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15 years ago
Timothy
Hey folks, I'm sure all of you have read this story.......right? Oh, right.....well, in case there are those who missed it on this side of the pond, this is an interesting column..... "Dr Kay is not the useful idiot the anti-war party claims By Melanie Phillips (Filed: 01/02/2004) Hardly had Lord Hutton finished summarising his report than the goalposts were promptly moved. Amon
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15 years ago
Timothy
Hi steve, "where is the report from Dr Kay about this site?" I'm looking for it, as far as I'm aware, the reports of the WMD related activities at the camp were unconfirmed. Tim
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15 years ago
Timothy
Hi Steve, "Saddam had this painting commissioned? Hmm. Is this a verifyable fact, or more of the same from you?" From the soldiers who found the painting, this is what they were told. I don't have proof of this, however. "In any case, how does this painted image (as tasteless as it is) tie him to the 911 atrocity? " It doesn't. The painting isn't proof of anything.
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15 years ago
Timothy
John, "The myth of NORAD's non-response on 9/11" Regards, Tim
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15 years ago
Timothy
Hi Steve, "this reference to Salman Pak has been used on this forum before. It is the result of intelligence from two Iraqi defectors. While I agree that such information may be of use, it is hardly concrete. " Did you read any of the links? It is not simply the result of two defectors. Not only that, but there have been documents found at Salman Pak and Baghdad confirming the pu
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15 years ago
Timothy
Hi Aarooga, "Tim this is yet another attempt by you to try and show the people of this MB that saddam was somehow complicit in 9/11 - and anoth time you have posted the same old picture." The picture is window dressing. The facts remain that Saddam had a terrorist training facility in Iraq that was used to train Iraqi and non-Iraqi Arabs to highjack airliners, thus the reason fo
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15 years ago
Timothy
Hi PR, "Saddam had no control over NORAD or US military planes and their lack of action." Prior to 9/11, the course of action for highjacjed planes was to appease the highjackers and try and do whatever possible to get the passengers back alive. Shooting down the plane was never an option. Not only that, but it also pretty much impossible to get clearance to use the US military to
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15 years ago
Timothy
Yes, crazy.........I mean, all those people in the US who STILL believe that CRAZINESS that Saddam was somehow involved with 9/11.......yep, all just a bunch of nutbags..... Except there's this.......... and this...... er, and this......... Which makes a lot connections to this....... BUT WAIT! Osama and Saddam would never cooperate! Uh-huh........ You guys can have your
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15 years ago
Timothy
Hi PR, "> > As an American, I didn't vote for the guy. I clearly believe > Al Gore or not, we would still be facing the same problems > today. It's hard to say. Gore wouldn't have been sitting in a classroom while the US burned around him on 9/11. " The US burned around him, Eh? Actually, it was only NY and Dc, but why let facts get in the way of a good rant...... &q
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15 years ago
Timothy
and nothing about Mars..........hey, whaddayagonnado? I suggest listening to this here- while reading this post........more about Ruben (may he rest in peace) later..... The State of the Union Address President George W. Bush January 20, 2004 THE PRESIDENT: Mr. Speaker, Vice President Cheney, Members of Congress, distinguished guests, and fellow citizens: America this evening is a Nation
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15 years ago
Timothy
"It's a bit 2 dimensional, imho, to say that it's specifially fundamentalist subjucation of women in non-western societies which creates terrorism, though!" See, that's what I was trying to get to. I truly think it is. In societies such as ancient Egypt, there was not this total oppression of women. In fact Isis was probably worshipped equally in terms of spritiual significance.The
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15 years ago
Timothy
Thus the battle we face. Ignorant men afraid of women competing in the free market. Male only/religious fundanmetilism/ socities? You get this. They make terrorists. Meanwhile, gender irrelevant socities do this... Seems pretty clear to me.... Tim
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15 years ago
Timothy
Hi e-rok, "Apologies to Tim if I hurt his feelings." None needed. I've got thick skin. If I couldn't take the insults, I wouldn't last very long around here. Funny that. Tim
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15 years ago
Timothy
Hi E-rok, "It is your deliberate mis-representation of the MD-500MD attack helicopter as a 'civilian' machine that is in question here, Tim." It is? Why do you think its deliberate? You've never seen one of these helicopters flying over highways to report traffic for commuters? I am not here to argue whether or not we knew what Saddam was planning to do with tem, but there is a H
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15 years ago
Timothy
Hi Antgbrooks, "I am curious to know where one would stop in a quest to rid the world of dictators. To my mind the Chinese have a case to answer with regard to Tibet and its people. However, I suspect that the playground policemen might stop short of regime removal in this case since we are talking about some real clout and power. " I agree the list of dictators who are pillaging
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15 years ago
Timothy
Hi Guy, Sorry for not answering your question from before, I must have missed it. "The question is when and why that decision was taken. WMD was the reason given, prompted by 9/11, I expect you would say. Well, 9/11 brought a sea change in many things, but was that the reason for toppling Sad-damned ?" WMD (again) were not the only reason given for toppling Saddam. In fact,
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15 years ago
Timothy
Hi E-rok, "I suppose from your perspective in cloud cuckoo land, a tank can also be used as an ambulance." No, I said that a helicopter can and is used for purposes other than military. A tank is primarily designed for military use. Sorry that confused you. "But that wouldn't support your desperate, futile, and rather amusing attempt to absolve the USA from it's arming o
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15 years ago
Timothy
In fact E-Rok, and whoever else wants to know- here- This is one of the best debunkings of the "US Armed Saddam" garbage floating around the net..... Tim
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15 years ago
Timothy
Here ya go E-rok- Would you like some more links saying essentially the same thing? Or would you like to continue in your fantasy that a tank and a helicopter are the same thing? Tank or Gun= Only used fer killin'. Helicopter= not only used fer killin'. Tim
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15 years ago
Timothy
Hi E-rok, Here's some of the equipment we sold to Iraq in the 1980's (note the circumstances of the sales): (31) Bell-214ST Helicopter 1985 1987-88 (31) Originally part of order for 45 for civilian use but taken over by Air Force 30 Hughes-300/TH-55 Light helicopter 1983 1984 (30) Officially bought for civilian use, but taken over by Air Force; 300C version 30 MD-500MD Defender Light he
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15 years ago
Timothy
E-Rok, Answer me this- Is a helicopter a weapon? Did the helicopters you mentioned come equipped with .50 caliber mounted cannons? Did they come with any weapons at all? Did you know that the same model helicopters are used for hospitals as well? Of course you did, you just wanted to call me names. Awww, you're so sweet. Tim
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15 years ago
Timothy
Hi Steve, "how can a government who actively supported Saddam in the war with Iran, not be as culpable as any of the others on your list?" Are you trying to say the US is just as bad as Saddam? Do I have to explain the whole "cold war" thingy again? I didn't think so. "I was not 'for a war on Saddam'." Then you were for appeasing a man who was continuin
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15 years ago
Timothy
Hi Steve, "the USG were as culpable as any of the weapons suppliers at that time. " I disagree entirely. France sold them a nuclear reactor for godsakes. Russia was selling them weapons right up until Saddam went looking for a rathole to crawl in to. "The simple fact that they actively dealt with Saddam makes them as bad as the others you quote." Again, I disagree.
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15 years ago
Timothy
Y'all might want to read this......... Tim
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15 years ago
Timothy
Doug, "support for the US position on Israel and Palestine, even rights over Iraq's oil" You have got to be kidding me. If you actually believe this, I have some ocean front property in Las Vegas to sell you if interested....... Tim
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15 years ago
Timothy
Hi Steve, "Did I say that the US supplied Saddam?" You asked me to remind you who did, and so I did so. "was Bush suggesting that the use of WMD's wasn't imminent? What was that imminent non existant threat that his ally Mr Blair kept harping on about again?" You missed my point completely. I stated and also quoted Bush as stating that waiting for proof of Saddam b
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15 years ago
Timothy
Hi Steve, "did Clinton actually lead his country and the UK into the recent invasion of Iraq?" No, he just had them bomb Saddam relentlessly, in hopes that eventually he would topple and we could clean up the mess. Needless to say, this didn't happen. "This 'WMD' discovery was even downgraded in importance by the US military, as old and dating back to the Iran/Iraq war.
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15 years ago
Timothy
So what? Bush was trying to enforce this law passed by Clinton and everyone gets all excited........ Yawn...................Clinton Lied! People Died! Homework? Anyone? Tim
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15 years ago
Timothy
You guys are funny....... "Bah. Who cares if its just a few dozen mortar shells filled with a biological nerve agent, it's not like these are WMD's or anything. I mean, uh, Bush Lied!!" What's even funnier is that you think they are done looking. I'm sure I don't need to remind anyone that about six months ago they uncovered a huge cache of similar weapons buried under an airport
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15 years ago
Timothy
Hi Bent, "They are still lawyers. " So is my mom. Are you saying all lawyers are of questionable integrity? Careful now.....there is a famous lawyer line that goes like this "everyone hates lawyers...until they need one...." "Does that mean I am not allowed to draw on my own personal experiences and history when I am discussing with you, Tim?" Not at all.
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