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Thomas Brophy wrote:

> Interesting points cladking,
> Actually I had a laugh when I read your "Even "I think
> therefore, I am" is taken as a working hypothesis rather than
> "Truth" itself. " --I am now reading (and planning to use in a
> course) philosopher Roy Bhaskar's "Reflections on
> Meta-Reality". Bhaskar therein makes a very good case for a
> new philosophy of Reality in which "thinking" is not the
> ultimate ground of being...

I'm not familiar with Bhaskar but just read the Wiki.

This is pretty close to my understanding of the nature of the easiest way to understand my place in the world and nature itself from a personal standpoint. Essentially there's no real alternative to simply assuming that the world is exactly as we percieve it but we must always be on guard against misperception. Even if the assumption is wrong it's of no importance at all because the alternatives result in no gains in understanding the real world of nature or the real world of perception. It behooves us to always remember this particular assumption just as we should try to remember all the axioms and definitions we use to comprehend nature, cognition, and ourselves.

I believe that this kind of thinking will tend to lead to a general understanding of reality and that a generalist will always be more able to use his knowledge all at once than a specialist. It would be possible though to specilize from a genalist standpoint and, no doubt, some have. More to the point though and more on topic is that I believe this is exactly the same understanding and perspective that people had when zep tepi occurred (whatever exactly it was). Indeed, I believe ancient people all thought this way and had very little choice in the matter because language itself was metaphysics. Language arose from nature which was the nouns and verbs. The "gods" were actually aspects of nature, natural phenomena, rather than independent consciousnesses. Because our language is so different the ancient language has been opaque to our understanding.

I believe I understand the ancient writing but in no place is "zep tepi" actually defined or given enough defining characteristics by context to understand its intended meaning. All I have on the specific question is another hypothesis.

Perhaps, I should be looking for some of Roy Bhaskar's writing. Thanks.



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Zep Tepi 335 loveritas 07-Mar-13 11:01
Re: Zep Tepi 185 Poster Boy 08-Mar-13 15:17
Re: Zep Tepi 202 loveritas 08-Mar-13 20:31
Mostly offline next couple of days 205 Thomas Brophy 08-Mar-13 23:57
Re: Mostly offline next couple of days 167 loveritas 09-Mar-13 00:34
Re:the waves of which dashed in powerless fury against its base. 199 Thunderbird 10-Mar-13 20:18
Nice To See You're Back 225 loveritas 12-Mar-13 04:22
Re: Nice To See You're Back 211 Thomas Brophy 16-Mar-13 04:52
GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 182 Dr. Lew Graham 16-Mar-13 14:03
Re: GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 205 Thomas Brophy 16-Mar-13 20:18
High on Ego 179 loveritas 16-Mar-13 21:59
and self righteous arrogance 216 Sirius7237 16-Mar-13 22:18
Re: GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 209 Bobajot 17-Mar-13 02:15
Re: GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 194 Aine 17-Mar-13 22:04
Relying Upon One's Discernment 242 Dr. Lew Graham 18-Mar-13 01:35
Re: Relying Upon One's Discernment 715 cladking 18-Mar-13 20:58
Atrophy of Discernment 224 Dr. Lew Graham 18-Mar-13 21:34
Re: Atrophy of Discernment 239 cladking 18-Mar-13 21:59
A Miracle? 222 Dr. Lew Graham 18-Mar-13 23:42
Accidently hit "quote" instead of post and failed to correct 225 cladking 19-Mar-13 00:20
Miracles? 195 Dr. Lew Graham 19-Mar-13 00:30
Re: A Miracle? 133 Poster Boy 19-Mar-13 00:47
Typo 220 Dr. Lew Graham 19-Mar-13 01:00
Sarcasm? 199 Sirius7237 19-Mar-13 03:04
More Hypocrisy 205 loveritas 19-Mar-13 05:32
Re: Typo 179 Poster Boy 19-Mar-13 03:26
yes, maybe thinking is not ultimate ground of being 182 Thomas Brophy 18-Mar-13 23:03
Re: yes, maybe thinking is not ultimate ground of being 214 cladking 19-Mar-13 02:16
I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 183 Thomas Brophy 18-Mar-13 04:41
Re: I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 205 loveritas 18-Mar-13 06:07
Re: I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 262 Thomas Brophy 18-Mar-13 22:30
Re: I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 230 loveritas 18-Mar-13 22:38
I'll Rephrase the Question 218 loveritas 19-Mar-13 20:42
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 214 Aine 19-Mar-13 21:37
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 208 loveritas 20-Mar-13 11:54
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 216 Thomas Brophy 20-Mar-13 17:47
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 218 Thunderbird 20-Mar-13 18:29
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 198 loveritas 20-Mar-13 21:33
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 202 Spiros 20-Mar-13 22:13
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 225 Laird Scranton 21-Mar-13 16:50
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 245 Spiros 21-Mar-13 19:16
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 225 Audrey 24-Mar-13 04:25
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 197 Thomas Brophy 24-Mar-13 06:10
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 169 loveritas 24-Mar-13 06:54
Starry Night Pro calculation still not clarified 239 Thomas Brophy 29-Mar-13 22:02
Re: Starry Night Pro calculation still not clarified 219 loveritas 30-Mar-13 02:05
Re: What if?...... 185 Thunderbird 30-Mar-13 20:56
Re: What if?...... 198 loveritas 30-Mar-13 23:55
Re: Zawiyet el-Aryan meridian observation shaft/Water clock 367 Thunderbird 31-Mar-13 03:37
Re: Zawiyet el-Aryan meridian observation shaft/Water clock 214 loveritas 31-Mar-13 07:56
Bond of Heaven and Earth 359 loveritas 01-Apr-13 01:25
Djed-raising ropes? 218 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 01:40
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 222 loveritas 01-Apr-13 05:18
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 212 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 06:47
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 222 loveritas 01-Apr-13 06:58
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 211 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 07:05
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 196 loveritas 01-Apr-13 07:11
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 221 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 07:24
Re: Ability....and transitions of time. 209 Thunderbird 01-Apr-13 23:19
Re: Ability....and transitions of time. 189 loveritas 01-Apr-13 23:53
Re: King and Queen Ascending/Descending 252 Thunderbird 02-Apr-13 20:07
Re: King and Queen Ascending/Descending 188 loveritas 02-Apr-13 22:37
Re: Bond of Heaven and Earth 230 Thunderbird 01-Apr-13 03:55
Some basics... 222 Thomas Brophy 31-Mar-13 00:16
Re: Starry Night Pro calculation still not clarified 218 Spiros 30-Mar-13 06:30
Help ask Starry Night 210 Thomas Brophy 31-Mar-13 00:58
Re: Help ask Starry Night 255 Spiros 31-Mar-13 17:58
Starry Night Pro 'fesses up to precession calculation errors 645 Thomas Brophy 02-Apr-13 19:29
Re: Starry Night Pro 'fesses up to precession calculation errors 262 Spiros 02-Apr-13 20:59
Re: Starry Night Pro 'fesses up to precession calculation errors 198 Thomas Brophy 02-Apr-13 21:22
Starry Night Pro precession calculation fix delayed 256 Thomas Brophy 10-May-13 22:39
Re: Starry Night Pro precession calculation fix delayed 223 loveritas 11-May-13 01:22
Re: Starry Night Pro precession calculation fix delayed 207 Spiros 13-May-13 22:10
What is your culminating declination? 206 Thomas Brophy 13-May-13 22:49
Re: What is your culminating declination? 204 Spiros 13-May-13 23:27
Re: What is your culminating declination? 217 Thomas Brophy 14-May-13 00:13
Re: What is your culminating declination? 169 Spiros 19-May-13 01:31
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 272 Thomas Brophy 21-Mar-13 04:20
Einstein Not Necessary 195 loveritas 21-Mar-13 06:37
Memory & Einstein 199 loveritas 24-Mar-13 23:10
Re: Memory & Einstein 217 Thomas Brophy 24-Mar-13 23:43
Re: Zep Tepi 196 Eddie Larry 14-May-13 03:45
Re: Zep Tepi 201 Sirfiroth 15-May-13 02:15
Re: Zep Tepi 183 Eddie Larry 15-May-13 03:02


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