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7 years ago
Milo
> In response to > my opposition to doomsayers, I've encountered everything under > the sun mentioned from the Great Garbage Patch to the rapid > advance of technology to eating meat to racial or economic > justice to declining morals. This can't be helped -- these are > people's passions, and they define their worldview, which > colors how they view and frame every issue in
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7 years ago
Milo
Justin, A Wall Street insider, with a double major, says there's a financial and social calamity coming to our planet. What would you say to this doomsayer? Here's a summary of his biography: Michael Krieger was educated at Duke University in 2000, with a double major in Economics and Spanish. Upon graduation, he took a job at Lehman Brothers and worked with an Oil analyst in the Equity Rese
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7 years ago
Milo
Dr. Lew Graham wrote: > This strange notion goes back quite a long way. Indeed, the > disease model of behavior has broadly prevailed since Sigmund > Freud. It asserts that behavior is a symptomatic expression of > underlying pathology (neurosis, etc.). The disease model was > undercut by Watson and Skinner per your YouTube link. > > So although research undercut
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7 years ago
Milo
Aine, There are 40 words in Ray's post. Which word are you referring to?
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7 years ago
Milo
Dr. Lew Graham wrote: > Aloha Rob, > > Dr. Ray posted a fantastic TED video that touches on 3 of the > points that were unclear to you. See it at: > > > > I type with one-finger and am physically constrained in > attempting to "expand" on the previous comments. And I'm quite > happy that we both welcome this nascent Age of the Sun with &g
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7 years ago
Milo
Hi Lew, Would you please care to elaborate on "disease model behaviour"? I 'Googled' the term (using both spellings of behaviour), but the search produced little information. Having never heard of this term, I couldn't really comment on your post. Thanks in advance.
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7 years ago
Milo
With $89 trillion debt orbiting the planet and a fiat money system, it would be foolish to be complacent.
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7 years ago
Milo
Dr. Lew Graham wrote: > Aloha Rob, > > This discussion quickly became politicized, which is unhelpful > IMO because such complex inductive arguments based on > interpretive inference are never over. If you doubt this, take > an hour and scan the GHMB threads for February 2013. > > I genuinely respect your sincerity and desire to make a > difference by prov
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7 years ago
Milo
Aine wrote: > Milo wrote: > > > carolb wrote: > > > > > Aine wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rob, the reason for the rise in apocalyptic thinking in > the > > > US > > > > is due to the rise of religious fundamentalism. Things > are > > > > tough, yes, but hey, this is America, th
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7 years ago
Milo
Please see the reply I gave here:
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7 years ago
Milo
endofworldbook wrote: > Milo wrote: > > > I disagree. Societies can change otherwise we wouldn't have > > abolished black slavery, etc., and when bad things do happen > we > > have a legal system to bring those responsible to book when > > they break the law, and if new laws need to made to make > > society better, there are processes for that also. >
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7 years ago
Milo
Aine wrote: > Milo wrote: > > > > It's not always a case of "hundreds of years ago" though. I > > cited as recently as 2008, but if there is no change then > there > > will be doom, gloom, recession, depression and disaster, and > > then don't whinge and whine about the doomsayers if you don't > > want to change anything. > > But is it
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7 years ago
Milo
carolb wrote: > Milo wrote: > > > carolb wrote: > > > > > If not 'deluded', what would you consider a better word to > > > describe those who fell for the December 21, 2012 > > end-of-world > > > scenario? > > > > > > I'm referring to those who believed, despite the complete > > > absence of evidence, that a rogue
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7 years ago
Milo
carolb wrote: > Aine wrote: > > > > > > Rob, the reason for the rise in apocalyptic thinking in the > US > > is due to the rise of religious fundamentalism. Things are > > tough, yes, but hey, this is America, the land of opportunity > > where all things are possible. > > > > Not to mention the dumbing down of education, which has >
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7 years ago
Milo
Aine wrote: > Milo wrote: > > > endofworldbook wrote: > > > > > Milo wrote: > > > > > > > I don't think you'll ever succeed as long as there is > gross > > > > inequality and unfairness in society that allows for > spaces > > > in > > > > which these doomsday cults can survive. It's a bit like > > >
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7 years ago
Milo
endofworldbook wrote: > Milo wrote: > > > I don't think you'll ever succeed as long as there is gross > > inequality and unfairness in society that allows for spaces > in > > which these doomsday cults can survive. It's a bit like > > chipping away at a cliff face with a toothpick. > > Rob, > > I think you need to be reminded (or told, if you've ne
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7 years ago
Milo
endofworldbook wrote: > Milo wrote: > > > I'm saying that the truth is more complex than you are > > presenting because you don't appear to be addressing the > issues > > that cause societies to collapse, such as what's happened wit > > Greece, for example. You come across as being someone who's > > complacent if you believe economic doom and disaster coul
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7 years ago
Milo
endofworldbook wrote: > Milo wrote: > > > I'm not saying that alienation from society is the only cause > > for end of world feelings - there are obviously a plethora of > > causes, but doom-saying is sometimes a necessary function in > > order to avoid disasters and doom. In this case, warnings act > > as an alarm that something is not right and shou
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7 years ago
Milo
endofworldbook wrote: > Milo, > > As I've said a previous reply to you, of course the > psychological aspects have to be included. That's the whole > point -- why do people fall for this stuff in the first place, > and how can that be changed? And the truth is more complex > than you appear willing to admit. Not everyone who believes in > this stuff is depressed or go
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7 years ago
Milo
endofworldbook wrote: > Milo wrote: > > > endofworldbook wrote: > > > > > Rob, > > > > > > Time and time again you appear willing to dismiss the > harmful > > > effects of doomsayers in society. I'll be the first to > admit > > > that for many of these victims of doomsayers' claims, there > > may > > > alread
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7 years ago
Milo
endofworldbook wrote: > Rob, > > Time and time again you appear willing to dismiss the harmful > effects of doomsayers in society. I'll be the first to admit > that for many of these victims of doomsayers' claims, there may > already be problems beneath the surface. The apocalyptic > proclamations then may just be the straw that broke the camel's > back, and sent them
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7 years ago
Milo
Aine wrote: > Milo wrote: > > > > Not all who fall for these beliefs can be psychoanalyzed the > > > way you are attempting. > > Wanna bet? Aine, I did not write that, Justin (endofworldbook) did, so please take that up with him! > > > Some of them actually give up good > > > opportunities based on the idea that the world's coming to an >
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7 years ago
Milo
Aine wrote: > Milo wrote: > > > Aine wrote: > > > > > Milo wrote: > > > > > > > Aine wrote: > > > > > > > > > Rob, that's not what the lyrics you posted are about. > > I'm > > > not > > > > a > > > > > mind reader, sorry. > > > > > > > > The lyrics I p
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7 years ago
Milo
endofworldbook wrote: > Milo wrote: > > > The reasons you don't see higher instances of apocalyptic > > thinking in places like Greece is because in places such as > > Greece, it's already happened. The world as they knew it has > > already come to an end. This hasn't happened in most of the > > rest of Europe and the US, yet, but it could easily happen, >
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7 years ago
Milo
Aine wrote: > Milo wrote: > > > Aine wrote: > > > > > Rob, that's not what the lyrics you posted are about. I'm > not > > a > > > mind reader, sorry. > > > > The lyrics I posted are about feelings of the loss of love > and > > how that leads to further feelings that the world is ending. > > Yes, in some case
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7 years ago
Milo
endofworldbook wrote: > Milo, > > I don't see why you take such an issue with my taking the > predictions of people like Harold Camping or Patrick Geryl and > referring to them as delusions. They really are deluding > people. Would you prefer that I legitimize their claims with > another term? I could call them prophecies or visions or > spiritual beliefs --
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7 years ago
Milo
Aine wrote: > Rob, that's not what the lyrics you posted are about. I'm not a > mind reader, sorry. The lyrics I posted are about feelings of the loss of love and how that leads to further feelings that the world is ending. Yes, in some cases it's possible to be in that situation and then move on but for many its not so simple.
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7 years ago
Milo
carolb wrote: > If not 'deluded', what would you consider a better word to > describe those who fell for the December 21, 2012 end-of-world > scenario? > > I'm referring to those who believed, despite the complete > absence of evidence, that a rogue planet called Nibiru was in > the solar system, tilting the axes of Jupiter and Saturn as it > passed, and appearing as a
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7 years ago
Milo
Aine wrote: > Milo wrote: > > > Aine wrote: > > > > > endofworldbook wrote: > > > > > > > Thought you might like this: > > > > > > > > Top Ten End of the World Songs: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Iron Maiden's When the Wind Blows..
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7 years ago
Milo
endofworldbook wrote: > Milo, > > It sounds like you've made up your mind about what's in my book > already without having even read it. Why are you so intent on > arguing if you're not even sure what you're arguing against? That's why I asked you questions such as in this thread: In that post, I asked, for example, "Does your book analyse and try to understand the roo
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