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3 years ago
Martin Stower
Scott Creighton Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It does nothing of the sort. Khufu is known (from > the Inventory Stele) to have been making repairs > to a number of monuments at Giza, including the > Sphinx. You really have internalised the fringe trope of babbling utter drivel about the Inventory Stele, haven’t you, Creighton? Supposing we
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4 years ago
Martin Stower
Thunderbird Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Inscriptions > > The Inventory Stele, mentioned earlier, was > supposedly written by the priests of the cult of > Khufu during the 26th dynasty to praise the deeds > of the ancient king. However, it makes no claim > whatsoever that Khufu built the Great Pyramid. . . . Oh, really? So pres
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4 years ago
Martin Stower
cladking Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Petrie is the source of much of what is wrong with > Egyptology. He designed it around 19th century > science and then it was never updated to 20th > century science. Now it's two centuries behind. > He believed the same nonsense that's believed > today even though he was not the first to assume
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4 years ago
Martin Stower
Epistemology 101, Logic 101 and try getting over the standard-issue Hawass fixation. Your notion of the Schoch episode would also bear updating. We are well past the stage (if ever there was one) at which it could pass as a simple fable of ‘hard’ science versus orthodox dogma. John Anthony West took a more nuanced view from the outset, as evidenced by his raising the question “How ‘hard’ is
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4 years ago
Martin Stower
Sirius7237 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The part that sticks out for me then and now is > that the sphinx would appear to have already been > standing in Khufu's time which would throw a > another crink into the idea that Khafre was > responsible and the whole foundation of the theory > of a linear progression from father to son in >
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5 years ago
Martin Stower
Histplorer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi Dr. Troglodyte, Thanks for bringing this up. > Surely the discovery at Wadi-aljarf is an > impressive one. Although I refrain from calling it > a definite evidence that Khufu built the GP as you > have also included in your post that: > ".... were probably used for the external > casin
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5 years ago
Martin Stower
Thunderbird Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But NOT** that damned Inventory Stela! ! > > Can't have Khufu repairing the Sphinx headress > from Lightning strike or building other > Projects on the Plateau while the Mountain of ISIS > is already there. > > Then again. ..it changes to the Western Mountain > of Hathor....and the
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7 years ago
Martin Stower
Scott Creighton wrote: > MS: Creighton has other ideas. So certain is he that > Hill was following a rigidly prescriptive rule invented by > himself .... > > SC: No--it is actually there to see by anyone who cares to have > a close look at Hill's drawings. Creighton, The non sequitur has been explained to you. Are you really this ignorant of elementary logic?
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7 years ago
Martin Stower
There are two sets of drawings: the ones made up to 19 May, when there was a formal attestation of their correctness by multiple witnesses, and the ones made after than date in Campbell’s Chamber, which was not opened until 27 May. The drawings of inscriptions in Campbells Chamber were made on 30 May: this is noted in Vyse’s manuscript journal: “Mr Hill was in Campbell’s Chamber copying Hieglyph
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8 years ago
Martin Stower
This (site of Chris Tedder) provides an illustration with transcription. You need to look at the right-hand register. M.
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8 years ago
Martin Stower
On the coffin (not sarcophagus), these posts are relevant: http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,301606,301712 http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,29533,29562 Also here: http://www.hallofmaat.com/read.php?6,526490,526490 In summary, the coffin is not Old Kingdom but does date from (later) ancient Egyptian times and would seem, therefore, to be a product of a later resto
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9 years ago
Martin Stower
Thunderbird wrote: > Nejc wrote: > > > This is funny... no histerical reaction from the > > "experts"...??? > > You were expecting hysterical laughter, perhaps? > > Sixteen years on, Don Barone quotes Jochmans, whose slapdash > treatment of the question offended even Sitchin (by failing to > credit him): > > M.....Moriarty? :) Try the
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11 years ago
Martin Stower
Scott Creighton wrote: > > SC: We also know from the Inventory Stele that Khufu > > (aka Raufu) made repairs to the Sphinx and to ther structures > > at Giza. Upon inspection of the Sphinx, Dr Hawass did indeed > > uncover ancient repair work. This means, of course, that we > > also have the Sphinx existing in Khufu's time as well as the > > causeway and that
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11 years ago
Martin Stower
Scott Creighton wrote: > SC: We also know from the Inventory Stele that Khufu > (aka Raufu) made repairs to the Sphinx and to ther structures > at Giza. Upon inspection of the Sphinx, Dr Hawass did indeed > uncover ancient repair work. This means, of course, that we > also have the Sphinx existing in Khufu's time as well as the > causeway and that these structures were alread
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11 years ago
Martin Stower
Audrey wrote: > [. . .] This glyph in Vyse's cartouche........ > looks like dashes to me. I couldn't believe it would be > considered a sieve because the lines don't reach to the edge of > the circle. The (obsolete) notion that this character depicts a sieve goes back to Samuel Birch and Birch himself identified this specific instance as a sieve—so what’s your problem? This is curs
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15 years ago
Martin Stower
Raja wrote: > Hi Martin, > > First of all, I'm relying on the Cayce readings, and they > currently don't match with consclusions drawn from so called > evidence by experts about Giza. > > Regardless of everything presented, I'm still with Cayce. Now that is a very significant admission, is it not? You believe Cayce despite the evidence. So much for what Tom Herbert sai
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15 years ago
Martin Stower
Raja wrote: > Martin Stower wrote: > > > You referred to the Inventory Stela. > > Actually, I was reffering to the graffiti in Campbell's > Chamber. I refer to your post here. QuoteMaybe, I don't know about this being a forgery, so can't comment on that, maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. Even if it is Khufu's handwriting, that in itself doesn't prove he built the G.P. and th
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15 years ago
Martin Stower
Raja wrote: > Hi Martin, > > That was not what I was referring to, but can you show a full > translation (+ reference, please), of what's on the inventory > stela? You referred to the Inventory Stela. The Inventory Stela is the one I’m talking about. Your failure to recognise the partial text I quoted (in translation) - or the verbatim hieroglyphic phrase - tends to confirm my
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15 years ago
Martin Stower
Raja wrote: > Maybe, I don't know about this being a forgery, so can't > comment on that, maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. Even if it is > Khufu's handwriting, that in itself doesn't prove he built the > G.P. and then there is the inventory stela. You mean the one which states, ‘Live Khufu, the Horus, Medjedu, given life. He built his pyramid next to the temple of this goddess and he
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16 years ago
Martin Stower
Michael Hayes wrote: > Martin quote: > > 'Khufu was remembered to the end of the Old Kingdom and beyond. > Titles indicate that various people held offices in his pyramid > complex well beyond his reign. > > The funerary cult of Khufu (and the other Giza pharaohs) was > revived in Saite times. It was centred in the Isis temple near > the GP.' > > Thanks Martin
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16 years ago
Martin Stower
shitijchandra wrote: > <The temples are not just near the pyramids: they stand in a > systematic relation to them - and the inscriptions frequently > mention the pyramid towns of the pyramids, i.e. they talk about > a whole complex, centered on a pyramid, named for a specific > pharaoh.> > > This does not say that the three Great pyramids were built at > the same t
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16 years ago
Martin Stower
shitijchandra wrote: > Regarding your first point (sitchin), just because he > doesn’t accept traditional rendering of ancient scripts, > doesn’t make him any less of a scholar. I've been waiting ages for someone to say this: that Sitchin is not, you know, incompetent; it's just that he has a brilliant, alternative take on the languages in which he claims expertise. So, please, point
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16 years ago
Martin Stower
shitijchandra wrote: > Although the theory of Graham Hancock regarding the three > pyramids of Giza and Sphinx correlating them with the > constellation of Orion and Leo to the era of 10,500 B.C. is > fascinating and quite believable, I am really disappointed that > he has changed his views regarding the timing and builders of > the three unique pyramids, attributing them to Kh
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19 years ago
Martin Stower
DPCrisp wrote: > > Aah, that's what I like to see: a proper explanation, a > reasoned response. Thanx, Martin. > > If Khufu's names fit right in with the development of king > names and do not represent a discontinuity or beginning of a > trend, then that's the answer to my question. > > If I read you right and we have to take the Inventory Stela > in the Isis Tem
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19 years ago
Martin Stower
Martin Stower wrote: > > DPCrisp wrote: > > > > Extracted from another thread: > > > > > > Is it true that Khufu directly claims only to have made some > > repairs to the GP and built some or all of the surrounding > > complex? > > No. > > What you may be doing here is muddling some claims > made about the Inventory Stela. >
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19 years ago
Martin Stower
DPCrisp wrote: > > Extracted from another thread: > > > Is it true that Khufu directly claims only to have made some > repairs to the GP and built some or all of the surrounding > complex? No. What you may be doing here is muddling some claims made about the Inventory Stela. The inscription on this stela claims to report events of Khufu's realm. However, stylistically
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19 years ago
Martin Stower
<a href="mailto:&#106;&#101;&#102;&#102;&#64;&#112;&#104;&#97;&#110;&#97;&#116;&#105;&#107;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;?subject=Re: More Ortho tricks">Phanatik</a> wrote: > > So, you trust Pliny and Strabo when it suits you, but ignore > the Inventory Stela when it doesn't. Oh, sure. You'll find me `ig
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19 years ago
Martin Stower
The classic titulary hadn't been put together in the Old Kingdom. (Don't you know even that?) What's interesting is that in Old Kingdom inscriptions you can see the components of the titulary coming together, for example the introduction of the Son of Re title by Khufu's successors. For all of Khufu's names together, try the Wadi Maghara tablet. A late example of the Horus name used in conjun
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20 years ago
Martin Stower
<a href="mailto:&#109;&#115;&#116;&#111;&#119;&#101;&#114;&#64;&#110;&#101;&#116;&#99;&#111;&#109;&#117;&#107;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#46;&#117;&#107;?subject=Re: Khufu and the Sphinx">Martin Stower</a> wrote: > > <a > href="mailto:&#100;&#97;&#118;&#105;&#1
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20 years ago
Martin Stower
<a href="mailto:&#100;&#97;&#118;&#105;&#100;&#112;&#98;&#52;&#64;&#97;&#111;&#108;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;?subject=Re: Khufu and the Sphinx">David Billington</a> wrote: > > Peter, > > >>if it was copied from an earlier inscription, you would > expect to see grammar, glyphs and religious sig
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