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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
kees: I'd be interested to know, given that you responded to the item re. seeing no future for Christianity, how the book struck you, helped, hindered or whatever in focusing this issue more clearly for yourself.
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Yes, that seems to be the case, Steve. We hope to have news of a UK publisher shortly. sorry, Tom
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Hi Wireloop; If you watch my website www.tomharpur.com there'll be notes re. the place and time of meetings. The sessions will include some work around my book and the leader will be Rev.Larry Marshall who first introduced me to the writings of A.B.Kuhn and Gerald Massey. best, Tom...
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Hi Banah: I really think we're in agreement on this. Tom
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Hi Banah: There is no question but that translators have been grossly reponsible down the ages for widesprad misunderstanding and distortions of the biblical texts. For example, in the verses of Genesis C.1, which you quote, the word for God is in reality, as you probably know, Elohim; ie. a plural="gods" This word occurs hundreds of times in the text of the Hebrew Bible, together with
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Hi Wireloop: You are raising the single most urgent question people responding to my book, The Pagan Christ, are asking: where or how can we find a community of non-literalistic Christians who nevertheless believe passionately in the Holy Spirit, God, the Numinosum, or however one designates the ultimate Mystery of Being at the heart of the cosmos. I have designated this reality as experienced f
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Hi Jaimi2 Ancient egypt certainly is the source, as fr as we now know, of the sun disk behind the heads of gods. It eventually resulted in the halos of the saints, etc. I don't know, however, of specific evidence that it was a quartered sun. Tom...
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Hi Graham: Thanks for the welcome and for the opportunity to talk with so many informed and interesting people. Best, Tom
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Mick: That's not a bad idea. Perhaps next spring after the US edition has been out for a while. It was published here March 1. Tom
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Thanks Maria. Nice to hear a feminine voice of reason and research. I'm going to leave now for today. Hope to be back on Saturday as tomorrrow and Friday we'll be travelling. Singing off for now--best wishes to all. Tom...
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Thanks Mike: I'd like to fool around with some of those topics but really I'm disappointed. I thought more of you and your friends might have read the book or at least have taken in more its main thrust. I don't want to waste time going in circles just to tell you what you think you already know. I don't mean to be rude here at all. Just venting a little frustration. best always, Tom...
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Hi Maria: I started a reply but something went wrong. If I duplicate, please overlook. I'm glad you've read some of Kuhn. He's difficult but most rewarding! My book takes three deep authors--Higgins, Massey and Kuhn -- and then, with the addition of my own theologizing, make them intelligible to literate searching folk today. The response has been tremendous to date. Re. the Chosen people etc.
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Hi Mick: Sorry about that. It is hard to do business from an empty wagon! Hope you'll read it soon and then have a go at me. best Tom...
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Hi Kees: There certainly is at the heart of Egyptian religion the idea of the tension of apparent opposites that the terms CHRST and anti-CHRST might symbolize. You find it in the ongoing quarrel between Horus and Sut. It exactly parallels the later NT contest between Christ and Satan. Both conflicts reflect the fact that the cosmos can only exist through the tension of opposites which must one
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Thanks Steve: The "gods" Hermes and Thoth were both messengers associated with the bringing or communication of wisdom in their respective cultures. The hermetic connection with Christianity lies in its bearing within it (the hermetic Corpus of writings) the ancient wisdom of old Egypt as transmitted through Plato and other Greek thinkers. This as The Pagan Chroist tries to show had a
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Hi Kees: That's an interesting theory and probably makes a lot more sense than the "left behind" fundies do of The Book of Revelation. But, I doubt the author, whoever he was, had the ten nerve centres and seven chakras in mind all the same. The great problem with The Apocalypse--apart from the fact that it is so clearly based upon astrological/astronomical-type theologizing and is of a
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Hi Jim: Your message got a little garbled some way but I think I got the mainpoint and the answer is "no" Sorry about that, Tom...
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Hi Jaimi2: I believe the great difference between a spiritualized Christ of the "heart" and a literalized or euhemerized Jesus Christ of traditional Christianity is that the latter takes moral and spiritual responsibility out of the grasp of each one of us and gives it over to an institution or other external power group--yes, in a projection. The result, as 2000 years of history have
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
To both kees and Steve: Thanks. In any case, we live by hope! One of my hopes is that today we can get a little more into the meat of The Pagan Christ. There's plenty there to discuss. tom...
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Thanks Jaimi. See above for my response re. the belt of Orion.
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Hi Jaimi: Without taking time to look it up in Massey's Ancient Egypt the Light of the World, I can't say with precision his exact sources for positing that the belt stars were associated with Orion. But, from my reading of his sources in general--Zoroastrian, Sumerian, and Egyptian, --and G.Higgins in his Anacalypsis goes into this in great detail--the asssociation is extremely ancient and wid
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
This is Tom Harpur and I'm now back online, Wednesday afternoon. I see some comments have come in since signing off yesterday so I'll try to start there and see how we get on. Welcome to you all!
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
To Milo, Kees, Michael, Wireloop, Jaimi2 and all others, that's it for now. Be back tomorrow around 2p.m. EDT. Best Tom Harpur
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Hi Kees: Well, as you say, that's more questions at once than most people can handle! I'll try to answer re. re-incarnation only. I have problems with it because it doesn't deliver--to my mind--what it promises, ie. a way to make sense of the injustices in this world. Ie. next time around you could do better--the poor could do better--the blind, etc. Criminals will be made to pay for their wrong
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Hi Rob: There is a current fascination al la The Da Vinci Code, etc. to look for cabals and conspiracies and secret societies everyhwhere--hence The Church in general, Rome in particular make good hunting grounds. I don't deny there are secret groups within Roman Catholicism today and may have well been since the beginning. Most have no sinister overtones, in my view, knowing the Vatican fairly
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Hi Kees and welcome back. My research shows a common mythos--with what you call "star" ingredients underlying the Vedic, Buddhist, etc. traditions every bit as much as it does the three so-called monotheistic faiths. (Much Christianity for all practical purposes is a kind of tripartite polytheism). I hold that the same is true for ancient Mexican religion, for example, and other North
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Thanks, Wireloop. It adds to the discussion for sure.
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Hi Mick: Yes indeed. Bread, always a symbol in ancient religion of a number of things: ie. Bethlehem is the "house of Bread" --Anu in Egypt was the place of "multiplying bread"--Virgo who brings the Christ child, carries also in her arms a sheaf of wheat! Bread in sacraments=the energies of the divine made available for humankind. I have just written a book, The Spirituality
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Hi Wireloop. Yes, I agree. You reinforce my argument. Thanks, Tom...
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15 years ago
Tom Harpur
Hi Milo: Well, yes and no. Those who carried on with the mythological/Pagan view of the Christ were soon ousted or declared heretical. Marcion and others who were gnostics were among these. So too was Origen who, while not kicked out, was anathematized post mortem and all his books declared off-limits for the faithful. regards, Tom...
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