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16 years ago
SomeString
*tucks thread into bed*
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16 years ago
SomeString
hehehe
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16 years ago
SomeString
Why a new thread? This one's just getting warmed up! We've barely used it! :D
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
Your response can really be summarised as: "Oh, get off your high horse SomeString." To be quite honest, nothing I said in my post was about being on a high horse - it was my rather idealistic view of the state of the discussion. My goal, as I said, is to open you to new ideas and uinterpretations. You see it as being a 'high horse', I see it as being my idealistic motivator for thi
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
My purpose is to make clear points of view that you do not understand. Hence the way I constantly chip away at you - Not to 'destroy' your ideas, but to be able to show you more, even, dare I say 'better' ideas. You see, back in the day, people were given stories, and in these stories were encoded a 'way to god'. This came about by the revealing of inner 'mysteries' or 'metphors' if you will.
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
"Your belief that the verses in wquestion are allegorical." Not a 'belief' at all. Just a fact. All original scripture worked on two levels. The first was literal interpretation (the 'everyman' kind of version), and the next in allegorical interpretation (the initiatory/gnostic interpretation). "It depends what the structure is and the type of verbs used." No, it doesn't
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16 years ago
SomeString
"Again, by your last comment "(It's me!)" you are trying to force your opinion." I'm trying to make you laugh. Sorry, I'll try to be less friendly next time, ok? "It is sexism" Hurrah!
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
"But you're basing your views on 'faith' and 'belief', so why don't you re-assess your your belief?" And what views would they be? "I disagree, grammar is of prime importance." In making a coherent sentence, yes. Does the word structure of a metaphor negate it's meaning? no. I could say 'Malcusious is an evil tyrant that lives under the sea' any which way I like; ('there
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
Very true!
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
"This is where we disagree becuse I believe words contain thoughts and ideas, whereas you don't. On that we beg to differ." Yes, we do, but it's not a matter that one can simply say 'I believe this, you believe that, lets look bored' about. You see the written word is the subject of intense matter-of-fact study, and only one of us can be correct. (It's me!) "I agree that the ch
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
"And you are resorting to ad hominem. I just happen to believe in what the Bible teaches, which is that satan is in opposition to God." And that's fair enough, but you say that satan uses gnosticism as a tool (or something like that) to attack God. The thing is that everyone that doesn't have 'faith' in there actually #1 BEING a satan, and #2 Having the agenda you claim that he/she/it
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
At the end of the day it's just a word. The facts are that women were not allowed position in the church. Some (like Tertullian, who I gave as an example earlier) thought that this was grounded on the theological argument of Eve corrupting Adam, and all women being Eve's (Hence the 'evil' tag). Did you know that men even thought that it was the woman's fault for being sexually alluring? Make
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
"If there is any tool that Lucifer could use to twist and disort scriptures in order to attack God, then gnosticism is probably one of the best tools. Using this philosophy you could twist anything in the scriptures!" Sorry to be so blunt, but to start flinging around throwaway ideas like 'lucifer attacking god' is really quite fundamentalist of you, and it's really reflects very badly
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16 years ago
SomeString
To the peep(s?) that answered my post: Simply consider your dishonest evaluations of the situation in afghanistan. That the 'people were happy' at the overthrow of the Taliban is a given, but consider the fact that the people put in charge of afghanistan after the fall of the taliban were warlords that were every bit as bad as the taliban. These are two facts, it's just quite difficult to see
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
"But the passages aren't allegorical. For example Christ says that he is going back to his father.... that is literal. It therefore follows that the helper who he said would come is also literal. That is the problem with gnosticism... it finds allegory where there is none which is why it's a licence for obfuscating true meaning." Gnosticism taught two different teachings in one, almost
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
You deny that women weren't allowed, in fact until only recently, to become priests, or hold position in the RCChurch?
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
Ah, ok... my yahoo account has been a bit fried for awhile now... Can you send to: somestring@hotmail.com ? Thanks!! :)
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
"It seems that gnosticism is a license to interpret any statement any way it wants!" Allegory is a particular way of communicating an idea. Slapping you in the face with a big wet cod just isn't it. "It can't have a deeper meaning becuase Christ used personal terms, such as "he", "him", "the one" and "the helper"." Sorry, but your st
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
"I was talking about the Bible!" So was I ;) "I can't recall the church ever saying that women were evil, not even several centuries ago. What evidence do you have for that please?" Tertullian decreed: "It is not permitted for a woman to speak in the church, nor is it permitted for her to teach, nor to baptise, nor to offer the eucharist, not to claim for herself a
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
"Some passages may seem "dodgy" but when you study them in more detail, explanations can be found!" The oppressive climate of the early church, for example? "I'm not a supporter of Churchianity as you know but in all fairness, the churches do not actually preach that women are evil." No, of course not - they'd never get away with it these days. However in the pas
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
Yeah, I know, it made me chortle when it first started doing it... :D
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
"I'm basing my interpretation of the passages in qusetion on their gramatical make up and I see no indication that the word "spirit" is being used as a noun... it is being used a transitive verb." Maybe it occurs to you that English wasn't the authors first language. Anywho, an 'allegorical' statement isn't neccessarily structured any different from a normal statement. As I
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
Because it's more fun trying to break the GHMB server with waffle! :D
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
Of course not in so many words (yet there are some dodgy passages in the OT). The interpretation of women being literally evil came from the church.
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
Yes. At the end of the day, though, it's the image of women as eggagerated caricatures (Whether they be positive or negative) that's wrong.
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
"No, what Christ was refering to when he spoke of "the spirit of truth" is explained in the context of his previous words, ie, "when that one arrives" and he endorses this meaning with "the helper", "that one", "he", "him", etc. You can't cancel out and ignore "the helper", "that one", "he" and "h
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
"Christ was using the term spirit, not in the sense of a disembodied spirit but an individual who speaks in the spirit of truth. For example, you could say that one could have a mean spirit." The word spirit has not always had the same meaning as we use it today. The part of spirit-like thing that accompanied the body was called the 'soul'. What Christ talks about when referring to a
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
-------- "Hi some, milo From stone age to now (in some cases) the dominant sex has always been man, so the 'him' has always been used to show the strength of the item being discussed.......would christians follow a female god as much as a male?? Its from this that all religions/rulers/kingdoms have had (yes there was a few women too) man as the highest of high and woman either second or in
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
"This means that the person is the spirit of truth." Isn't any definition of a 'spirit' something other than a physical person? Again you seem to be falling victim to oxymorons that only occur when one takes it literally - a 'spirit that is a person' is an impossibility. This kind of language was encoded in scripture for simply the reason that people SHOULD realise oxymorons, and hen
Forum: Global Village
16 years ago
SomeString
"It's quite clear that Christ is not speaking allegorically or symbolically but of an individaul who will have a specific task to fulfil." It's a description of what happens at Gnosis - The coming of the spirit, and a description of what this means.
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