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7 years ago
Thanos5150
Scott Creighton wrote: > SC: I rather suspect that, if there is any truth to this idea, > the Osiris 'mnemonic image' may have been generated (as the > myth of of Osiris and Isis tells us) with the ancients using > the first 14 pyramids built to represent the 'body of Osiris'. > Christian churches scattered across the world are often > referred to as the 'body of Christ
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
Quote: "This pyramid... is Osiris. This construction... is Osiris" - PT 1657 Instead of meaning that all of the major pyramids are representations of Osiris's strewn body parts, isn't it more likely this line of text is just a simple dedication to the pyramid the particular text was found in? It is referring to the singular, not the plural. And just as simply, like any Christian chu
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
I am trying to hypothesize how either of these events (probably one and the same) may help explain the discrepancy of dating at Giza: Is it possible that the Sphinx and related structures date to around 6,000BC, or at least prior to this time, and were abandoned after the tsunamis caused by the Mt. Etna eruption swelled the Nile as such to effectively flood the Giza plateau? My memory is sha
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
Hello MJT, MJT wrote: > My understanding is that Petrie (a person whom I greatly > admire) went to Egypt in November 1880 as a surveyor not a > geologist, so it is, I feel, misleading to describe him as 'a > veritable Egyptian granite expert'. I don't think one needs to be a geologist to be an expert at knowing the difference between plaster and granite. Petrie I am sure to
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
Hello MJT, MJT wrote: > The following is an extract from John and Morton Edgar's 'The > Great Pyramid Passages and Chambers. Vol 2.' 1924 edition. page > 6. Yes, I have read this, but it is hard to reconcile that Petire of all people, a veritable Egyptian granite expert, would have mistaken granite for plaster. Until a 3rd party comes forward, I would lean towards Petrie's ass
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
MJT wrote: > No. According to Petrie: "The broken end of the upper block, and a chip of granite still remaining cemented to the floor of the passage a little above that, showing that it was probably 24 inches longer than it is now, judging by marks on the passage".
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
Nice post Billy. Very interesting. I'm going to digest it and get back to it.
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
billbaty wrote: > Well, I just picked the words "blast gate" off the top of my > head. I was actually thinking of a fire and/or explosion > barrier. I am not absolutely convinced that this is what the > slabs were used for, they just remind me of a protection > device. Multiple slabs may have been needed because of a > possibility of an extreme blast or fire. I thoug
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
The article does not offer any other conclusion which is obviously to "sell" the opinion of the anthropologists who only offers the Neanderthal solution because of the now older age. This is common practice in that academics draw arbitrary timelines and ascribe artifacts to the species within the timeline though they might be no different than what came before or after. The same can be
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
billbaty wrote: > The portcullis slabs remind me of a blast gate, like they would > lower the slabs for protection and then fire up the grand > gallery. Or perhaps lowering the slabs and firing up the kings > chamber. The areas around the antechamber as well as the kings > chamber and the sarcophagus are all blackened maybe by extreme > heat. Hi Billy, Hmm. That's an
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
Very nice presentation Scott. Billy wrote: "Have you ever noticed the eroded "V" shape in the great step seen in older photos? I have wondered if the portcullis slabs were themselves counterweights that wore it down with use. Perhaps the portcullis slabs as counterweights operated the "pyramid machine" by moving the granite slabs (now wedged permanently at the entrance)
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
Aine wrote: > Nobody's saying that. It just makes it more likely that they > could be. The title of the article is "Neanderthals smarter than previously believed. New dating method shows famous paintings were created at the time of the cavemen, not Homo sapiens". The article does not mention the more likely possibility Cro Magnon arrived earlier and only states and/or im
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
Technology and industry capable of building Gobekli Tepe and its several sister sites does not spring up overnight representing a long period of technological and cultural development not yet found in the area and was certainly not the work of mere "hunters and gatherers". Also given Gobekli Tepe is its most sophisticated at it oldest level declining rapidly with each successive generat
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
Think about what is being said here though: anthropologists are so "sure" that Cro Magnon did not arrive in Europe until roughly 40,000yrs ago that when the cave art is re-dated as being only a few thousand years older than previously thought, namely the one with the youngest minimum date just 300yrs older than Cro Magnon, then the only logical conclusion is that Neanderthal must be res
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
Nuthin? Well, I thought my post was interesting, but I am easily entertained. Hey, look at that! A shiny object.............
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
All good points Jacob. I would add that the KC is also known to have been "exploded" outwards shortly after G1 was sealed requiring repairs. As unlikely as it is grave robbers would have back filled the well shaft, not to mention it is far too small and treacherous to haul off anything of size anyways, it is even more unlikely they would have been kind enough to make repairs to the K
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
Dr. Troglodyte wrote: > While I accept the proposition that the Giza complex > may have been ”laid out to a master plan”, > I have yet to acquiesce with certainty. Alternatively, while I > agree that the topography of the Giza plateau provides > demonstrative evidence of a stone outcrop at the location of > G2, I do not conclude that the excavation of this feature, in
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
Excellent work Dr. So, the West face does in fact correspond exactly to the opposite cliff meaning they were once part of the same hill, or ground level, and what we see now between them is a leveled passage way. Pg 19 has a better representation of the original hill. They say, "The preceding observations lead us to assert that the great pyramids were built on a carved outcrop, using the e
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
The Giza plateau was leveled, so are the base steps from a hill on that spot or from a raised portion left over from the leveling? If I stand on the left of G2 facing G3 on the left there is a "ridge" or trench wall" that corresponds in height with these courses so my thought was these were cut from the same ground level. Do you now if these base steps extend for the entire base?
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
Hello Dr. Troglodyte, You wrote: <That “groove” is a series of “wedge-holes” used in ‘quarrying’ to split stone. So, it would appear they made a mistake and did not split the block there but didn't want to waste it so they used it anyways? The groove only goes down 3/4 of the way. Interesting that we know they had massive stone cutting saws and were able to facet these casing stones per
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
Sonofabiscuit! Are you from the future Dr. Troglodyte? But if you really are a troglodyte as you "claim" then I guess you are from the past. But I digress.....It is interesting that you point this out because, though I see some references to it now, it is generally never mentioned if only the opposite. Here is what National Geographic has to say: "And unlike the other Great Pyram
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
Dr. Troglodyte wrote:> > Khafre (G2), too, has granite casing stones”: Well, holy crap. That is very interesting. This is very important. Most popular literature I have read does not refer to this fact and I even saw these when I was there and did not think they were casing stones as they look more like miscellaneous rubble piled up along the side and there's not many. There's a lot of ru
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
cladking wrote: >I believe it's impossible to build a pyramid > higher than about 160' with ramps. >I've always thought it odd that they'd start right off with a 200' great > pyramid and G3 would be a great start. The original height of G3 was 215' and now stands 204' so by your definition G3 is a "great" pyramid.
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
cladking wrote: > I believe it is confusing to consider any pyramids were built > after G3. Indeed, G3 isn't truly a great pyramid but a hybrid > between the great pyramids and the tiny things that were built > later. I highly disagree. You are hung up on size and what you see today, but G3 is one of the greatest pyramids and a marvel unto itself. The main reason is the red grani
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
> > Hydraulic Pulse Generator: > > Hi Jacob, > All well and good, but what are the other Pyramids at Giza, > Dashur and Saqqura? Something that cannot be ignored is, if G1 > is a hydraulic pulse generator what is the purpose or designed > function of each of the other large pyramids? I am not committing to the GP as a Pulse Generator, but of all the possible explanat
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
Dang it. Hydraulic Pulse Generator:
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
Hydraulic Pulse Generator:
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
cladking wrote: > I used to put a lot more effort into figuring out what it did > or was but have come to believe that this will become apparent > once we figure out how it was built so I now concentrate > strictly on this. Obviously I might be wrong and if someone > figured out what it did it might be nearly irrelevant how it > was built. There are several reasonably good g
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
Sirius7237 wrote: > I would point out that any internal ramp stuctures would not be > found in ruins outside the pyramid but would have remained as > part of the superstructure of the pyramid itself. The ramps > would have been blocked in to form the final pyramid shape and > then finished with casing stones as part of the completed G1 Thanks Sirius7237. This is why I use Meidum a
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7 years ago
Thanos5150
cladking wrote: > Good point. I tend to agree. But discerning the overall > purpose has been very elusive to date. The air shafts > themselves are sufficiently complicate to elude any sinmple > single explanation. (Though I think they were "obviously" > primarily air shafts). Thanks Cladking. Several ideas have been put forward raising the possibility the GP's fun
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