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5 years ago
Lothur
I agree. When the grievance is with the enforcement of a law and it is you that has been taken into court. You will find no fair trial. As the very court that sits in judgment of you is supposed to be sitting in judgment of the enforcement of that law as well. It rarely happens that the enforcement is found to be unlawful. The system does not like to judge itself. That leaves changing the prac
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5 years ago
Lothur
Why exactly is tax protest a conspiracy theory? While not all tax arguments are valid, there is clear and provable holes in the law. The fact that no modern court will entertain them, with an open mind, does not prove the argument invalid. It does show the courts are unwilling to take on the challenge of addressing what is, at it's core, a constitutional issue. The courts have abrogated thei
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5 years ago
Lothur
So case law only applies to what you deem relevant. And those judges, whose statements are clear, are somehow twisted because of the views of those sighting them. What a strange world you live in.
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5 years ago
Lothur
Also 'they' lose because no court..i.e. the same court that gets paid by the very system of revenue..will hear the arguments. Imagine that. 'They' also lose because they stand out amongst the sheep who are either unwilling or too uneducated to comprehend the fraud being perpetuated. It's easy to take down a lone animal..not so easy a herd. Again, this is not about the levying and payment of t
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5 years ago
Lothur
Where? You obviously can't answer that. So there is no point to your involvement in this conversation.
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5 years ago
Lothur
Your right. This is an issue of deception and fraud committed against the people. Not a tax issue. Taxes are the means by which government should be funded. However that is not what is happening today. Today government borrows exorbitant mounts of money from private banks without limit or checks and saddles the individual citizens with the burden for generations to come. Funny how companies that
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5 years ago
Lothur
No you didn't Cap. The Title 26 definition of 'Gross income' is not a legal definition of 'income'. Nor have you shown where in Title 26 it legally defines 'gain' in regards to the individual. The only way 'gain' can be applied to the individual is if they regarded as a corporation..as that is the only defined use of taxable gains in Title 26. So which is it? Are we being taxed as private in
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5 years ago
Lothur
Uhm..He was quoting case law. Are you saying those judges that made those rulings were tax protesters?
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5 years ago
Lothur
Thank you for posting. It is good to see someone else is familiar with the illusion that has become our tax structure. The key to all of this is whether we continue to see our labor,time and effort as valueless until such time as an employer agrees to pay us in the currency of the realm. The concept that I have 'gained' anything buy exchanging my skills and labor for currency is, at best ludi
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5 years ago
Lothur
The only way those legal arguments refuting the tax 'myths' hold water is if you accept the definition of "income" to mean currency received in exchange. Now please show me and the rest of the world where in Title 26 the legal definition of 'income' is defined. Please take your time. Title 26 is quite large.
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5 years ago
Lothur
I agree... the IRS code is Bulldust :) See, we agreed on something again. We might even be friends someday at this rate.
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5 years ago
Lothur
Even here in America we have forgotten..law is only enforceable with willing compliance or with the use of violence to secure unwilling compliance. There is no such thing as royal power or government power at all without our compliance.
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5 years ago
Lothur
Exactly how is having a nationality a right anyway? Of what benefit is it to the individual? Why is it that being in a certain place when your born matter to a government? Unless of course you are being claimed as property. What is the true purpose of forced 'citizenship' at birth? Why, as a living human being, do I need to BE from anywhere defined by arbitrary borders? And more significan
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5 years ago
Lothur
It's actually no more magic than the IRS code. It just has fewer wizards practicing it.
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5 years ago
Lothur
Actually I've never seen any proof of this. When direct references have been made to sections of the reports you never addressed them leading me to conclude you had not read it. If you have read it then you too know that no material from the impacted floors was used in the investigation. You also know that the report shows that the only way the NIST could get the fires hot enough to damage the
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5 years ago
Lothur
How exactly is that? Last time we spoke about this subject you clearly hadn't read the report and continued to behave with exactly the same obfuscation and avoidance you are displaying here. As far as I'm concerned your arguments always devolve to 'the authorities can't be wrong'. You refuse to address any evidence (or lack of) that does not support this view. You can hardly claim some twist
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5 years ago
Lothur
Still haven't actually read the report have you.
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5 years ago
Lothur
The standards are not mine they are the standards of good science. Your questions are moot. The fact is the NIST did not study debris from the floors hit buy the planes so they had no way to conclusively determine what happened. And that lack of conclusive evidence makes their report nothing more than a work of science fiction.
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6 years ago
Lothur
'Actual evidence from the affected floors' means .....just that.. Nothing more or less. (By the way they used none to spite admitting they could identify the placement of beams by their markings. Out of just over 200 pieces of the debris examined none were identified as being from the floors that initially failed) And forensic analysis is does not use assumption at all. In fact good forensic an
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6 years ago
Lothur
So you need a specialized degree to recognize bad logic and lack of evidence? Interesting view. Considering any technical degree requires a certain, rudimentary, capability to deduce and observe I find your assertion absurd. The day you, or anyone else, can show me where actual evidence from the affected floors was used in the creation of the report, and can prove that the conclusions given a
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6 years ago
Lothur
Impressive work. I wish I had that much time on my hands. I do find it amusing that you've gone to such great lengths to catalog these people simply based on their field of expertise as if that has a relevant bearing on the fundamental flaw of the NIST report. All of these people are certainly qualified to recognize that the report given to the public is in no way based in evidence and is fille
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6 years ago
Lothur
Amazingly enough.. improved hygiene, civic waste systems, food production and preservation have improved over the exact same period of time that that modern medical drugs have. The argument can be made that lives are longer in the more modern societies because of these factors and not medical drugs. Also consider mental illness rates are higher in technologically advanced cultures than they a
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6 years ago
Lothur
By thing of myth I mean it is a creation of mans mind and is created for the purpose of control and manipulation. And just as the old stories changed with the re-telling, so does our understanding of the mythology of what government is. More fascinating is how the myth of government grows within its own mind. And as it inflates its self image, it works very hard to influence our perception.
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6 years ago
Lothur
Government fear mongering is manipulation and control. Think of government as a paranoid Hydra with all its heads turning in different directions to peer into the shadows created by its own movements. If we are not dependent on, and afraid of, the monster then we might actually learn we don't really need it. The government Hydra is a thing of myth...it just doesn't want to accept that fact. So
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6 years ago
Lothur
Those 'low' EPA standards were only recently adopted , Jan 2011. And only after a report done four years before...not exactly fast on their feet. Before the 2011 reduction to 0.7milligrams per liter it was 0.7 to 1.2 before that it was 4.0 milligrams per liter. So clearly the dangers of fluoride are being recognized. Albeit slowly. Another thing to consider is not all fluoride is the same...
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6 years ago
Lothur
What I am saying is that fluoride, in its various compounds, are in all kinds of things above and beyond toothpaste and municipal water supplies and that it is bio-accumulative in our bones and teeth where it is then slowly leeched back into our systems. So the 'studies' done on toothpaste or water ingestion are singularly inadequate to address the over all effect and likely potential damage done
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6 years ago
Lothur
Perhaps you don't understand what bio-accumulative means. Just wondering.
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6 years ago
Lothur
And where do they discuss the affects of bio accumulated fluoride? It is in far more products than just water. Fluoride compounds are everywhere. In the early nineties there were just over 80 toxic chemicals already in an American infants bloodstream..fluoride was listed as one of them. Why was that? I mean if it's so good for you and all.
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6 years ago
Lothur
Who says they aren't affected?
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6 years ago
Lothur
So your saying a loon is calling other people ostriches. I guess not all birds are of a feather.
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