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Thomas Brophy wrote:

> Interesting points cladking,
> Actually I had a laugh when I read your "Even "I think
> therefore, I am" is taken as a working hypothesis rather than
> "Truth" itself. " --I am now reading (and planning to use in a
> course) philosopher Roy Bhaskar's "Reflections on
> Meta-Reality". Bhaskar therein makes a very good case for a
> new philosophy of Reality in which "thinking" is not the
> ultimate ground of being...

I'm not familiar with Bhaskar but just read the Wiki.

This is pretty close to my understanding of the nature of the easiest way to understand my place in the world and nature itself from a personal standpoint. Essentially there's no real alternative to simply assuming that the world is exactly as we percieve it but we must always be on guard against misperception. Even if the assumption is wrong it's of no importance at all because the alternatives result in no gains in understanding the real world of nature or the real world of perception. It behooves us to always remember this particular assumption just as we should try to remember all the axioms and definitions we use to comprehend nature, cognition, and ourselves.

I believe that this kind of thinking will tend to lead to a general understanding of reality and that a generalist will always be more able to use his knowledge all at once than a specialist. It would be possible though to specilize from a genalist standpoint and, no doubt, some have. More to the point though and more on topic is that I believe this is exactly the same understanding and perspective that people had when zep tepi occurred (whatever exactly it was). Indeed, I believe ancient people all thought this way and had very little choice in the matter because language itself was metaphysics. Language arose from nature which was the nouns and verbs. The "gods" were actually aspects of nature, natural phenomena, rather than independent consciousnesses. Because our language is so different the ancient language has been opaque to our understanding.

I believe I understand the ancient writing but in no place is "zep tepi" actually defined or given enough defining characteristics by context to understand its intended meaning. All I have on the specific question is another hypothesis.

Perhaps, I should be looking for some of Roy Bhaskar's writing. Thanks.



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Zep Tepi 349 loveritas 07-Mar-13 11:01
Re: Zep Tepi 198 Poster Boy 08-Mar-13 15:17
Re: Zep Tepi 214 loveritas 08-Mar-13 20:31
Mostly offline next couple of days 216 Thomas Brophy 08-Mar-13 23:57
Re: Mostly offline next couple of days 178 loveritas 09-Mar-13 00:34
Re:the waves of which dashed in powerless fury against its base. 213 Thunderbird 10-Mar-13 20:18
Nice To See You're Back 235 loveritas 12-Mar-13 04:22
Re: Nice To See You're Back 224 Thomas Brophy 16-Mar-13 04:52
GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 195 Dr. Lew Graham 16-Mar-13 14:03
Re: GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 217 Thomas Brophy 16-Mar-13 20:18
High on Ego 190 loveritas 16-Mar-13 21:59
and self righteous arrogance 226 Sirius7237 16-Mar-13 22:18
Re: GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 229 Bobajot 17-Mar-13 02:15
Re: GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 206 Aine 17-Mar-13 22:04
Relying Upon One's Discernment 254 Dr. Lew Graham 18-Mar-13 01:35
Re: Relying Upon One's Discernment 725 cladking 18-Mar-13 20:58
Atrophy of Discernment 238 Dr. Lew Graham 18-Mar-13 21:34
Re: Atrophy of Discernment 249 cladking 18-Mar-13 21:59
A Miracle? 233 Dr. Lew Graham 18-Mar-13 23:42
Accidently hit "quote" instead of post and failed to correct 237 cladking 19-Mar-13 00:20
Miracles? 206 Dr. Lew Graham 19-Mar-13 00:30
Re: A Miracle? 144 Poster Boy 19-Mar-13 00:47
Typo 232 Dr. Lew Graham 19-Mar-13 01:00
Sarcasm? 212 Sirius7237 19-Mar-13 03:04
More Hypocrisy 218 loveritas 19-Mar-13 05:32
Re: Typo 193 Poster Boy 19-Mar-13 03:26
yes, maybe thinking is not ultimate ground of being 191 Thomas Brophy 18-Mar-13 23:03
Re: yes, maybe thinking is not ultimate ground of being 225 cladking 19-Mar-13 02:16
I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 195 Thomas Brophy 18-Mar-13 04:41
Re: I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 218 loveritas 18-Mar-13 06:07
Re: I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 277 Thomas Brophy 18-Mar-13 22:30
Re: I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 251 loveritas 18-Mar-13 22:38
I'll Rephrase the Question 233 loveritas 19-Mar-13 20:42
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 226 Aine 19-Mar-13 21:37
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 220 loveritas 20-Mar-13 11:54
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 230 Thomas Brophy 20-Mar-13 17:47
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 232 Thunderbird 20-Mar-13 18:29
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 210 loveritas 20-Mar-13 21:33
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 213 Spiros 20-Mar-13 22:13
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 236 Laird Scranton 21-Mar-13 16:50
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 260 Spiros 21-Mar-13 19:16
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 245 Audrey 24-Mar-13 04:25
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 209 Thomas Brophy 24-Mar-13 06:10
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 184 loveritas 24-Mar-13 06:54
Starry Night Pro calculation still not clarified 255 Thomas Brophy 29-Mar-13 22:02
Re: Starry Night Pro calculation still not clarified 234 loveritas 30-Mar-13 02:05
Re: What if?...... 196 Thunderbird 30-Mar-13 20:56
Re: What if?...... 208 loveritas 30-Mar-13 23:55
Re: Zawiyet el-Aryan meridian observation shaft/Water clock 394 Thunderbird 31-Mar-13 03:37
Re: Zawiyet el-Aryan meridian observation shaft/Water clock 226 loveritas 31-Mar-13 07:56
Bond of Heaven and Earth 373 loveritas 01-Apr-13 01:25
Djed-raising ropes? 232 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 01:40
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 231 loveritas 01-Apr-13 05:18
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 224 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 06:47
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 236 loveritas 01-Apr-13 06:58
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 223 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 07:05
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 208 loveritas 01-Apr-13 07:11
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 234 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 07:24
Re: Ability....and transitions of time. 221 Thunderbird 01-Apr-13 23:19
Re: Ability....and transitions of time. 201 loveritas 01-Apr-13 23:53
Re: King and Queen Ascending/Descending 267 Thunderbird 02-Apr-13 20:07
Re: King and Queen Ascending/Descending 201 loveritas 02-Apr-13 22:37
Re: Bond of Heaven and Earth 243 Thunderbird 01-Apr-13 03:55
Some basics... 235 Thomas Brophy 31-Mar-13 00:16
Re: Starry Night Pro calculation still not clarified 237 Spiros 30-Mar-13 06:30
Help ask Starry Night 221 Thomas Brophy 31-Mar-13 00:58
Re: Help ask Starry Night 271 Spiros 31-Mar-13 17:58
Starry Night Pro 'fesses up to precession calculation errors 665 Thomas Brophy 02-Apr-13 19:29
Re: Starry Night Pro 'fesses up to precession calculation errors 281 Spiros 02-Apr-13 20:59
Re: Starry Night Pro 'fesses up to precession calculation errors 213 Thomas Brophy 02-Apr-13 21:22
Starry Night Pro precession calculation fix delayed 270 Thomas Brophy 10-May-13 22:39
Re: Starry Night Pro precession calculation fix delayed 234 loveritas 11-May-13 01:22
Re: Starry Night Pro precession calculation fix delayed 230 Spiros 13-May-13 22:10
What is your culminating declination? 220 Thomas Brophy 13-May-13 22:49
Re: What is your culminating declination? 216 Spiros 13-May-13 23:27
Re: What is your culminating declination? 232 Thomas Brophy 14-May-13 00:13
Re: What is your culminating declination? 184 Spiros 19-May-13 01:31
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 293 Thomas Brophy 21-Mar-13 04:20
Einstein Not Necessary 207 loveritas 21-Mar-13 06:37
Memory & Einstein 212 loveritas 24-Mar-13 23:10
Re: Memory & Einstein 233 Thomas Brophy 24-Mar-13 23:43
Re: Zep Tepi 209 Eddie Larry 14-May-13 03:45
Re: Zep Tepi 211 Sirfiroth 15-May-13 02:15
Re: Zep Tepi 194 Eddie Larry 15-May-13 03:02


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