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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
Thanks for your response, Mark. In respect of wanting to know a little more about Queen Hatshepsut's 'divine birth' relief, depicted at Deir-el-Bahri, here: The "Nativity Scene" of Jesus' birth, as described in the Gospel according to Luke, also has its roots in much older, established Ancient Egyptian mythology. This is supported by actual temple reliefs and the scholarly opinion
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
Ray You wrote: QuoteWe believe in the virgin birth for theological reasons: with any other reasons we'd need a theological rewrite--and even more controversy. As things stand, it makes theological sense. emphasis mine for discussion I'm curious about your intended meaning here, Ray. (1) Do you mean it makes "theological sense" not to have to debate an issue because it woul
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
On balance of probability, it is much, much more likely that Jesus was fathered by a biological man than by a Divine creator. Virgin birth is a feature common to a wide range of religious traditions practiced by ancient cultures which flourished for over a thousand years before this one. Can you, or would you, dispute or deny that other historical figures such as the Babylonian god Ea whose
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
64. Thanks
Thanks for taking the time and effort to produce and share so generously your knowledge. I have read each of your guides and find them accessible and engaging. Thank you. Matt
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
Thanks for your response Mark. The "absolute equality of Mary to the apostles" is evident at the end of the Gospel of Mary itself. It's worth a read and one can only live in hope that a more complete copy of that text is discovered at some point in the future, as was the case when the cache of gnostic texts was unearthed at Nag Hammadi, complementing fragments of incomplete gospels.
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
Mark You might begin by reading the gnostic gospel of Mary Magdalene. Most scholars have agreed a composition date of the second century AD which makes it at least contemporaneous with some of the datings of the canonical gospels. Information about the codex and the text of the gospel in English can be found here: Magdalene is also referenced in the gnostic gospel of Philip as Jesus' &q
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
Pope Gregory - 591 AD - misinterpreted the account of the Mary whom he declared a prostitute, albeit a repentant on, stating: "It is clear, brothers, that the woman previously used the unguent to perfume her flesh in forbidden acts..." Moron. Papal misreading of the highest order. Deliberately discrediting the important role and place she evidently held in Jesus' affections, b
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
See your forty-nine minutes long video presentation on your nonsensical theory? I would rather chew glass than waste 49 minutes of my life on garbage.
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
You chose not to address what you perceive to be the different behaviours. When you say that you: Quote just spent my morning (1) attending Easter Service, (2) with Easter egg hunts for children and (3) an extensive brunch. (4) Christians at other churches would do similar things a secularist interprets this as: (1) people gathered to listen to stories and sing songs (2) children sociali
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
71. Erm ...
If you accept the conservative estimate that homo sapiens has walked the Earth for 100, 000 years at least then for 98, 000 of those years all humans were pagan in the Christian sense of the word (i.e. unchristian). Most humans were most definitely 'pagan', Ray. And some still are.
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
That was just rude, Ray. Susan asked how her interactions, her humanity, selfless behaviours are somehow different, if at all, to your so-called 'Christian way'. You might have afforded her the decency of a civil response. After all, though I consider religious belief to be the product of a mixture of conceit, naivety, ignorance and sheer foolishness, I am still capable of conducting civ
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
The narrative of Jesus in the NT is a re-working of the story of Joseph in the OT. Here are some obvious parallels, far too many for a person to claim 'coincidence': * Beloved of His father * Envied and hated without a cause * a root out of dry ground * he told that one day he would rule * accused of being a fantasist / daydreamer / delusional (choose most apt) * sent by the father to
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
... Or, if you claim to have done so, might I suggest you read it again, this time more slowly. Your rebuttal of Darwin, claiming: QuoteHe assumed that populations were stable even over long periods of time. is proven to be correct by the scientific research in the paper when they demonstrate how their analysis has revised the time frame from when the species diverged into the two species
Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
I was responding to a post made by Susan, who asked Ray a question. I have no idea whatsoever, poster Itatw70s, what you are talking about or to whom you are referring. I have not exchanged an opinion of any kind with you on this thread.
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
Hello Mark The idea of a living incarnation of a God who is killed and who rises again is not unique at all. An epithet of ancient Egyptian kings was 'The Living Horus' - a god incarnated in human form. The belief in Horus as the god resurrected at dawn, Re-Horakhty as the mid-day sun and Osiris as the 'dead' sun - symbolically, of course, once it had slipped beneath the horizon - is jus
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
Hi Susan I cannot and would not speak for Ray but as a fellow atheist or humanist, the only difference is the ascription of those behaviours to Jesus, the Christ. For me, the only difference between myself and the most pious theist is my belief in one less God. As crass as that might sound - and I am being sincere - it is the truth. Amen!
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
Ray I’m sure you’ll know that the Easter tradition you celebrate has its roots in a Saxon pagan holiday involving celebration of the arrival of Spring to a deity known as Eastra. The sacrificial element no doubt appealed to Christians who adopted it for their very own ‘sacrificial lamb’ You can read more here: Happy Eastra
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
The term ‘atheism’ formally entered the English language in the 17th century but examples I cited from Indian philosophical schools of thought dating back 1000 years earlier openly and completely rejected notions of a God. Likewise, Buddhism rejects the idea of a supreme deity. Those are most certainly not examples of agnosticism Ray
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
There is an abundance of evidence for the existence of philosophical atheism, Ray, which seems to have emerged and spread across Europe and the East in the fifth and sixth centuries. Indian Philosophy In the East, a contemplative life not centred on the idea of deities began in the sixth century BCE with the rise of Jainism, Buddhism, and various sects of Hinduism in India, and of Taoism i
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
Trust you. Perhaps you ought to read the actual scientific research findings before you offer your two cents. You know, the kind of science you demand in other threads. Loon.
Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
Perhaps you should read this research on peacocks from 2018: The authors state: QuoteHere, we report the first genome sequence and comparative analysis of peacock with the high quality genomes of chicken, turkey, duck, flycatcher and zebra finch. Genes involved in early developmental pathways including TGF-β, BMP, and Wnt signaling, which have been shown to be involved in feather patter
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
Robert in response to my explanation, you present this unsupported opinion: Quotethe peacock seems to be transitioning from birds that make their living flying - to a flightless bird Transitioning? Do you mean evolving? And for how many years have you studied the peacock as a species to reach your conclusion? Or is it just another unsubstantiated opinion you would like others to sw
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
Robert Acknowledging your error in respect of the peacock's ability to fly, you wrote: Quoteit seem (sic) some of the younger and healthier peacocks are able to fly short distances. So I probably should have said; “ … robbing the species of most of the benefits of flight.” There is no 'seems' about it. They can - and often do - fly. As for you limiting the damage by inventing the idea
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
You cite a page from your book in which you criticise Darwinian theory - indeed, going so far as to describe it as a 'Dead End' - by stating the following: QuoteAnd the peacock's tail is so large and cumbersome, robbing the species of flight. My issue with your problems with Darwinian theory is that your attempted rebuttal of his theory - such as in this example quoted above - is plainly wro
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
No. If our future behaves just as the past serves to demonstrate, the Jesus Christ as god-man you choose to worship will have been consigned to the graveyard of dead gods. It is only by the accident of your birth - a 20th century westerner, presumably Caucasian - that you are a Christian. Had you been born in Ancient Greece, you would have been a polytheist worshipping Zeus, Athena, Aphr
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
It is just that ... garbage. God Gamete theory ... how many different ways can you find to polish a turd? Stop clinging to nonsense simply because you have invested so much time developing it, Robert.
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." The case rests. :)
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1 year ago
eyeofhorus33
I think Sheldrake is completely mistaken in the last point you make, Ray. One need only visit churches which stand almost empty on Sundays, or sparsely populated by a predominantly aged congregation, to realise that there is no "post atheistic revival" of interest in God or spirituality here in the UK. QuoteThe number of people attending the Church of England’s Sunday services fel
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