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Thomas Brophy wrote:

> Interesting points cladking,
> Actually I had a laugh when I read your "Even "I think
> therefore, I am" is taken as a working hypothesis rather than
> "Truth" itself. " --I am now reading (and planning to use in a
> course) philosopher Roy Bhaskar's "Reflections on
> Meta-Reality". Bhaskar therein makes a very good case for a
> new philosophy of Reality in which "thinking" is not the
> ultimate ground of being...

I'm not familiar with Bhaskar but just read the Wiki.

This is pretty close to my understanding of the nature of the easiest way to understand my place in the world and nature itself from a personal standpoint. Essentially there's no real alternative to simply assuming that the world is exactly as we percieve it but we must always be on guard against misperception. Even if the assumption is wrong it's of no importance at all because the alternatives result in no gains in understanding the real world of nature or the real world of perception. It behooves us to always remember this particular assumption just as we should try to remember all the axioms and definitions we use to comprehend nature, cognition, and ourselves.

I believe that this kind of thinking will tend to lead to a general understanding of reality and that a generalist will always be more able to use his knowledge all at once than a specialist. It would be possible though to specilize from a genalist standpoint and, no doubt, some have. More to the point though and more on topic is that I believe this is exactly the same understanding and perspective that people had when zep tepi occurred (whatever exactly it was). Indeed, I believe ancient people all thought this way and had very little choice in the matter because language itself was metaphysics. Language arose from nature which was the nouns and verbs. The "gods" were actually aspects of nature, natural phenomena, rather than independent consciousnesses. Because our language is so different the ancient language has been opaque to our understanding.

I believe I understand the ancient writing but in no place is "zep tepi" actually defined or given enough defining characteristics by context to understand its intended meaning. All I have on the specific question is another hypothesis.

Perhaps, I should be looking for some of Roy Bhaskar's writing. Thanks.



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Zep Tepi 363 loveritas 07-Mar-13 11:01
Re: Zep Tepi 210 Poster Boy 08-Mar-13 15:17
Re: Zep Tepi 222 loveritas 08-Mar-13 20:31
Mostly offline next couple of days 234 Thomas Brophy 08-Mar-13 23:57
Re: Mostly offline next couple of days 188 loveritas 09-Mar-13 00:34
Re:the waves of which dashed in powerless fury against its base. 224 Thunderbird 10-Mar-13 20:18
Nice To See You're Back 248 loveritas 12-Mar-13 04:22
Re: Nice To See You're Back 235 Thomas Brophy 16-Mar-13 04:52
GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 208 Dr. Lew Graham 16-Mar-13 14:03
Re: GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 228 Thomas Brophy 16-Mar-13 20:18
High on Ego 198 loveritas 16-Mar-13 21:59
and self righteous arrogance 234 Sirius7237 16-Mar-13 22:18
Re: GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 246 Bobajot 17-Mar-13 02:15
Re: GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 220 Aine 17-Mar-13 22:04
Relying Upon One's Discernment 269 Dr. Lew Graham 18-Mar-13 01:35
Re: Relying Upon One's Discernment 736 cladking 18-Mar-13 20:58
Atrophy of Discernment 247 Dr. Lew Graham 18-Mar-13 21:34
Re: Atrophy of Discernment 261 cladking 18-Mar-13 21:59
A Miracle? 243 Dr. Lew Graham 18-Mar-13 23:42
Accidently hit "quote" instead of post and failed to correct 246 cladking 19-Mar-13 00:20
Miracles? 213 Dr. Lew Graham 19-Mar-13 00:30
Re: A Miracle? 151 Poster Boy 19-Mar-13 00:47
Typo 242 Dr. Lew Graham 19-Mar-13 01:00
Sarcasm? 220 Sirius7237 19-Mar-13 03:04
More Hypocrisy 229 loveritas 19-Mar-13 05:32
Re: Typo 204 Poster Boy 19-Mar-13 03:26
yes, maybe thinking is not ultimate ground of being 200 Thomas Brophy 18-Mar-13 23:03
Re: yes, maybe thinking is not ultimate ground of being 232 cladking 19-Mar-13 02:16
I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 206 Thomas Brophy 18-Mar-13 04:41
Re: I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 230 loveritas 18-Mar-13 06:07
Re: I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 288 Thomas Brophy 18-Mar-13 22:30
Re: I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 266 loveritas 18-Mar-13 22:38
I'll Rephrase the Question 240 loveritas 19-Mar-13 20:42
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 234 Aine 19-Mar-13 21:37
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 229 loveritas 20-Mar-13 11:54
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 241 Thomas Brophy 20-Mar-13 17:47
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 244 Thunderbird 20-Mar-13 18:29
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 224 loveritas 20-Mar-13 21:33
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 224 Spiros 20-Mar-13 22:13
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 246 Laird Scranton 21-Mar-13 16:50
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 268 Spiros 21-Mar-13 19:16
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 259 Audrey 24-Mar-13 04:25
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 219 Thomas Brophy 24-Mar-13 06:10
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 192 loveritas 24-Mar-13 06:54
Starry Night Pro calculation still not clarified 266 Thomas Brophy 29-Mar-13 22:02
Re: Starry Night Pro calculation still not clarified 245 loveritas 30-Mar-13 02:05
Re: What if?...... 206 Thunderbird 30-Mar-13 20:56
Re: What if?...... 217 loveritas 30-Mar-13 23:55
Re: Zawiyet el-Aryan meridian observation shaft/Water clock 413 Thunderbird 31-Mar-13 03:37
Re: Zawiyet el-Aryan meridian observation shaft/Water clock 234 loveritas 31-Mar-13 07:56
Bond of Heaven and Earth 378 loveritas 01-Apr-13 01:25
Djed-raising ropes? 240 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 01:40
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 241 loveritas 01-Apr-13 05:18
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 234 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 06:47
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 256 loveritas 01-Apr-13 06:58
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 231 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 07:05
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 217 loveritas 01-Apr-13 07:11
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 246 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 07:24
Re: Ability....and transitions of time. 229 Thunderbird 01-Apr-13 23:19
Re: Ability....and transitions of time. 211 loveritas 01-Apr-13 23:53
Re: King and Queen Ascending/Descending 279 Thunderbird 02-Apr-13 20:07
Re: King and Queen Ascending/Descending 208 loveritas 02-Apr-13 22:37
Re: Bond of Heaven and Earth 254 Thunderbird 01-Apr-13 03:55
Some basics... 245 Thomas Brophy 31-Mar-13 00:16
Re: Starry Night Pro calculation still not clarified 246 Spiros 30-Mar-13 06:30
Help ask Starry Night 231 Thomas Brophy 31-Mar-13 00:58
Re: Help ask Starry Night 281 Spiros 31-Mar-13 17:58
Starry Night Pro 'fesses up to precession calculation errors 682 Thomas Brophy 02-Apr-13 19:29
Re: Starry Night Pro 'fesses up to precession calculation errors 291 Spiros 02-Apr-13 20:59
Re: Starry Night Pro 'fesses up to precession calculation errors 222 Thomas Brophy 02-Apr-13 21:22
Starry Night Pro precession calculation fix delayed 284 Thomas Brophy 10-May-13 22:39
Re: Starry Night Pro precession calculation fix delayed 245 loveritas 11-May-13 01:22
Re: Starry Night Pro precession calculation fix delayed 237 Spiros 13-May-13 22:10
What is your culminating declination? 229 Thomas Brophy 13-May-13 22:49
Re: What is your culminating declination? 222 Spiros 13-May-13 23:27
Re: What is your culminating declination? 243 Thomas Brophy 14-May-13 00:13
Re: What is your culminating declination? 190 Spiros 19-May-13 01:31
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 310 Thomas Brophy 21-Mar-13 04:20
Einstein Not Necessary 214 loveritas 21-Mar-13 06:37
Memory & Einstein 220 loveritas 24-Mar-13 23:10
Re: Memory & Einstein 242 Thomas Brophy 24-Mar-13 23:43
Re: Zep Tepi 217 Eddie Larry 14-May-13 03:45
Re: Zep Tepi 221 Sirfiroth 15-May-13 02:15
Re: Zep Tepi 201 Eddie Larry 15-May-13 03:02


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