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Thomas Brophy wrote:

> Interesting points cladking,
> Actually I had a laugh when I read your "Even "I think
> therefore, I am" is taken as a working hypothesis rather than
> "Truth" itself. " --I am now reading (and planning to use in a
> course) philosopher Roy Bhaskar's "Reflections on
> Meta-Reality". Bhaskar therein makes a very good case for a
> new philosophy of Reality in which "thinking" is not the
> ultimate ground of being...

I'm not familiar with Bhaskar but just read the Wiki.

This is pretty close to my understanding of the nature of the easiest way to understand my place in the world and nature itself from a personal standpoint. Essentially there's no real alternative to simply assuming that the world is exactly as we percieve it but we must always be on guard against misperception. Even if the assumption is wrong it's of no importance at all because the alternatives result in no gains in understanding the real world of nature or the real world of perception. It behooves us to always remember this particular assumption just as we should try to remember all the axioms and definitions we use to comprehend nature, cognition, and ourselves.

I believe that this kind of thinking will tend to lead to a general understanding of reality and that a generalist will always be more able to use his knowledge all at once than a specialist. It would be possible though to specilize from a genalist standpoint and, no doubt, some have. More to the point though and more on topic is that I believe this is exactly the same understanding and perspective that people had when zep tepi occurred (whatever exactly it was). Indeed, I believe ancient people all thought this way and had very little choice in the matter because language itself was metaphysics. Language arose from nature which was the nouns and verbs. The "gods" were actually aspects of nature, natural phenomena, rather than independent consciousnesses. Because our language is so different the ancient language has been opaque to our understanding.

I believe I understand the ancient writing but in no place is "zep tepi" actually defined or given enough defining characteristics by context to understand its intended meaning. All I have on the specific question is another hypothesis.

Perhaps, I should be looking for some of Roy Bhaskar's writing. Thanks.



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Zep Tepi 316 loveritas 07-Mar-13 11:01
Re: Zep Tepi 173 Poster Boy 08-Mar-13 15:17
Re: Zep Tepi 195 loveritas 08-Mar-13 20:31
Mostly offline next couple of days 195 Thomas Brophy 08-Mar-13 23:57
Re: Mostly offline next couple of days 159 loveritas 09-Mar-13 00:34
Re:the waves of which dashed in powerless fury against its base. 190 Thunderbird 10-Mar-13 20:18
Nice To See You're Back 213 loveritas 12-Mar-13 04:22
Re: Nice To See You're Back 198 Thomas Brophy 16-Mar-13 04:52
GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 174 Dr. Lew Graham 16-Mar-13 14:03
Re: GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 194 Thomas Brophy 16-Mar-13 20:18
High on Ego 171 loveritas 16-Mar-13 21:59
and self righteous arrogance 208 Sirius7237 16-Mar-13 22:18
Re: GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 192 Bobajot 17-Mar-13 02:15
Re: GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 185 Aine 17-Mar-13 22:04
Relying Upon One's Discernment 231 Dr. Lew Graham 18-Mar-13 01:35
Re: Relying Upon One's Discernment 706 cladking 18-Mar-13 20:58
Atrophy of Discernment 208 Dr. Lew Graham 18-Mar-13 21:34
Re: Atrophy of Discernment 231 cladking 18-Mar-13 21:59
A Miracle? 215 Dr. Lew Graham 18-Mar-13 23:42
Accidently hit "quote" instead of post and failed to correct 210 cladking 19-Mar-13 00:20
Miracles? 186 Dr. Lew Graham 19-Mar-13 00:30
Re: A Miracle? 125 Poster Boy 19-Mar-13 00:47
Typo 210 Dr. Lew Graham 19-Mar-13 01:00
Sarcasm? 189 Sirius7237 19-Mar-13 03:04
More Hypocrisy 196 loveritas 19-Mar-13 05:32
Re: Typo 170 Poster Boy 19-Mar-13 03:26
yes, maybe thinking is not ultimate ground of being 174 Thomas Brophy 18-Mar-13 23:03
Re: yes, maybe thinking is not ultimate ground of being 206 cladking 19-Mar-13 02:16
I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 173 Thomas Brophy 18-Mar-13 04:41
Re: I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 197 loveritas 18-Mar-13 06:07
Re: I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 244 Thomas Brophy 18-Mar-13 22:30
Re: I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 215 loveritas 18-Mar-13 22:38
I'll Rephrase the Question 210 loveritas 19-Mar-13 20:42
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 206 Aine 19-Mar-13 21:37
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 201 loveritas 20-Mar-13 11:54
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 207 Thomas Brophy 20-Mar-13 17:47
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 205 Thunderbird 20-Mar-13 18:29
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 188 loveritas 20-Mar-13 21:33
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 192 Spiros 20-Mar-13 22:13
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 216 Laird Scranton 21-Mar-13 16:50
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 234 Spiros 21-Mar-13 19:16
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 212 Audrey 24-Mar-13 04:25
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 187 Thomas Brophy 24-Mar-13 06:10
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 160 loveritas 24-Mar-13 06:54
Starry Night Pro calculation still not clarified 230 Thomas Brophy 29-Mar-13 22:02
Re: Starry Night Pro calculation still not clarified 207 loveritas 30-Mar-13 02:05
Re: What if?...... 176 Thunderbird 30-Mar-13 20:56
Re: What if?...... 190 loveritas 30-Mar-13 23:55
Re: Zawiyet el-Aryan meridian observation shaft/Water clock 343 Thunderbird 31-Mar-13 03:37
Re: Zawiyet el-Aryan meridian observation shaft/Water clock 206 loveritas 31-Mar-13 07:56
Bond of Heaven and Earth 343 loveritas 01-Apr-13 01:25
Djed-raising ropes? 205 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 01:40
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 211 loveritas 01-Apr-13 05:18
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 204 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 06:47
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 212 loveritas 01-Apr-13 06:58
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 203 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 07:05
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 187 loveritas 01-Apr-13 07:11
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 210 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 07:24
Re: Ability....and transitions of time. 200 Thunderbird 01-Apr-13 23:19
Re: Ability....and transitions of time. 181 loveritas 01-Apr-13 23:53
Re: King and Queen Ascending/Descending 245 Thunderbird 02-Apr-13 20:07
Re: King and Queen Ascending/Descending 179 loveritas 02-Apr-13 22:37
Re: Bond of Heaven and Earth 222 Thunderbird 01-Apr-13 03:55
Some basics... 210 Thomas Brophy 31-Mar-13 00:16
Re: Starry Night Pro calculation still not clarified 202 Spiros 30-Mar-13 06:30
Help ask Starry Night 202 Thomas Brophy 31-Mar-13 00:58
Re: Help ask Starry Night 240 Spiros 31-Mar-13 17:58
Starry Night Pro 'fesses up to precession calculation errors 621 Thomas Brophy 02-Apr-13 19:29
Re: Starry Night Pro 'fesses up to precession calculation errors 252 Spiros 02-Apr-13 20:59
Re: Starry Night Pro 'fesses up to precession calculation errors 191 Thomas Brophy 02-Apr-13 21:22
Starry Night Pro precession calculation fix delayed 246 Thomas Brophy 10-May-13 22:39
Re: Starry Night Pro precession calculation fix delayed 215 loveritas 11-May-13 01:22
Re: Starry Night Pro precession calculation fix delayed 201 Spiros 13-May-13 22:10
What is your culminating declination? 196 Thomas Brophy 13-May-13 22:49
Re: What is your culminating declination? 197 Spiros 13-May-13 23:27
Re: What is your culminating declination? 204 Thomas Brophy 14-May-13 00:13
Re: What is your culminating declination? 163 Spiros 19-May-13 01:31
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 258 Thomas Brophy 21-Mar-13 04:20
Einstein Not Necessary 187 loveritas 21-Mar-13 06:37
Memory & Einstein 189 loveritas 24-Mar-13 23:10
Re: Memory & Einstein 206 Thomas Brophy 24-Mar-13 23:43
Re: Zep Tepi 188 Eddie Larry 14-May-13 03:45
Re: Zep Tepi 191 Sirfiroth 15-May-13 02:15
Re: Zep Tepi 176 Eddie Larry 15-May-13 03:02


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