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6 years ago
Lothur
Don't hold your breath. Cap doesn't actually answer questions. He will divert, distract, and dissemble. Oh and defend his faith in government. But not answer.
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6 years ago
Lothur
Same could be said about people who believe government is telling the truth.
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6 years ago
Lothur
>>>Why would anyone ask "where's the money?" to NIST, who analyzed the causes of the initiation of the collapses of the towers? In what sense is that a technical question that one might expect to have answered? How about the "heckler" (in reality a planted staffer from Alex Jones) at the press conference following the Boston Marathon bombing who asked "Is this an
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6 years ago
Lothur
Sorry, I don't see your view that the questions posed regarding the anomalies of 9/11 are somehow illegitimate. What makes the questions illegitimate? Asking 'where did the money go?' is pretty straight forward. Why is that illegitimate? Where's the answer? Why hasn't it been forthcoming? Could it be that government, you know the group that classified any information regarding it, doesn't wa
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6 years ago
Lothur
You clearly have no clue what IT is about at all. I initially had no problem believing that some nut jobs flew planes into those buildings until the media and the government started covering up evidence and refusing to answer legitimate questions. Then came the 911 report and the NIST reports. That capped it. They are denying the public full disclosure and they are doing it for a reason beyond
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6 years ago
Lothur
I have to agree I'm more than a little tired of video myself on all fronts. That said, there is plenty of information in that video to follow up on. It does not rely solely on questionable video evidence. The video directly addresses the tangle of financial and insider connections and names specific people and corporations all of which can be researched through records. He makes an intriguing
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6 years ago
Lothur
So you choose to ignore the glaring gaps in the logic and data of the NIST. Good for you. I'm sorry you don't feel confident in your own deductive reasoning to question what the state tells you. My 'axe' didn't exist until the government started professing that hypothesis and theory as fact.
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6 years ago
Lothur
Oook..you stick to your programing. Just out of curiosity though...when, exactly, in a degree program do you suddenly become enlightened into the magic of deduction and logic? Is it sometime in your junior year? I hear that once you stop living on dorm food your brain actually starts functioning again. But that's just a rumor with no peer reviewed studies to substantiate it. I was hoping howev
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6 years ago
Lothur
I don't think he's afraid of the 1rst. I am beginning to think he's afraid of either losing his job or losing his blind faith in government benevolence. Or both.
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6 years ago
Lothur
Not in the least. The point is no one has to be a paid professional expert in a given field to see failures in logic and deduction regarding any subject. The NIST reports on WTC for example don't require an engineering degree to see the failures in their logic. Expert is not a title that make you automatically right.
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6 years ago
Lothur
The only thing I'm trying to prove here is that you have an opinion about what government should be allowed to do. Not about what they are necessarily doing I am not making a case in court. The rules of evidence are irrelevant to my query. And yet you refuse to answer. That's fine, your prerogative and all that...however don't pretend that it is me that is at fault here. I simply asked you quest
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6 years ago
Lothur
Just gotta insert some questions here. Where do you go for training in common sense and logical deduction exactly? Is there a degree program for cognitive ability I haven't heard about? And is there a government loan program available? I am not a trained,professional, driving expert, does that disqualify me from noticing the road signs? And I know I never got degree in chewing, should I give
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6 years ago
Lothur
Machine it is then. Since machines are incapable of any output or function without direct input. That answers that last question.
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6 years ago
Lothur
And I have said it is irrelevant to the question. This is an issue of principle..or lack of. Not a specific document. I do not care if it is from the FBI or a school lunch menu. Do you think it right? It's a simple question that any human can answer solely on their understanding and belief of what government is and should be. Are you human?
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6 years ago
Lothur
LOL I don't have to 'look' for evidence. They repeatedly put it out there for all who have eyes to see. As for distrusting government. I learned the hard way, long ago, trust is something that is earned not given. Anything else is naive at best and dangerous the rest of the time.
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6 years ago
Lothur
So what. I didn't ask about the document did I?
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6 years ago
Lothur
They used and/or presented a document that was wrong in their official report. Now why do you think that happened? A "conspiracy theorist' would say it was deliberate. Others would say it was an honest mistake. Either way it does not help inspire confidence in their report. Simple really. Unless you have a third reason the inclusion of a faulty diagram. Do you? A technical conclusion is
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6 years ago
Lothur
FYI.The flyer in question is issued by the government. The Bureau of Justice Assistance a subsidiary of the D.O.J. They have a web sight and everything..imagine that. But none of that is relevant to the question I have posed. So I will re state it. Do you think it is proper and right for any U.S. government agency to vilify, without evidence of a crime, any American citizen or group based simp
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6 years ago
Lothur
Well now that's the 64000 dollar question isn't it? Think of it this way. If they weren't hiding something then why use false information in their report? Or is it just another case of incompetence? And if they are that incompetent then should we trust what they say regardless? It doesn't work both ways Cap.
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6 years ago
Lothur
We are not talking about an official investigation we are talking about the language used in things like training manuals and circulars issued to local police. Language from official sources that demonizes American citizens for what they think or believe. You may think your position of uneducated (I don't know) neutrality somehow keeps you safe from a radically changing world. But ignoring the
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6 years ago
Lothur
Maybe I should say cowardice instead. Form an opinion and stand by it if you can. If the government had evidence of terrorism from domestic groups they would arrest them by law, if they choose not to they would be derelict in their duty and complicit in the groups activities. The fact the authorities have done nothing in regards to the vilified groups but slander them and train their officers t
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6 years ago
Lothur
I've been there too. And even if there isn't a hidden message in the art it is still creepy and in bad taste. The blue nag with the glowing eyes out front is very uninviting to say the least. The first thing I thought when I saw it was "welcome to hell muhahaha" If it wasn't for the bar that airport would be a very un-relaxing place to wait during a lay over.
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6 years ago
Lothur
I agree a conversation should be had in the public arena regarding warrants and their issuance. In my opinion ALL warrants should only be issued by elected authorized officials. It is the only path for accountability to the public. I do find it interesting that you have not commented regarding the government labeling ,sans any evidence, of citizens or groups of citizens simply because of what th
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6 years ago
Lothur
The difference I see here is one of individuals..no matter how misguided..and government official policy and practice. As a living person I retain the right to say anything I wish. I can call for revolution or conformity at my will. I can cast insults and warnings at any group I choose. As can you and everyone else. However government does not possess this right. And I would argue that behavi
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6 years ago
Lothur
Here's a thought... How about rebelling against a government that issues memo's villanizing and distorting the truth about a section of it's citizenry? What if it was 'your' section? Would you be motivated then? Or would you be complacent even as they hauled you away? And don't tell me that it is just speculation or hyperbole...it happened just a generation ago. And if history shows us anyth
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6 years ago
Lothur
What polar bears? They will likely starve or move father south as their traditional more sensitive food supply dies off from radiation poisoning. The whole north pacific eco-cycle is gonna pay the price. Personally I'm waiting for the debris field to come ashore.
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6 years ago
Lothur
And how long will that loveliness last if we all ignore the things that are going on around us? Fukushima, fiat currency inflation and likely collapse, corporate infiltration of governments world wide to name a few....these are not conspiracy theories...these are real events that loom over us right now. I bet an ostrich believes the hole his head is in is lovely too.
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6 years ago
Lothur
Fukushima has been the pink elephant in the room for two years now. The dangers it poses and the implications of its failure should be at the top of the list for concern for people on this planet. People look for disaster where none is proven to exist. EMP,asteroids, magic calendar dates.etc. And yet what nuclear power represents for mans continued existence is far more grave. People make whole
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