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1 year ago
AndyBlackard
Thanks Jonny. Fascinating.
Forum: History
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
It is long overdue.
Forum: Misc.
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
Thanks for the post. Well not ALL of them were granaries. But not ALL of them were temples and I think many were granaries and other rooms for trade and ceremony. "Where is the grain?" Consider, that there are granaries in Egypt 5,000 years younger than Gobekli Tepe with little or no residue of grain left in them. Absence of evidence... If you have studied this, what are the
Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
Yes, you are right. This is what I originally meant. I mostly copy and pasted my notes from my EverNote file into GHMB so my posts were originally notes to self a month ago and maybe not so clear. I only posted it to GHMB as and afterthought after the recent Natufian discussion because it seemed the two linked. But complexes is right. Tents became circular mudbrick huts. Mudbrick huts beca
Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
Thanks for the reply. There is so much terse information in those posts it may be unclear. Here are the facts as I found them: - In the neolithic, based on genetic data, central Anatolian wheat migrated down into Syria where it was enhanced for larger grains - Neolithic agriculture spread into Europe in the neolithic revolution based on human genetics, grain genetics, ceramics and the spread
Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
Some food for thought: Since this was so long ago and there are so few potential contemporary parallels, it may be impossible to prove anything with structural archaeology. So we may find more clues in sociology than in archaeology. The site seems to be almost sterile. Perhaps archaeology of human settlements, in contrast to archaeology of human bone remains, cannot reach back this far and
Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
Why would the builders go the the effort to decorate their public works? I suppose for the same reason why later builders would decorate a simple water reservoir such as Chand Baori - aesthetics. Grain was produced into various food products such as gruel, bread and beer. There is evidence that the earlier Natufians brewed beer and the troughs that you refer to could possibly be related
Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
gulsbo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So why these lagre, heavy stones in the grain > storage? > Did they have iron to carve The stone? What do The > figures mean? This happened long before the iron age so they must have used stone, antler or obsidian tools. But the how remains a mystery. My timeline indicates that this is after the exti
Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
I googled your post and the next few sentences suggest that this is evidence of a back-migration of Anatolian farmers into the Levant and North Africa, not the reverse. The Zagros Mountains stretch from Iran, across northern Iraq and southwest Turkey. Natufians were strongly genetically differentiated[32] from Neolithic Iranian farmers from the Zagros Mountains, who were a mix of Basal Euras
Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
Several phases of human civilization surround the appearance of Golbekli Tepe in south-central Anatolia (Turkey) spanning the Pre-Pottery Neolithic A (PPNA) and Pre-Pottery Neolithic B (PPNB) at this site. [5,12] Paleolithic – before 10,000 BCE – nomadic hunter-gathers of the Pleistocene (Ice Age) Epipaleolithic – Natufian Culture ca. 10,000-8300 BCE – sedentary hunter-gatherers Pre-Pottery
Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
20 kya possible pre-Natufian huts at Kharaneh IV, east Jordan 18 kya Ice Age Maximum 18 kya European humans confined to 3 refuges: Iberian, Italian and Balkan 15 kya evidence of Natufian funeral rites at Haifa, Israel 15 kya a largely homogeneous set of hunter-gatherers became dominant in most of Europe 14.5 kya start of Younger Dryas warm period starts 14.4 kya evidence of Natufian mortars
Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
Gobekli Tepe has been a fascinating mystery. Recently I did a deep dive into the Natufian culture of the epipaleolithic era in the Levant which lead up to the neolithic era. The Natufian culture bloomed after the ice age lead to climatic conditions idea for harvesting wild grains in the Levant. But then they winked out just as suddenly when the climate changed again. So I was curious as t
Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
Hello Simon. It appears that DNA data would not support a mother civilization concept. The evidence of the largest wholesale human migrations indicated by DNA appear to go back into the neolithic or even mesolithic before there were any civilizations. In Eurasia, pretty much every genetic population traces back to ice age refuges in Europe, central Asia or directly from Africa. The latest
Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
Hello my friend. Good to hear from you. Do you have any other archeological data points on the Natufians that I missed? I have been doing a deep dive on the bronze age collapse and am starting to look at the earlier history in the Levant.
Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
Hi Susan. There is documented evidence of the Natufians. Unfortunately, the work of British archaeologist Dorothy Garrod seems to be sadly overlooked.
Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
Thanks for posting. This is fascinating. This adds a new data point to my notes on the Natufian culture. Here is a section of the Natufian timeline putting your information into context. Thanks! 10.2 kya end of Natufian culture 12-11kya first settlement of Jericho, Israel by Natufians 12.0 kya Natufian Nahal Ein Gev II site in the Jordan Valley, Israel 13.0 kya start of Younger Dryas cold
Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
I think that I read somewhere long ago that the "handbags" were pouches used for sewing grain by hand.
Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
cladking Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They've essentially looked in every museum and > found no technology and thereby deduced that there > was no technology. More of your rubbish! One of the favorite books in my collection is "The Mechanical Technology of Greek and Roman Antiquity" (1963) The Greeks and Romans documented how the
Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
Chefjhutch Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So, every year my for my birthday my father would > buy me 2 books on ancient Egypt or another > civilization. With that said I'm a huge Hancock > fan and advocate. My theory is maybe the great > pyramid is anot her case of being far older than > we were always taught. I have a theory that this &
Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
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Forum: Mysteries
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
I long for the day when Trump is tarred and feathered, arrested, crated and shipped to Moscow marked "do not return".
Forum: Global Village
1 year ago
AndyBlackard
I just happened to log on and noticed this thread, Susan. This is fascinating. I thought that Thera and its population was destroyed in the eruption c1628 bce. Or, is this another case of the Greeks referring to a population separate from the city for which they were named? There is another case that I ran across of a reference to the Athenians as a people before the city of Athens existed. S
Forum: History
2 years ago
AndyBlackard
Looks like he hasn't changed much. Former Wharton Professor: 'Trump Was the Dumbest G*ddamn Student I Ever Had'
Forum: Global Village
2 years ago
AndyBlackard
Is it possible to add a means to vote posts up or down on the forum so that people can voice their opinion on posts from the political trolls without inviting them into a slander/propaganda tirade?
Forum: Misc.
2 years ago
AndyBlackard
"Some employees at Fox News were left embarrassed and humiliated by their network's coverage of the latest revelations in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian election meddling..." "I'm watching now and screaming," one Fox News personality said in a text message to CNN as the person watched their network's coverage. "I want to quit." The
Forum: Global Village
2 years ago
AndyBlackard
We think in base 10 based on ancient Indian math. However, the Sumerians thought in base 60 math. Why 60? Perhaps it was an ancient manual commercial counting system based on 3 bone segments per digit and twenty fingers and toes. 3*20=60 Next, how many base 60 counts in a year? 6 leading to 360 based on finger counting plus a few extra throw away days. A year is a cycle, so perhaps all circl
Forum: Mysteries
2 years ago
AndyBlackard
Or, does the grammar match the veracity of the OP?
Forum: Global Village
2 years ago
AndyBlackard
Watched it. Pure idiocy.
Forum: Global Village
2 years ago
AndyBlackard
I'm afraid that there is something missing from your analysis. To reply in the manner that you phrased the question, "RNA wrote the Code." RNA-based life existed long before the evolution of DNA. DNA probably began as a means to store the "code" of RNA in a manner suitable for long-term storage and replication. So, to follow that analogy further, DNA is the RAM and RNA is t
Forum: Author of the Month
2 years ago
AndyBlackard
"You can't fix stupid." I think you've proved that much convincingly.
Forum: Global Village
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