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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Milo wrote: > > There's a dissonance between what it is supposed to mean and > practice. Just as in Christianity.
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Milo wrote: > As I've mentioned before, I don't believe This discussion isn't about what you believe. Its about societal problems which are involved with large influential institutions. Its not about what Christianty 'can' be when "done right". When you write, "Christianity has failed miserably in > comprehending how a celibate person, dedicated to a life of &
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Milo wrote: > It's good to be tactful! Yeah, when it comes to doctrinal concepts its very difficult to negotiate a conversation if the foundational pillars of the world view don't match. I can recognize an idea similar to karma regarding "sin" but concepts like "original sin" I simply can not accept. Most of my eggs are in the evolution basket. > I understand
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Milo wrote: > Then there is sin forever for those that adopt that belief. I'm > more optimistic. Well as I say, there isn't anywhere for that conversation to go. > It still sounds like a philosophy of anything goes, which is > still twisting the dictionary meaning of the word 'wholesome' > that Crowley used. For me its wholesome because there is a balance in re
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Milo wrote: > Thanks for clarifying what you meant. I thought it sounded odd! > Anyhow I've no problem with the reality that man has fallen > from grace - for me it's no different to saying we're only > human, but for me Christ's redemptive act was not fiction but > reality because without it, I don't see how man can ever find > redemption from sin. Right. I understand the p
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Milo wrote: > I wasn't referring to a Christ that fell from grace, but rather > the Son of God who became human in order to redeem humanity. > Christ was also a mystic teacher, so we can at least agree > there. I wasn't referring to Christ falling from Grace. I said "a messiah based on a fall from grace". Meaning that there was a fall from grace in humanity where
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Milo wrote: > It depends how higher consciousness is defined. I was using the > term in the context of music born out of the qualities related > to love. So yes, I was referring to higher consciousness on the > terrestrial plane and I agree that there are higher dimensions > that "left brain" thinking cannot even begin to comprehend. I > can speak from experien
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Milo wrote: > Music changes the soul. Experiments have shown that sounds > change forms on the molecular level. This is a form of magic, > so yes, there is nothing to fear from magic, as long as magic > is not used for selfish purposes, otherwise it becomes grey, or > if the gift of the spirit is grossly abused, it becomes black > magic. Yeah I can basically agree wit
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Milo wrote: > It's been admitted by Freemasons that the soul is changed. I > imagine they would argue that the initiate has received some > kind of gnosis, but what exactly, the initiate is not told. On > the other hand, some people believe demonic possession takes > place. Well, again, the key words here are "not very". One could argue in this way that bapti
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Milo wrote: I disagree, > part of the work of a master of a lodge is to produce the 'hive > mind', a kind of mind control that ensures members keep in line > and conform. Well, I've never been a mason, but I do know several. I certainly can't confirm that there is any insidious subliminal intentions happening with lodges as a standard practice. My mason friends are certainly hard hea
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Milo wrote: The Kenneth Noye case surpassed anything that groups such as the > Jehovah's Witnesses or the boy scouts have been capable of. It > was a spectacular case of how a whole Masonic Lodge became > corrupt protecting a thief and a murderer. Lots of Christan groups including the Boy Scouts, Jehovahs Witnesses and naturally the Catholic Church have been guilty of covering up paed
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Milo wrote: > There's also the issue of corruption and Masonic loyalties.... Meh, thats the case whenever people organize themselves for any reason at all. Its really neither here nor there that it was Freemasons, or Jehovahs Witnesses, or Boy Scouts, or the Red Cross or Scientology or any of them. Its really up to you yourself in the end. As Poke points out, Freemasonry was an enlightene
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Milo wrote: > You're entitled to your opinion, but I disagree. It's too > obviously a pentagram to be imaginary or coincidental. > Freemason Brent Morris, when questioned about the layout of > Washington DC, acknowledged there was an embedded pentagram in > the layout. Well, I don't shut out the possibility that throughout history there have been high ranking elite groups have t
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Richard Fusniak wrote: > Milo wrote: > > >..... academic Masons some of whom may > > get involved in magick, > > What sort of magick? I could answer just quickly by saying if you had to pick a tradition that would stand to reason based on the masonic imageries, to a certain extent exactly the kind of magick that Poke Runyon is practising in his magical lodge!
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Hey Milo, Milo wrote: > There are three types of Masons (maybe more!): belly Masons who > just like the dinners and company, social climbing Masons with > the furtive handshakes, and academic Masons some of whom may > get involved in magick, but it certainly is a very strange > cult, but each their own. There are definitely folks that choose to practice magick, th
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Milo wrote: > Hi Jared (Sangreal) > > > Their apology: > > > > Hahah! Those were great; thanks for sharing. > Freemasonry is very occult because the rituals are based on > concealed knowledge. I've never heard of Carroll Poke Runyon, > but either he is trying to mislead people and is being > insincere, or he doesn't have much of a cl
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
This talk was given by Carroll Poke Runyon a few years back on his radio show "The Hermetic Hour". Poke Runyon is both a practising magician and a Freemason. Not only is he a practising magician, he is also the founder of his own magical lodge - the Order of the Temple of Astarte. A system based on the book of Solomons magick, the Goetia and the mythology of Canaan among other things.
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Gorgeous
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Mine came from reading the "Sangreal Solidarity" series by William G Grey. I've studied esoteric/hermetic stuff for years, and at that time back in 2004, was becoming more familiar with the I suppose, Egypto idea of there being an esoteric "Royal Blood" symbology. Theosophy seemed to have wiffs of it as well and I was leafing through Isis Unveiled at the time also. The sea par
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Neato
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Nice one!
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Ha! Neat. I'm not a Judas Priest fan, but I'm going to share that with friends. Thanks Bruce! (oh and if you could put a good word in for me for Jimmy Page girl in Lez Zep, I'm pretty sure she'd be down for having my babies at some point... lol ;-)
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Judis Priest those women are stunning...
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Aine wrote: > Hi Jared, > > That is a really neat site. I was looking around it and they do > have some interesting stuff. > > Thanks for the documentary. Will check it out. > Cool! No worries. Glad you liked it. I hope he keeps it up!
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
Hey folks, Just wanted to share this documentary I caught over the weekend. Thought it was quite good and comes from some pretty legit open mindedness and on good authority. For Netflix users out there you can watch it there at the moment. Dr. Amit Goswami, Ph.D, (A guy who's published text books on Quantum Mechanics for schools) addresses, really the central controversy in interpretin
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
brucenyc1 wrote: > I used to dig Mahogany Rush , he was kinda wild with his S.G. > and I had a live album of his . Maybe born-again now ? Yeah Franks a great player with an impressive SG collection! A real sound engineer as well. Like he reminded his nephew and I , "guys they don't call them 'engineers' for nothing" lol > > Bron-Y-Aur is in Wales , I've never been but my
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
brucenyc1 wrote: > All right, here are my distant connections to what is Led > Zeppelin . Born in same hometown as Robert Plant,--Stourbridge > , West Midlands . Uncle had a farm in Kidderminster, not far > from John Bonham's place . > > Spent a day playing guitar and recording with drummer Steve > Gorman, not long after the Black Crowes toured with Jimmy Page > . Recor
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
JPJ also wrote the Ocean and basically In through the out door cause Page was too junked out to do anything
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
brucenyc1 wrote: > That's a great article and exchange between those two . Zep's > music, as all contributed - seemed to come from a place of > instinct and intuition . > > The girls of Lez Zep recorded with Eddie Kramer, analogue with > vintage gear . For sure! Burroughs was more of a 'wizard' than is talked about in most academic circles as well so its an especi
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7 years ago
Sangreal Sea
brucenyc1 wrote: > My favorite aspect of Page's work is his ability to create > atmosphere . Songs such as No Quarter , Friends , When the > Levee Breaks, Kashmir ,Stairway , Battle of Everymore etc --all > exist like worlds unto themselves . His ability to coax perfect > tones for the mood make him an electric wizard . Light and > Shade He was a magician and a musi
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