 789 DScribr 23-Nov-16 02:11
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 817 DScribr 23-Nov-16 02:04
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 848 Thanos5150 23-Nov-16 04:29
Re: Mesopotamian Origins of Writing 729 DScribr 23-Nov-16 15:08
Re: Mesopotamian Origins of Writing 885 Thanos5150 24-Nov-16 05:32
Re: Mesopotamian Origins of Writing 953 Thanos5150 25-Nov-16 06:12
Re: Mesopotamian Origins of Writing 817 DScribr 25-Nov-16 17:40
Re: Mesopotamian Origins of Writing 679 DScribr 25-Nov-16 17:34
Re: Mesopotamian Origins of Writing 816 Thanos5150 25-Nov-16 21:17
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Re: The Ankh 1021 Thanos5150 26-Nov-16 18:15
Re: The Ankh 824 DScribr 26-Nov-16 18:42
Re: Mesopotamian Origins of Writing 756 SandyJesse 14-Dec-16 00:24
Re: Mesopotamian Origins of Writing 954 Thanos5150 15-Dec-16 18:16
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 662 Thanos5150 20-Mar-19 06:30
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 394 engbren 20-Mar-19 08:53
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 433 Corpuscles 20-Mar-19 11:55
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 408 Thanos5150 22-Mar-19 03:22
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 413 jamesglory 22-Mar-19 03:47
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 588 Thanos5150 22-Mar-19 05:27
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 444 jamesglory 25-Mar-19 01:34
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 409 eyeofhorus33 25-Mar-19 18:00
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 420 eyeofhorus33 25-Mar-19 18:16
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 392 Dr. Troglodyte 25-Mar-19 20:18
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 430 Thanos5150 25-Mar-19 20:35
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 464 Thanos5150 26-Mar-19 01:58
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 239 Thanos5150 21-Feb-20 16:12
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 258 waggy 21-Feb-20 21:16
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 301 Thanos5150 22-Feb-20 02:58
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Egyptian Serekh Palace Facade Building 170 Thanos5150 10-Nov-20 23:40
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