> DScribr Wrote:
> > On their writing methods: You had posted
> > pics showing the AE and Mesos writing methods,
> > systems) was very similar at their beginnings,
> > then they evolved separately into the 2 very
> > different writing methods we know today.
> > IMO, this seems to support the idea that they
> > once friends, trade partners etc....but then
> > parted ways soon after the use of pictograms
> > began, and this is much earlier than what most
> > the evidence supports.
> > Thoughts?
> What the evidence suggests to me is that these
> foreigners were limited in numbers,
> separate/separated from their governments, and
> stayed to evolve along with the local populations.
IMO, it's possible the foreigners were still in contact w/ their own Govt. as Emissaries, as trade partners, etc. at least for a time period, (a century?) and possibly for a time as oppressors. I agree, some did stay and mix, evolve, etc. w/ the locals.
(I was attempting to establish some sort of time-frame for their 'divorce' by using the beginninsg of their respective writing systems divergence.)
> Given their technical and cultural "superiority"
> the quickly were able to take control with little
> conflict. Part and parcel with this I would
> suggest is some of their imposing and strange
> physical appearance, being robust in stature with
> odd skulls. They may have been seen as divine
> and/or sold themselves as such. Unlike the
> pharaohs, Mesopotamian kings were not considered
> gods which I thinks speaks to this.
I agree, but as I mentioned earlier, the DR may've been simply a genetic anomaly within an Egyptian Tribe, and/or they could've easily come from just about anywhere within 1,000 miles or more. (And were not necessarily Meso in origin, but this is also a definite possibility.)
> Narmer is depicted as a large imposing figure
> wearing the elongated white crown of upper Egypt:
> Bloodlines were obviously very important to AE
> nobility and again elongated skulls associated
> with royalty were common physically for nearly
> 2,000yrs. I do not think this a coincidence. As
> weird as elongated skulls may be, its is a real
> thing with a long and curious history spanning
> thousands of years and several cultures in the
> greater ancient Mediterranean world.
I agree, no coincidence. And they noticed that the ppl noticed the difference(ds) and exploited them to their advantage. (Reminds me of S. Connery in 'The Man Who Would Be King'....he portrayed himself as God, but this caught up w/ him in the end. Also, unrelated, but check out his little known movie, "The Hill" and early film for him, IMO, the plot was exc, some very good acting/scenes...and some not so good...but I still rate it highly.)
> Regardless, Mesopotamia was a land of merchants
> whose economy was powered by traveling far and
> wide for goods which was ultimately the
> relationship that was first struck long before the
> formation of the Dynastic state. To theorize, I
> suspect the people that became the Foreign Elites,
> the 1st pharaohs, were relatively small groups
> with a separatist bent motivated to take control
> of Egypt to command and exploit trade who
> basically set themselves as living "gods". I
> have to wonder if the ritual of burying boats was
> part of this forsaking of their nationality to
> live for good in Egypt. Maybe a sign of fealty.
I generally agree, but doubt the feality....they had to appear as Gods to the ppl at ALL times, (See above movie ref.)
Campbell's Chamber roof blocks are Tura Limestone until proven otherwise.
THE Cartouche in Campbell's Chamber IS Authentic, as are ALL other RC's Glyphs, until proven otherwise.
"This Forgery 'theory' has more holes than a sieve basket."